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Ed Barrow Donating Member (585 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 05:45 PM
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Italian priests' secret mistresses ask pope to scrap celibacy rule
Source: The Guardian

Dozens of Italian women who have had relationships with Roman Catholic priests or lay monks have endorsed an open letter to the pope that calls for the abolition of the celibacy rule. The letter, thought by one signatory to be unprecedented, argues that a priest "needs to live with his fellow human beings, experience feelings, love and be loved".

It also pleads for understanding of those who "live out in secrecy those few moments the priest manages to grant and experience on a daily basis the doubts, fears and insecurities of our men".

The issue was put back on the Vatican's agenda in March when one of Pope Benedict's senior advisers, Cardinal Christoph Schnborn, the archbishop of Vienna, said the abolition of the celibacy rule might curb sex abuse by priests, a suggestion he hastily withdrew after Benedict spoke up for "the principle of holy celibacy".

The authors of the letter said they decided to come into the open after hearing his retort, which they said was an affirmation of "the holiness of something that is not holy" but a man-made rule. There are many instances of married priests in the early centuries of Christianity. Today, priests who follow the eastern Catholic rites can be married, as can those who married before converting to Roman Catholicism from Anglicanism.


Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/27/italian-pri...
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 06:25 PM
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1. Catholic priests having sex with WOMEN???
That's a switch. :sarcasm:
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 06:43 PM
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3. It sure blows the streotype
Not that it will do any good.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 06:28 PM
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2. That's just wrong on so many levels.
:crazy:
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 06:45 PM
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5. why do you think it's wrong?
it seems healthy.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 06:46 PM
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6. What is? The sex? The women? Or the celibacy?
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 06:44 PM
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4. Cardinal Christoph Schnborn spoke the obvious truth
too bad he felt the need to withdraw his statement...
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 07:27 AM
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12. Cardinal Christoph Schnborn is toast
He is now on the Holy Roman Shit List.

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GETPLANING Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 06:56 PM
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7. Mary wants money
The idea of Catholic celibacy is especially foolish when you realize the reason behind it. Before the middle ages it was allowable for Catholic priests to have multiple wives and mistresses. But with concerns for protecting Church property from inheritance Pope Pelagius I made new priests agree offspring could not inherit Church property. Pope Gregory then declared all sons of priests illegitimate. Daughters could not inherit anyway in medieval society. The unspoken benefit to the Church was that men without families had no heirs, and their own property was often given to the Church.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 01:38 PM
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15. "Mary Wants Money" ???
Sounds like a personal issue.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 08:01 PM
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8. Maybe the Catholic Church, clergy and laity entire, should meditate for seven years on
the Song of Songs and why it's in the canon
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 02:35 AM
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9. What would Father Ralph deBricassart say??
The one who got seduced in The Thorn Birds and found out what he'd been missing.

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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 04:28 AM
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10. Pope back to priests- "get an altar boy like you are supposed to"
:spank:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 06:08 AM
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11. The mistress is very well-spoken
for a 12 year old.

:evilgrin:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 07:47 AM
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13. Wow - they really got Republicon Family Pharisee Values down
Republicons & Catholic Priests all doing the hypocrisy thingy massively.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:49 AM
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14. lay monks. nt
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