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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 09:38 PM
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Wall Street lobbyists braced for defeat
Source: Financial Times

A vocal group of trade unionists will descend on K Street, Washington's fabled home of lobbyists, today to protest outside the offices of the US capital's most prominent lobbying groups.

As months of congressional horse trading over financial regulation come to a head this week, Stephen Lerner, head of the banking reform group at the Service Employees International Union, is counting on 2,000 demonstators from 20 states to "lobby the lobbyists" and express anger over their work for Wall Street.

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But the big picture is that a strong new consumer protection regulator and a move to force over-the-counter derivatives through clearing houses and onto electronic exchanges are set to be included in law in the face of a multi-million dollar lobbying effort from banks and the US Chamber of Commerce.

Neither seemed likely at the end of last year when the received wisdom was that the Senate would eventually pass a watered down version of the House bill to placate moderate Democrats and draw the support of Republicans.

Read more: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/26e7400a-614c-11df-9bf0-00144feab49a.html



Interesting that the Financial Times describes the passage of much needed financial reform as a "defeat."
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 09:40 PM
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1. Defeat is so much nicer than what they deserve.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 11:47 PM
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4. indeed n/t
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 10:20 PM
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2. Defeat? If only!
Sadly, they have been almost completely victorious. :(


The drama of financial regulatory reform is, to a considerable degree, playing right into the industry’s hands.

(snip)

So the result is that we’ve had proposals come in late in the game that are crowd-pleasing but either ineffective or ill thought out, and that works to the industry’s benefit (they can beat them back, and the existence of a flawed proposal that is taking up legislative and press bandwidth makes it harder for other, better conceived measures to move forward).

One example of the ineffective sort is the so-called Volcker rule, to require depositaries to exit the proprietary trading business. On paper, this is a good idea, but the initial Volcker definition was to distinguish trades executed with end customer versus those that were not, which is not a helpful distinction (bond king Salomon Brothers did a tremendous amount of speculation in its regular trading books, long before there were separate prop desks). Although the language is still in play, banking expert Josh Rosner has said, via e-mail, “the Volker rule has holes large enough to drive 4 Mack Trucks through, side by side.”

By contrast, Blanche Lincoln’s proposal, to force banks to get out of the derivatives business (and the climbdown, to have those businesses separately capitalized), is misguided. The problem here is she and the media have fallen for a master stroke by the industry, that of lumping in credit default swaps with “derivatives”. CDS are highly problematic; they have almost no legitimate uses and come with considerable costs (hugely bad incentives). Moreover, the plans underway will not tame them much. They cannot be margined adequately on a contract by contract basis (any sufficient provision for jump to default risk would render the contract uneconomic and kill the product, which is an unacceptable outcome, so it will continue to be inadequately margined). The best remedy would be to regulate it like insurance (which is what it is) but no one is willing to change directions now.

Plain vanilla swaps, like simple interest rate and foreign exchange swaps are not problematic and customer pricing is pretty transparent. And the banks themselves use these products in large volumes to hedge their own exposures. The flaw in the Lincoln plan is that any derivative business running on an independently financed balance sheet would be unlikely to be large enough to handle the hedging needs of the banks themselves.

Via e-mail, Josh Rosner supplied a much better idea for how to handle banks’ derivatives books:

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/05/you-say-you-are-a-market-maker-great-act-like-one.html">read more...
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 02:01 AM
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5. I Know! The U.S. Chamber of Commerce Is Sooo Stoopid!
Edited on Mon May-17-10 02:02 AM by TomCADem
They are so dumb! They spend millions of dollars fighting legislation that is a complete handout. It is mindboggling. Can you imagine if they hired liberals who really knew how to make money for them? But no. They hire idiots who oppose fight these handouts tooth and nail. Its like you want to hand them a twenty dollar bill and they refuse to take it.

Or, maybe its some vast super tenth dimentional conspiracy! They say no, but they really want you to say yes. Thus, when they push for expanded off-shore oil drilling, it means that they are actually pro-environment, since they oppose it!

:tinfoilhat:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 02:20 AM
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6. When Elizabeth Warren praises this bill, I may buy your sarcasm.
Rich folks oppose things that take even a tiny bit away from them because they don't want to lose anything and also bc they don't want to open the door even a little. Is that a surprise?
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 02:49 AM
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9. +1000 nt
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 05:20 AM
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10. Any issue they oppose, spend millions to defeat and then lose the vote, is secretly a win for them.
They just toy with us. They pretend to demagogue the opposition, spend millions to defeat reform, and be mad when they lose the vote, but they are so much smarter than the progressives in congress and, of course, those of us out in the sticks. Those poor congressional progressives. They think they accomplish something useful with their "reforms", but they are just not smart enough to compete with the Chamber types who win even when they "lose". ;)

At least we can be happy that with Obama the Chamber is winning by losing. With Bush they won by winning. I'm hoping that is progress. ;) Maybe one day we can see the Chamber lose by losing. At least we're headed in the right direction.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 10:06 PM
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12. Exactly! Extreme Far Right Is The New Left! Unions Are The New Corporations!
Edited on Mon May-17-10 10:21 PM by TomCADem
Look at health care reform, which was strongly supported by unions and senior citizens groups like the AARP. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce was spending millions opposing it, thus this means they actually support it, and it passed.

STOOPID!

If the Chamber spent no money, it would have passed even faster. But the morons who run the U.S. Chamber could not figure that out.

This is why the Court's ruling in the Citizens United case is not that bad. Because corporations are so dumb, that they will use their money to oppose pro-corporate legislation like health care reform, financial reform and environmental regulations.

This is why DUers are starting to wake up and stand with the U.S. Chamber and against fake progressive organizations like unions and the Sierra Club. The tea baggers are the progressives of tommorrow. The NAACP is the good ol'boys club of today, which is why they support Elena Kagan, dontcha know?

And, Rush Limbaugh's claim about eco-terrorists? I think many DUers are starting to wake up to the truth of his words! He is actually progressive, because those eco-terrorists are really just pro-corporate stooges, since the U.S. Chamber of Commerce opposes cap and trade, which means that they secretly support it!!!

:freak:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 02:21 AM
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7. +1
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-16-10 11:43 PM
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3. Defeet? OK, I thought it was a hand for theft, but I'm OK with taking their feet.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 02:24 AM
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8. It is a defeat for Wall Street banksters and their lobbyists
It is a win for consumers.

If the Democrats have managed to stay together and really defeat the lobbyists, then I will be amazed.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-17-10 07:09 AM
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11. it's time to hold de feet to the fire!
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