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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:23 PM
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BP sued for burning turtles alive
Source: Sydney Morning Herald

Animal welfare groups are suing BP for burning endangered sea turtles and are asking a US court to stop the oil giant's "controlled burns" on the Gulf of Mexico spill.

The lawsuit filed on Wednesday says BP is violating the Endangered Species Act and other laws with their "controlled burns" in the Gulf of Mexico.

The complainants, Animal Welfare Institute (AWI), Centre for Biological Diversity, Turtle Island Restoration Network and Animal Legal Defence Fund, have asked the federal court for a temporary restraining order to stop all burning activities "until ... mechanisms are implemented that will prevent any additional sea turtles from being burned alive."

. . .

The groups said BP should remove all turtles from the oil gathered for a controlled burn before it is set on fire.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/bp-sued-...



Glad to see this.

The news site also has a video up entitled BP boss: we're not here to save the world .

I say you don't have to save it, just stop killing it.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:34 PM
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1. BP decision makers deserve to be burned alive..
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 07:58 AM
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8. ..................
:thumbsup:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:41 PM
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2. I've been giving money to ALDF for more than a decade.
I'm happy to see them on the job. :-) If you want to give to animal rights, these lawyers do more behind the scenes than more flamboyant groups.
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 10:27 PM
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3. Where is our feckless Environmental Protection Agency in all of this?
The same EPA that recently gave the approval for Mountaintop Removal. The same EPA that allows the ongoing use of the toxic dispersant.

Is there even a reason for the EPA to exist anymore?
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 10:32 PM
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4. Yes there is but it needs massive cleaning out.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 10:51 PM
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5. If the EPA was involved in this

The EPA would rule that it is okay for BP to burn turtles alive.

The EPA should have their salaries paid directly from Chamber of Commerce coffers.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 07:20 AM
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6. They don't give a feck. (n/t)
:hide:
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 02:00 PM
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15. Where have you gone Lisa Jackson
our nation turns it's lonely eyes at you
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CJvR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 07:29 AM
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7. Huh?
What are turtles doing in the oil, they can dive cant they? I thought they had more brains than their idiot cousins the dinosaurs.

If it is practical sure save as many turtles as possible, but if it becomes a choice between letting thousands of barrels of oil drift around the gulf and poison and contaminate everything and burning turtles...

Sometimes there are no good options - only various degrees of bad.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 08:49 AM
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9. What are turtles doing in the oil??????
That one takes the bloody cake.


You couldn't be more transparent if you tried, friend.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 09:13 AM
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10. And you are on the planet no?
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CJvR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 01:37 PM
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13. Well...
You need a high concentration to make it burn so they have to collect it first to get that concentration. Sea turtles are hardly as slow as their landliving relatives so they should be able to dodge the sweeps, I doubt there is a bottom in them.
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 08:26 PM
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22. WTH are you suggesting? There weren't any turtles being burned alive?
That the turtles wanted to be burned alive?

That someone 'planted' the turtles?

What kind of a asinine point are you trying to make?


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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 10:13 AM
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11. If you don't know what the turtles are doing in the oil
then you've got less brains than they do.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 01:39 PM
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14. I believe they need to breathe
:wtf:
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CJvR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 02:09 PM
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16. So does dolphins.
I dont think there is a bottom in the fire booms used so the wildlife should be able to escape.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 02:20 PM
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18. you are really good at hiding your genius colors
that's for sure.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 02:09 PM
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17. That's about one of the dumbest things I've ever read, Seriously.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 07:57 PM
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20. I thought the same about people.
Edited on Thu Jul-01-10 08:00 PM by Catherina
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 12:22 AM
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 02:47 AM
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26. Welcome to DU!
It's not really a matter of moles, it's more about the problem of many people having incredibly different perspectives.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 02:45 AM
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25. Assume a drag boom, gathering up an acre of heavy top material.
That drag boom will gather oil, turtles, random plastic, etc.

If you think reptiles are smarter than... reptiles, I suggest you re-visit your education.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 09:20 PM
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29. I can't believe this. n/t
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 10:19 AM
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12. Excellent news! I first heard about this on NPR last week. I'm so glad my local
npr radio station covers this.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 03:47 PM
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19. temporary restraining order to stop all burning activities
I sure hope this happens!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 08:01 PM
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21. They can't sue BP enough for the misery it caused. n/t
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Merchant Marine Donating Member (650 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 02:33 AM
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24. So instead of coming forward with a solution they just get an injunction?
A court order halting operations in the gulf will be terribly disruptive.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 03:24 PM
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ToddWorkman Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 03:29 PM
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28. OIL IS BURRIED UNDER THE BEACHES - VIDEO PROOF
What about when the turles start to nest, digging into the sand to find globs of tar that are burried under the sand. I have heard that the clean up crews are only cleaning what is visible. This video shows just how serious the oil problem is here in the Florida Panhandle. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAQPr83SgKQ
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