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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 10:50 AM
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Independent Voters Favor GOP in 2010 Election Tracking
Source: Gallup

Prefer Republican candidate to Democrat by an average of 45% to 35%
by Jeffrey M. Jones

PRINCETON, NJ -- By an average 10 percentage-point margin since March, 45% to 35%, independent registered voters have consistently preferred the Republican to the Democrat when asked which congressional candidate they would vote for in their district. Independents' preference for Republicans has been generally consistent over this time, with the gap in favor of Republicans increasing slightly since March, from 8 to 12 points.


Currently about one in five independent registered voters are undecided or prefer a candidate from outside the two major parties, suggesting the potential for movement in these numbers between now and Election Day.

These data are based on monthly averages of Gallup Daily tracking, including interviews with more than 6,000 registered voters each month.

Read more: http://www.gallup.com/poll/141086/Independent-Voters-Fa...



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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 10:52 AM
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1. People are so fucking stupid. nt
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:44 AM
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19. as is any progressive who stays home
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-02-10 03:14 PM
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37. Any voter who stays home.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 10:53 AM
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2. Generic ballot is one thing. Sharron Angle is another
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 10:59 AM
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5. I try to think like you, then I remember who they elected as president 2001-2008
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:09 AM
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8. He masked his views -- "I am a uniter" "no nation building" etc etc
He ran as a moderate Republican.

(plus I don't think he got elected in 2004. 2001 we know he didn't)
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DesertDiamond Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:25 AM
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11. Bush was never elected. He lost in both elections.
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Bidault Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:33 AM
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18. How's Sharron Angle doing in the polls among independents?
Worse than 45%-35%?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 12:14 PM
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22. The tea-bag independents probably love her.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 12:19 PM
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24. can you imagine a sharon angle as a senator. can you imagine
that.
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skyounkin Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 01:47 PM
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27. Just look at bachman...
and double the crazy.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 02:25 PM
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29. Your example is better than mine above. No doubt.
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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 10:58 AM
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3. Unless Gallup has begun calling cell numbers, they are to be suspect. Not just the "youth" anymore,
but I know hundreds of people up to and including 65yos that no longer even have landlines. Not to mention that even for those that still have landlines, and cell phones, are often not at their landlines when Gallup calls, or because of caller ID simply don't answer calls from unknown entities.

I'm not sure there is a legitimate way anymore to get accurate polling by phone.
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DumpDavisHogg Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 10:58 AM
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4. Then they're not really independents
The GOP is a cult. They don't believe in independence.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 10:59 AM
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6. Well, Surprise Surprise Surprise!
Edited on Thu Jul-01-10 11:00 AM by rocktivity
Unimpressed/buyer's remorseful/apathetic independents are why we lost Dem seats in Massachusetts, Virginia, and New Jersey.

It's not so much that Obama and the Dems haven't delivered change. It's that they don't seem to be interested in standing up for themselves and us. We need Reid, Pelosi, and Kaine getting in their faces the way Boehner, Cantor, and Steele get in ours. Turning the other cheek may work with the base, but it costs us the fringe.

:headbang:
rocktivity
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:26 AM
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12. If you can find Kaine
Give him the message.

He's harder to find then Waldo or Carmen San Diego combined. :D
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:30 AM
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17. Who??!!!
:evilgrin:
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 02:37 PM
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30. Obama and Rahm told Dean to go and hired Kaine for the job.
Edited on Thu Jul-01-10 02:38 PM by w4rma
And Kaine, my former governor, is almost invisible. Dean pulled a heck of a lot of weight to help get Obama elected and they tossed him out like yesterday's garbage.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 03:54 PM
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31. I dont think that there supposed unwillingness to stand up
as you claim is the problem here is the real problem.
Imo the problems are as follows.
Alot of independents (who already tend to lean more to the right than they do to the left) are unhappy with things like the many bailouts (even though they started that under the republicans in the first place)then there was the healthcare reform bill and yet another problem is alot of independents are independent in name only and are easily led by a certain media *cough* fox news *cough*
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-02-10 03:20 PM
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39. Go over to Freeperland and they say the same thing about
the Repugs not "standing up to the Dems."
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:06 AM
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7. The important point to take is that undecided is around 20%. nt
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:19 AM
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9. I believe that "feeble-minded" is an appropriate descriptive phrase
for these poor unfortunates.
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:23 AM
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10. Americans in general and independents in particular
respect and admire the use of power. Obama and the democrats failed to use the power given to them to effect real change and came across as wusses. Wusses are not favored by the electorate.

If Obama had ruthlessly pursued Health Care Reform by starting at single payer and then settling for a public option, while twisting the tails of Ben Nelson and Joe Lieberfock, he would have been seen as a strong leader and these polls would be tracking differently. Instead, he started with a barely reasonable reform and then settled for very little, thus appearing weak.
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skyounkin Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 01:49 PM
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28. Bingo.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 04:34 PM
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32. You nailed it.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 05:01 PM
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34. That is true, without question.
Edited on Thu Jul-01-10 05:04 PM by Dawson Leery
They do not have the desire to research the issues.
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humblebum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:27 AM
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13. By November jobs will be the number 1 issue, and I fear if
things don't turn around soon, those figures may prove out.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 12:15 PM
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23. Because Republicans are so good at creating jobs?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-02-10 03:20 PM
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38. Because, right or wrong, people blame incumbents,
especially if incumbents are not especially good at messaging, etc.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:30 AM
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14. These so called "independents" are morons who take no time to research issues. That said Democrats a
their own worst enemy. They suck at PR, no matter how easily an issue could be framed. Not to mention they could have gone for the throat after the '08 elections instead the president and so called "moderates" decided to appease and legitimize these fucking troglodytes. And there we have it like the zombies that they are they'll keep coming back again and again dragging the rest of us with them.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 04:44 PM
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33. "sucking" at pr is easy when you have a complicit media as well.
It sure doesn't help.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 05:48 PM
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35. It's easy when one refuses to hammer their opponents in the same manner they have
been doing it for years. The easy part is that you don't even need to make shit up about them. It's time to take the word conservative and drag it through the mud the same way St Ronnie and them did to the word liberal.

The media is not keeping them from doing this. And if you go on TV and a so called reporter tries to get cute. Simply ask them why they're carrying water for right wingers. Put them on the defensive for a change. Hell it worked for them for years with all that liberal media bullshit. It's about time these guys start applying some jujitsu.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-02-10 03:22 PM
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40. Being good at pr includes your message about media. Hell, Republians still
Edited on Fri Jul-02-10 03:34 PM by No Elephants
claim the media is liberal--and people believe them because they say it so often.

When was the last time you heard a Democratic spokesperson speak in public or on radio or tv?

Now, when was the last time you heard a Democratic spokesperson explain in public or on radio or tv that four or five corporations control most mainstream media--and their boards tend to be made up of Republicans?

Now, when was the last time you heard a Republican spokesperson speaking in public or on radio or tv attack the credibility or bias of mainstream media?
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waronbanks Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:30 AM
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15. America gets the government it deserves.
Go head and put the same party who brought the economy down and started illegal wars and tortured and ruined the whole Southern coastline back in charge.

I dont even fucking care anymore. This nation is so fucked.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:30 AM
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16. Short Attention Span Nation
What's that, you say? Obama and the Dems haven't saved the world yet? Well, then, let's vote for the party that fscked everything up in the first place!! :SARCASM:
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 12:07 PM
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20. They are stupid
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 12:11 PM
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21. generically speaking. However when asked about supporting "batshit crazy" the numbers dropped off
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 12:27 PM
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25. Independents and undecideds are the stupidest group of voters around
Edited on Thu Jul-01-10 12:28 PM by Downtown Hound
They have no real philosophy, they just go where the wind blows. People like them are who put Bush in power in the first place.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-02-10 10:31 AM
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36. to me all you have to do is look at the news. I watch all of the cable
news channels and cnn is doing a hatchet job on president obama with the gulf oil spill. they had jindel(hell he looked like a dem) on talking about how slow the federal government is, how his admin submits request to the fed gov and how they have to deal with all of the paper work and how slow they are to respond. then cooper goes right into a piece about the feds allowing bp to use too much dispersent and the feds aren't doing anything about it. hell I'm an obama supporter and I was pissed off just looking at the news reports, so imagine how someone that doesn't follow politics is thinking.

there was no one from the obama admin on any of these shows to respond, they are looking like the bush admin. I'm amazed that they are not on top of this.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 12:42 PM
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26. Guess they want MORE of deregulation for corporations-Tax cuts for the rich-Wars for profit
Edited on Thu Jul-01-10 12:45 PM by GreenTea
to continue and more corner-cutting corporations privatizing every thing for their own greedy profit.
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