Indian professionals to oppose UK cap

[OhioChick]

Source: Economic Times of India

27 Jun 2010, 1901 hrs IST,PTI

LONDON: An influential group representing professionals from India and other non-European Union countries will challenge the temporary annual cap of 24,100 to be announced by Home secretary Theresa May on Monday. .

Amit Kapadia, director of Highly Skilled Migrant Programme (HSMP) Forum that fought a successful legal challenge against immigration rules, said the government's move to impose an "illogical" cap will be opposed.

"Any such cap will affect Indian professionals because most non-European Union migrants to the UK come from India. But we will oppose and lobby against any illogical number or cap that the government may seek to impose," he told media.

Placing the cap at 24,100 between now and April 2011 means that British employers will not be able to employ any Indian and other non-EU professionals once the limit is reached.

Indians have been among the largest group of professionals recruited in the IT, medicine, education and services sector every year.


Read more: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/services/travel/visa-power/Non-EU-Immigration-Indian-professionals-to-oppose-UK-cap/articleshow/6098584.cms

[conspirator]

1. The UK is already pretty fucked up in terms of jobs and salaries

These indian professionals think they will come here to make a lot of money. They will be disappointed.
The UK is reaching third world salary levels.

[cosmicone]

6. So it is okay to put a cap

solely on non-EU immigrants? Isn't that racial discrimination?

[dipsydoodle]

10. No its not racial discrimination

The EU effectively has no borders in this respect. I think you may find that India is not in the EU.

[cosmicone]

14. Racial discrimination disguised under geographic constraints

is still what it is.

UK is barely in EU -- it is not a member of Schengen states, not a member of Eurozone and its monetary policy is not governed by European Central Bank.

This discrimination is manifestly racial.

[dipsydoodle]

23. I meant with right to work

which you conveniently missed. Odd you should miss out the key issue here.

Given that Australia, Canada and New Zealand would fall under the same rules on this instance as India where's the racial discrimination ?

You need to get a life.

[cosmicone]

29. How many Australians, Canadians and New Zealanders are

applying under the HSMWP and how many are affected?

You forget that Aussies, Canadians and New Zealanders don't need a visa to enter the UK. They enter as visitors, get jobs and then apply for adjustment of status -- a luxury not available to people from poor countries.

The US has a visa waiver program and there are several brits working in California who came under the visa waiver program and then got an adjustment in status -- again, something that is not available to people from Mexico.

[Nihil]

25. That's rich coming from you ...

If it had been a Pakistani complaining about the "cap" then
you'd have been the first reply supporting the British position ...

:eyes:

[cosmicone]

28. You don't know that ....

I have nothing against Pakistani professionals wanting to emigrate to the UK. Just because I detest Pakistan's military/terror apparatus doesn't mean I am against the people. In fact, I believe the military ambitions, jealousy and hatred which has consumed Pakistani generals has worked against the poor Pakistani people, many of whom are extremely bright, creative and educated.

[ChromeFoundry]

30. Dude.....

You're always calling for "the annihilation of Pakistan." Do a search and maybe you can find a post or two that hasn't yet been deleted.

[cosmicone]

33. Balkanization yes .. Annhilation .. no. n/t

[OhioChick]

35. Sure you did....

I remember it vividly, on this thread: (your post was deleted as well as the posters that responded to you on your comment of "annihilation")

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=4369097

[cosmicone]

36. How convenient! Using a deleted thread to prove something nonexistent! n/t

[OhioChick]

37. Yay!

:woohoo:

[ChromeFoundry]

38. Oh F'n please!

Quit being such a whiner and face up to the fact that YOU have anger issues. You attack Pakistan and it's people every chance you get. You bash the US for any humanitarian attempts to helping the people of that region. You fault the Brits for everything that doesn't work in India's favor. Your use of broad-brushed statements against all things Pakistani is more than tiresome.

The world will be at peace when there is no more Pakistan
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3637435&mesg_id=3638451

The best strategy is to starve Pakistan by denying any aid whatsoever.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3818603&mesg_id=3821977

The noose is tightening around Pakistan and pretty soon, everyone will be out to destroy that illegitimate terrorist nation.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3635962&mesg_id=3637549

We should also stop all aid to Pakistan to make sure this illegitimate country, created by the nefarious brits ceases to exist!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4098818&mesg_id=4099310

Don't forget that Pakistan lives on hatred of India
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3764712&mesg_id=3766135

Rape is a common weapon used by Pakistanis.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3764712&mesg_id=3766463

The sooner Pakistan realizes that India is the regional superpower and it has to learn to live withing that sphere of influence, Pakistan will be a happy place indeed.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3764712&mesg_id=3767017

Now tell me... how can anyone respect the thoughts of an individual that spews that much hatred on a consistent basis? All the while, ornamenting this spew of shit with the Om symbol. I have no problem with reading facts, I just cannot find any between your hate speak.

[OhioChick]

39. Thanks, Chrome

Speaks volumes.

[cosmicone]

40. Where do you see "annihilate" in there?

Balkanizing Pakistan into smaller countries is in the world's and the local people's interest. The "state" of Pakistan has not served either well and balkanizing it is not tantamount to annihilating.

For the record, I harbor neither hatred nor ill-will towards the people of Pakistan. That doesn't mean that the Pakistani military, ISI and state sponsored terrorism should not be eliminated.

[SocialistLez]

2. They would be better off staying in India. NT

[cosmicone]

7. Perhaps the brits should have thought of this

before colonizing and looting the world of its resources.

If the brits had not looted India for 200+ years, they wouldn't have this problem today.

[pattmarty]

12. And we are following right in their footsteps, hence the cause of a.........

.........lot of our "Muslim" problem.

[SemperEadem]

3. what condition are UK schools in that they are so overdependent

upon India to provide competent IT workers in their own country?

Is the school system so dismal that no one is smart enough
to complete certification in IT, or is it that charming
accent that's got them so mesmerized?

[avaistheone1]

4. It is not about the condition of UK schools.

It is about UK corporations getting cheaper labor from India, undermining UK workers.

The same thing is done in the US to undermine US workers when HB1 workers are brought here to replace American workers.

[SocialistLez]

11. +1 NT

[pattmarty]

13. Try taking a look around the Country you are living in for the answer.........

.....to your question. Actually, I think your question IS the answer.

[dipsydoodle]

5. He obviously speaks english

but has yet to grasp our colloquial use of the word "tough".

[cosmicone]

8. Yes, "tough"

a. invade other countries and colonize them
b. loot them of their resources
c. leave them when the looting is over, granting "independence"
d. partition them illegally and arbitrarily so they will never rise
e. then say "tough"

[dipsydoodle]

9. Right of entry was ended years ago.

.

Tough.

[cosmicone]

15. This is not about right to entry.

Perhaps Britain should return all the money looted from India (some £18,685,000,000 corrected for inflation) and return all the objects in British museums and Tower of London to India. The resulting money will help Indian professionals to stay in India.

Perhaps all the European countries should do it. Spain can return funds to Mexico and South America, the Dutch to Indonesia, the French to Africa and Indochina etc.

[Bert]

17. I got it

In other words you think we owe you. F*** off.

[cosmicone]

18. Yes. Do you deny that Europeans looted the world? n/t

[Vincent441]

19. yes

[cosmicone]

20. You obviously need education. n/t

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[whopis01]

31. wow. n/t

[DakotaBlue75]

22. What?

Ouch.

[hayu_lol]

24. With our own jobless rate...

we should be capping H1-Bs at 10.

We need to get our own people back to work.

The UK is facing the same problem.

[OhioChick]

26. I agree with you.....

All countries "should" be taking care of their own citizens, first.

India is.

Expatriate executives making way for local hires

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/News_By_Industry/Jobs/Expatriate_executives_making_way_for_local_hires/articleshow/4039529.cms

[The2ndWheel]

27. The struggle continues

A global economy with regional governments. It's one or the other. Trying to have both isn't going to work.

Corporations, as opposed to governments, are global now. Even though corporations should not be stronger than a centralized, monopolistic government, they are, because we live in a world of regional, fractured governments. So corporations are able to play each government against the other.

If we're going to have a global economy, then we're going to need a global governing body. As in, no more "India", "Britain", "America", "China", etc.

[pettypace]

32. India comprises 17% of the world's population

The British should have introduced birth control during the 300 year occupation for chrisakes :rofl:

[GlennWRECK]

34. Reverse AA

disgusting, really.