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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 04:22 AM
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Despite Obama’s Moratorium, Drilling Projects Move Ahead
Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — In the days since President Obama announced a moratorium on permits for drilling new offshore oil wells and a halt to a controversial type of environmental waiver that was given to the Deepwater Horizon rig, at least seven new permits for various types of drilling and five environmental waivers have been granted, according to records.

The records also indicate that since the April 20 explosion on the rig, federal regulators have granted at least 19 environmental waivers for gulf drilling projects and at least 17 drilling permits, most of which were for types of work like that on the Deepwater Horizon shortly before it exploded, pouring a ceaseless current of oil into the Gulf of Mexico.

Asked about the permits and waivers, officials at the Department of the Interior and the Minerals Management Service, which regulates drilling, pointed to public statements by Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, reiterating that the agency had no intention of stopping all new oil and gas production in the gulf.

Department of the Interior officials said in a statement that the moratorium was meant only to halt permits for the drilling of new wells. It was not meant to stop permits for new work on existing drilling projects like the Deepwater Horizon.

(snip)

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/24/us/24moratorium.html?...
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 04:32 AM
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1. K&R!
:hi:
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 04:41 AM
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2. and people wonder why we think Obama just doesn't care ...
Edited on Mon May-24-10 05:28 AM by ima_sinnic
As long as Salazar is employed by the U.S. government, the duplicity continues unabated.
"Drill baby drill" is apparently now and always will be official policy.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 09:22 PM
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73. Drill Baby Drill
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 05:20 AM
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3. This is unfortunate news.
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madchick44 Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 12:05 AM
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76. Do we have a renegade government being run by Rham?
Who is really in charge?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 05:24 AM
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4. All the "changes" is the window dressing. Behind the scenes
the game remains the same.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:42 AM
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10. seriously -- who is running things?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 09:06 AM
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13. In my opinion:
A group of largely anonymous billionaires.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:00 AM
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22. Bingo! We have a winner!
Running both parties.
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icee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 09:48 AM
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18. Not Obama. No one pays attention to him anymore. You could
take a lifelike poster of him and stick it in the ground and get the same results.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:02 AM
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24. That's unfortunately the all too glaring question raised by facts laid out in the article
No matter how one spins it- this does not sound good:

While Interior Department officials have said certain new drilling procedures on existing wells can proceed, Mr. Salazar, when pressed to explain why new drilling was being allowed, testified on May 18 that “there is no deep-water well in the O.C.S. that has been spudded — that means started — after April 20,” referring to the gulf’s outer continental shelf.

However, Newfield Exploration Company has confirmed that it began drilling a deep-water well in 2,095 feet of water after April 20. Records indicate that Newfield was issued a permit on May 11 to initiate a sidetrack drill, with a required spud date of May 10. A sidetrack is a secondary wellbore drilled away from the original hole.


and

Even before the Deepwater Horizon disaster, the use of environmental waivers was a source of concern. In September 2009, the Government Accountability Office released a report concluding that the waivers were being illegally granted to onshore drilling projects.

This month, the Interior Department announced plans to restrict the use of the waivers onshore, though not offshore. It also began a joint investigation of the offshore waiver process with the Council on Environmental Quality, an environmental arm of the White House.

The investigation, however, is likely to take months, and in the meantime the waivers are continuing to be issued. There is also a 60-day statute of limitations on contesting the waivers, which reduces the chances that they will be reversed if problems are found with the projects or the Obama administration’s review finds fault in the exemption process.

At least three lawsuits to strike down the waivers have been filed by environmental groups this month. The lawsuits argue that the waivers are overly broad and that they undermine the spirit of laws like the National Environmental Policy Act and the Endangered Species Act, which forbid drilling projects from moving forward unless they produce detailed environmental studies about minimizing potential risks.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 09:16 PM
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70. environmental waivers are what the nation runs on with BigOil in charge
Edited on Mon May-24-10 09:17 PM by wordpix
Let's get real. THAT's who is running this country.

Salazar should be FIRED IMMEDIATELY. Fuckass
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 09:15 PM
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69. Big Oil, international corporatists. US of A is lost, along with Gulf Coast
:cry:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:05 AM
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5. Well, doesn't he look effective.
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karmkay Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:08 AM
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6. effective?
How about honest?
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robinblue Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:05 AM
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26. ah, it is just that chess game you know.
:puke:
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 05:25 PM
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53. Maybe some thought "chess" was French for "transparent clothing"
I think Obama is a good chap, probably he just doesn't want to get a hole in his head the minute he shows actual leadership.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:10 AM
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7. In other words, business as usual.
We don't need no stinkin' wetlands. We don't need no stinkin' fish. We don't care about the stinkin' birds. We love money.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:37 AM
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8. Obama's "moratorium" is ignored, EPA's orders are ignored
who's really in charge?
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:30 PM
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45. "Who's really in charge"
Edited on Mon May-24-10 12:51 PM by glitch
perfect question as we return to the streets. And calling all freeway bloggers...

edit: "who's in charge" would also be a good chant response to "usa, usa"
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 09:18 PM
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71. BIG OIL INTERNATIONAL CORPORATISTS. END OF SUBJECT
Get the picture. No one else is running the show
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waronbanks Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:37 AM
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9. Do we need any more proof?
Is it not now crystal clear that our government is nothing but a corporate controlled bunch of incompetents? Sorry folks but this is the final nail in the "obama os super smart" coffin. Obama clearly is in over his head...way over his head. His handling of this (and really every major issue he has had to deal with) is simply pathetic and really just incompetent. Forget ideology, incompetence is now our greatest enemy. we are being run by a bunch of dumb asses whose only concern is to keep their corporate donors happy and get reelected. THATS IT. Personally I think its time to panic...WE ARE SCREWED.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 08:09 AM
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11. apparently he is nothing but their figurehead
their little puppet on a string.
we are truly leaderless.
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icee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 09:50 AM
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20. This was the deal he made to become President.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 11:18 AM
Response to Reply #20
36. Yes and because all he really cared about WAS becoming president.
The first black president and his place in history. Truly sickening. :puke:
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icee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 11:46 AM
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43. That is the hidden text that is not really so hidden anymore. I'm
surprised he's not on a box of Wheaties.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 09:08 AM
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14. Yep
We are screwed.

Welcome to DU. Glad to have you on board. :toast:
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 09:32 AM
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16. WELCOME TO DU... I've Been Here A LONG Time! I Leave, I Come Back
and LEAVE again! I leave because of sheer FRUSTRATION and as one who stated above... PANIC because I feel HOPELESS!!

Will the masses ever revolt again? I no longer think so! At least the masses who feel as I do!

Okay, now others can respond as to HOW I need to get involved "locally" and how I must keep on working! The usual words that are really nothing more than words!

I HAVE BEEN IN THE TRENCHES and worked very, very hard to be an involved citizen who hasn't just looked on without putting my boots on the ground!

These days I'm having difficulty putting one foot in front of the other!!!!

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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 09:33 AM
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17. Whenever I say stuff like that, my posts get deleted. But you're right...Obama is the
very picture of a useless, empty suit. I wish the Democratic primaries were tomorrow.
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mikita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 09:49 AM
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19. please....
Obama was "supposed" to be the guy, the answer, the hope. If he's not, it's proof the problem is not the man, it's the SYSTEM.
A Democratic primary tomorrow, next week, next month, or next year won't fix anything.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:31 AM
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31. salguine, I Share Your Feelings... We'll See If I've Violated The Rules
soon enough I'm sure!! Obviously I've gotten more exasperated as times goes by, but I don't KNOW what to do!!

I'm headed out the door real soon to trek up to the beach! Not sure how I'm going to feel, not sure how many truly understand how many Floridians feel immense HURT! I KNOW this is going to impact almost everyone, but having lived right on the Gulf for over 30 years it seems like some sort of RAPE!

Best word I can come up with at this moment, but sure there are many more! The sun is out, it's HOT and the water still isn't roiling in oily! At least I haven't seen it yet!!

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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:46 AM
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35. So many feel this way
that I wonder what the parties will use to drive us to the polls in the fall. republicans already have a lead with all their hate mongering. But I wonder if "At least we're not bush" will be enough to motivate the millions that put Obama in office the first time. I think the republicans will be a little more successful because their followers show more ignorance and willingness to believe lies. Many Democrats are smarter and know when they've been played and lied to.

Of course they will trot out the supreme court, but we've seen how Obama would handle that - move the court a little more right each time. If the republicans screw up and nominate another geezer and hick slut, maybe we will be scared into voting against them, but I'm having a hard time finding anything I will have a chance to vote for instead of vote against. Not very motivating.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #17
84. Yeah, I've seen the "vanishing criticism" illness at work here.
Even had a post or two deleted.

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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #9
52. John Pilger says it best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXL998q7skI

Kind of long, but well worth a listen. Lays out what we're really up against.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 08:14 AM
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12. well, its a good thing we are supposed to leave Obama alone and trust BP
otherwise we might have caught this sort of thing earlier, if we had not been forced into learned helplessness.

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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 09:13 AM
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15. Transparency? YES
I think one thing Obama's Presidency has exposed to many in the country is the fact that the Congress and Senate NEVER has run our Nation, corporations run us. I think people are finally awakening to this fact after decades and decades of suppression from most of the public. Us on the Left have been correct all along.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:13 AM
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27. I think Obama is even surprised by this fact...
I think he thought we actually did live in a democracy and now realizes who really runs the country.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:27 AM
Response to Reply #27
30. If that's true,
he must have slept through his term in the Senate.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 11:23 AM
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37. +1
:thumbsup: Funny how it's never Obama's fault. Guess the buck doesn't stop at his desk either. Why'd he even bother running, in the first place? :argh:
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 11:37 AM
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40. Oh I'm not saying it's anyone's fault...
I'm just saying that sometimes he seems like even he is surprised by the limited powers of our Govt over corporations. I'll blame the entire political system before I'll blame one man for all this mess. The problem is the buck doesn't stop on anyone's desk, ever, because the buck can't be stopped. The buck has morphed into a giant threatening superpower that can inflict more harm on us than we can on it. Sure we can scold corps and point fingers but they can give us a huge giant eff you and collapse our economy and cause major gas shortages, causing us to come to a standstill. What a tangled web we weaved. My suggestion: Nationalize anything of extreme importance to the future and prosperity of our country.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 03:07 PM
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46. "Nationalize anything of extreme importance to the future and prosperity of our country"
That may be the only way we will survive as a country and as a species.

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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:47 PM
Response to Reply #40
75. you speak truth.
and it's not a pleasant thing.



I feel nauseous.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 11:44 AM
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42. Yes, his whole 2 yrs in the senate...
Must have given him huge insight into the hidden powers that be up top. Remember, we elected him because of his lack of experience i.e. The common man, not (so much) a Washington insider. Ironically thats how the founding fathers wanted it to be, 'politician' wasn't supposed to be a career, you were supposed to get elected, put in your 2 cents, then eventually go back to your job of being a lawyer, blacksmith, etc.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 05:37 PM
Response to Reply #42
55. I am torn between thinking exactly what you just said...
... and then reviewing things like his votes for extending the patriot act and giving immunity to the telcos.

His willingness to be labeled as a pragmatist, also leads to my confusion in trying to frame/understand Obama. If he is not willing to believe anything himself, I don't believe I should give my undying benefit of the doubt.

He seems like a very nice guy, and working for his campaign I got to see a truly inspirational person from some of the internal media materials we got access. That is why the disappointment brewing seems to be rather sour for those who actually cared or wanted to believe there was a real chance to stop being cynical for once. Which is, I think, the boat I found myself by the 08 elections. That and the fact, I truly wanted to prove my old man wrong that this time around there would be an actual difference. But as they say in the old world, the devil knows more because he is old that for being the devil ;-)

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robinblue Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 08:03 PM
Response to Reply #30
61. He was mainly running for office most of the time.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #61
62. Imagine if us poor folk could get the same deal politicians get...
... and spend half of our time interviewing for better positions at a competitor, on the company's dime.

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robinblue Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 08:36 PM
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63. a pink slip would come fast.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 09:59 AM
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21. Holy shit! I knew it! Those fuckers! Yes we are truly fucked.
Done. Toast. I feel civil unrest coming next.
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Ticonderoga Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:02 AM
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23. It's really no big surprise
I mean Obama's a "looking forward" kind of non leader you know. I certainly am disappointed that this guy was nominated by the MSM.
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robinblue Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:03 AM
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25. “The moratorium does not even cover the dangerous drilling that caused the problem .............
Looks like a government bureaucracy not knowing what the other hand is doing.



And yet, the federal Occupational Safety and Health Administration has classified some of the drilling types that have been allowed to continue as being as hazardous as new well drilling. Federal records also indicate that there have been at least three major accidents involving spills, leaks or explosions on rigs in the gulf since 2002 caused by the drilling procedures still being permitted.

“The moratorium does not even cover the dangerous drilling that caused the problem in the first place,” said Daniel J. Rohlf, a law professor at Lewis & Clark Law School, adding he was not certain that the Interior Department was capable of carrying out the needed reforms.

The moratorium has created inconsistencies and confusion.

While Interior Department officials have said certain new drilling procedures on existing wells can proceed, Mr. Salazar, when pressed to explain why new drilling was being allowed, testified on May 18 that “there is no deep-water well in the O.C.S. that has been spudded — that means started — after April 20,” referring to the gulf’s outer continental shelf.

However, Newfield Exploration Company has confirmed that it began drilling a deep-water well in 2,095 feet of water after April 20. Records indicate that Newfield was issued a permit on May 11 to initiate a sidetrack drill, with a required spud date of May 10. A sidetrack is a secondary wellbore drilled away from the original hole.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:47 AM
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78. Sidetrack: not a new well.
There's confusion all right, in that folks who want all oil well work to stop aren't being appeased, therefore *any* oil well work is mis-characterized as if a new well was being drilled.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 01:52 PM
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82. you blame government BUREAUCRACY? How about the corruption of MMS by years of GOP control?
Why do you claim 'bureaucracy' as the culprit here? That sounds like a distracting statement that a Newt Gingrich or Sarah Palin demagogue would make to protect their fascist ideology of deregulation from the scrutiny it would deserve for this disaster...and the financial corruption....and the mining industry MURDERS.
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:13 AM
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28. The reality is
we are competing with China for oil. That may be why Obama stated that we have to foreign oil independent. China needs oil anywhere they can get it and has the money. The Mid East oil countries don't need the U.S. any more. We need to pursue alternative energy like we did the space program. Ironically, China may come up with the answer sooner than the U.S. will.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #28
33. True.
Edited on Mon May-24-10 10:38 AM by dgibby
The other reality is that the world is running out of accessible oil.

Face it: we have killed many people, waged wars, overthrown governments,all in the pursuit of oil, gas, and other natural resources. We will continue to do so.

The difference is that now the people in Big Oil's crosshairs are us.

Every living thing on this planet is expendable if it's in the way, everything.

WE.ARE.SCREWED, and we have no govt to protect us because it is bought and paid for by corporations.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 11:29 AM
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39. The short term reality is that demand is down & is a surprise to the oil companies
I was hearing a news story on my local liberal talk radio station last week about how the oil companies have been caught by surprise by seeing demand down at the time of year they usually see it rise. Kind of putting a crimp in their gouge the public all summer and blame it on them operations. So, a moratorium in the short term here isn't going to affect the situation much. The piece also mentioned the rise in demand in China they were expecting has not been what they thought it would be.
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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:18 AM
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29. What a way with words our politico's have.
I guess it is up to us to figure out what 'moratorium' means.

I thought it meant 'stop and reassess'. Guess not. Got to go find Webster's.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:36 AM
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34. And Pick Up A Thesaurus Too! I ADMIT Words Are Obviously Being
construed differently from my definition!!!
:shrug:
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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 12:07 PM
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44. moratorium..........
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 10:35 AM
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32. Yes its a game I SAY this but Actions say differently
Obama appointed Salazar
he is doing his bidding
and Obama is doing BP's bidding

What it gets down to
is America is owned by the Oil companies

they could poison thousands and Kill thousands
and this government won't lift a finger to stop them

it has been 33 days of killling and NOTHING has been done

PLEASE ARREST BP"S CEOS
ARREST them for murder
of the OCEAN

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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 11:28 AM
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38. Health Care reform with no single payer..... Big Pharma still proteced..no re-import
Wall Street reform that still allows Credit Default Swaps.. No Glass-Steegal.....

NAFTA goes on day after day... jobs go to China...Soldiers still dying in Afghanistan with no clear-cut goal...

Can't shut the oil off... too busy finger pointing.. Coast Guard turned into Big Oil private police...

Hillary off to the Mideast and China again.. making threats (eerrr..I mean .."Diplomacy")

I see a pattern here...

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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 11:40 AM
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41. This whole thing makes me angry and sick to my stomach.
We have to get rid of these people.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 03:53 PM
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47. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, Swampy.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 03:55 PM
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48. Thanks
I posted this in GD, but it has been largely ignored and unrec'ed.

When the oil arrives in other states, maybe they will give a shit and stop trying to win inane political points.

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 05:25 PM
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54. My prayer is that EVERYONE support Food and Water Watch
and Ken Abbott in their suit to SHUT ATLANTIS DOWN NOW!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/37199423#371994...

My FANTASY is seeing M$M coverage of MILLIONS of Americans converging on Washington to DEMAND IT.

:hug:
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 05:46 PM
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56. NAAA DUUU!!!
:hug: We are so fucked here in New Orleans and S. Louisiana. :cry:

I am determined to go down with the ship, but who knows, I may end up in Köln someday. ;)

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 06:29 PM
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57. I wish that day were TODAY!
:cry: :loveya: :cry:
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 09:02 PM
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68. thanks for this, think I'll join the lawsuit or at least Food & WAter Watch, especially
since I just discovered NRDC, TPL et al. are "partners" with BP.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 04:06 PM
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49. Are they even inspecting the existing wells and rigs?
The Atlantis rig mentioned on 60 Minutes, for example? The one where very few technical drawings have even been inspected, and yet the rig is already BUILT! I wish I could pull that off. I can't even install a modular school room without stamped drawings!
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 04:15 PM
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50. It does seem that the permitting process works well for large corporations
In other words, they get them by hook or crook, while you, me, and the average American has to jump through hoops only to be denied a permit to build an addition to a home or shed in the back yard.

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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 04:17 PM
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51. I had to have one to build a fucking FENCE!
Cheerist, we are in one fucking huge mess. I'm sorry Swamp Rat. I don't know what to do.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:51 PM
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58. This is unacceptable!
Obama needs to fire some folks and now. If he doesn't we will all have to assume that he is not sincere about dealing with this issue.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:59 PM
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60. Starting with Ken Salazar and Thad Allen, who appear to be working for BP, not the U.S. Government.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 08:51 PM
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66. Why TF is that ass Salazar still in? O needs to get control, this is worse than Katrina
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 09:24 PM
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74. The left wing will sit at home this Nov
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 07:55 PM
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59. I don't know how a waiver can be environmentally friendly.
All these permits probably represent thousands of votes that'll drift away from Obama because the change the voters wanted was neglected.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 08:45 PM
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64. If the moratorium was only to halt permits for new wells, this is completely expected.
What we need is a new moratorium on all waivers now.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 08:50 PM
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65. First, Salazar needs to be fired, 2nd, Obama had better get control of BigOil
in the US NOW; otherwise, he is looking like just another puppet controlled by BigOil puppetmasters.

This BP Halliburton spill is turning out to be Obama's Katrina and he is looking completely impotent. Goodbye, Obama, I had great hopes for you but your "fierce urgency of now" from the campaign just doesn't translate in your presidency. You will not get a second term unless you get control NOW.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 08:56 PM
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67. If you're going to say no, say "NO" and stick to it.

This moratorium seems to have more holes than a sieve.

Disgusted and saddened.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-24-10 09:20 PM
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72. Steven Chu on Rachel live now speaking on the Blowout
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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 01:27 AM
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77. Obama's Presidency, Obama's Responsibility
Obama's.....lies? It's only ok if you are obama (IOOKIYAO)
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 02:15 AM
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79. Get on it PRESIDENT Obama! He makes it look like they own him - until he, one, tells BP to follow
his damned orders during a national crisis, and two, stops all momentum for off shore drilling then how could we seriously consider him anything more than just another politician?

I so want him to kick ass as MY president, but the admin's actions scream moderate/conservative on several issues. :(
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 04:10 AM
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80. show us you're in charge, Obama, and FIRE SALAZAR & enforce yr fake "moratorium"
--as long as Salazar is not fired, Obama is complicit with destruction of the planet.

oh, and who was the genius who appointed Salazar in the first place?
and real lefties "resigned" long ago -- remember Van Jones?
If I were him, I'd consider myself lucky to no longer be associated with this corrupt administration of BP/Haliburton puppets.
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Jubal-Waters Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-10 04:20 AM
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81. maybe...but i dont know
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-10 03:52 PM
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83. Gee. He lied again. What a surprise.
NT!

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