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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 10:00 PM
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Unemployment benefits expected to be reinstated with $34 billion bill
Source: The Hill

After a six-week wait, unemployment benefits are expected to be retroactively reinstated next week for more than 2.5 million Americans who have been out of work for at least six months.

The Senate is expected to vote Tuesday afternoon on a stand-alone $34 billion bill that will provide those extended benefits of up to 99 weeks through November.

Funding for the benefits was cut off June 2 when Senate Republicans launched a successful filibuster, arguing that not paying for the bill would add to the growing debt.

Democrats will get the vote they need -- the bill has been short the 60th vote since the death of Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) -- when Carte Goodwin is sworn in Tuesday as Byrd's interim replacement.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/801-economy/10939...
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jxnmsdemguy65 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 10:12 PM
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1. My understanding is that this is for Tier 4 only.
Those of us who are at Tier 5 (99ers) are SOL - shit out of luck.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 10:20 PM
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3. What is Tier 4?
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 11:27 PM
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9. There are 5 levels of coverage depending on the number of weeks unemployed.
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dencol Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 10:39 PM
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4. I'm sorry.
And further extensions aren't even really being discussed, despite Dems controlling the government. Unforgivable.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:44 PM
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18. They can't.
If they say that future extensions will be necessary, they should plan for them.

If they plan for them, they're not emergency spending measures; that means they go through the usual legislative procedure. That means they're covered by pay-go. That runs into their self-claimed fiscal responsibility and complies what the repubs said they wanted this time.

If they plan for them, it means that they're planning on unemployment still being very high after a summer of high stimulus spending.

They should anticipate future extensions in order to reduce stress and show their compassion. But they won't because there's an election and, well, in this economy we all have to sacrifice.
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SILVER__FOX52 Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 10:51 PM
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5. I get so sad, when I think of the ( the 99er' s ) ............
Edited on Sat Jul-17-10 10:53 PM by SILVER__FOX52
I have lived a moment in my life, where, I was jobless, homeless and without food. It was the most tragic, sad times of my life. The fear, the loneliness and the emptiness, that I felt, can not even begin to be described. You feel stripped of human, dignity, vulnerable and are subject to attack by the most vile of people, and I'm not talking about other poor people. People with money take advantage of the homeless, all the time. I have a college degree and I am an atheist and the worst times for me, was when I had to sit in church and listen to their, ignorant trash, just, so I could eat. I never felt more violated.

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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 11:06 PM
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8. That's my understanding, and I don't understand it.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 10:12 PM
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2. Hope it happens ASAP!
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 10:52 PM
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6. don't Capitalists know you don't get poverty for free either ?
even Caesar understood this.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 11:01 PM
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7. thank god
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:17 AM
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10. my friend has been on unemployment for
Edited on Sun Jul-18-10 12:17 AM by DesertFlower
a year and 4 months. he's been extended until the end of summer, but that won't be 99 weeks. so maybe he'll get another extension?

he was making $63,000 a year and is willing to take a job that pays as little as $28,000 a year.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:30 AM
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11. Unemployment benefits should be paid until someone finds a job . . . period!!
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 01:52 AM
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13. I agree.
Thanks to the grand-scale gambling and profiteering of the banks and wall-street firms our economy is decimated. But the people who caused this damage got government money to pad their pockets and put them back on their feet, richer than they were before.

All of the people who are out of work who have paid for their grand profiteering deserve just as much government help. The people of this nation deserve to be assured of their survival at least as much as any corporation.

If our government is going to make the decision to bail out this mess, and they have, then they should keep bailing out the people most in need until they are able to stand on their feet. That means creating millions of jobs (not just a few thousand temporary jobs and lying about the importance of it) and forcing companies to make more jobs available with any public benefits they receive (instead of being able to hoarding our tax money as private profit). It means extending unemployment insurance as long at it takes, and expanding public assistance.

Offering generous help primarily to the wealthy, and then ensuring that only their help to the wealthy has no strings attached is heartless. Damn it, it's Republican! It's what THEY stand for, not what WE stand for!

Giving banks money to renegotiate and forgive mortgages, and then letting the banks get away with failing to renegotiate or forgive any is damned near criminally negligent. What is the difference between offering relief desperate people can't get, and offering no relief at all? The effect is the same either way! All because the government is willing trust the banks, and won't put any oversight or reforms in place, and isn't willing to trust people to even a fraction of that same extent.

Our government insists that "we the people" need to be inspected and investigated and watched to withing a hair's breath of death before we can be trusted with any help. But the banks can be trusted to crash the economy again and again and again. :grr:
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 05:56 AM
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15. Don't forget those that lost a job because it was sent out of the USA

That too has taken a toll on our good paying jobs. Then you got Wal-mart etc that don't pay a living wage. I owe my soul to the company store.

K&R!

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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:48 AM
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12. Doesn't receiving these additional benefits also depend
Edited on Sun Jul-18-10 12:48 AM by juajen
on the state you live in? For instance, Louisiana has an low unemployment rate. I am not sure exactly what it is because of my "senior" memory, but could somebody elucidate on this for me. Unemployed is unemployed. To me it is not fair to exclude the unemployed who happen to live in an oil rich state where a lot of work is offshore. We still have a high number, just not as much as other states. I really don't understand this, and wonder how many other states are excluded.
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 05:28 AM
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14. Some benefits do.
After finishing the Tiers of federal aid, states can trigger onto emergency benefits (EB), which also are funded by the federal government but pay considerably less than the federal Tiers (EUC). It depends on whether the state has approved EB, and whether it has reached a certain unemployment rate (6 percent or 8 percent, not sure; the link below can tell you for sure).

Here's a link that explains everything better than I just did. Wonderful website that is updated continuously:
http://www.unemployedworkers.org/sites/unemployedworker...
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 06:58 AM
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16. But the 99ers are not covered. How many of them are there in
our jobless recovery? I understand there are over a million of them. One million people have just been thrown under the bus in this country and bank CEOs got to use our tax dollars to pay themselves billion dollar bonuses.

What a dysfunctional society the RepubliCONS (with the passive assistance of Dems) have created.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 09:35 AM
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17. I hope it passes
my husband will run out soon. He left the state to find work. I hope something comes through soon. He prefers the work, he makes more money than on unemployment and when he works, money goes into his health and welfare fund as well as his pension. He is a journeyman electrician. He is in TN, he says there are two guys from our local are already working in Chattanooga. The pay rate is $10 less an hour than what his local union is--but it is work and on a job that should last longer than two months --which is all that was coming up here at home. My family lives in Nashville which is not far from there, they moved there about 15 years ago.

We are thinking of relocating to that area as NY has only been keeping him employed half the year while taxes and costs climb to unsustainable levels. I will really miss my home. I love it here. I don't really want to leave.
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