Arab-American Group wants Bush campaign ad changed

[DinahMoeHum]

Oh, boy!! Did * pull another boner with a campaign ad or what!!


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20040312/pl_nm/campaign_bush_arabs_dc&e=4

(snip)
"The new Bush ad plays into a negative stereotype and it's damaging," said James Zogby, president of the Washington-based Arab American Institute and a member of the Democratic party's National Committee.

"It makes a reference to terror and terrorists while flashing a picture of a Middle Eastern-appearing male," the institute's site said.

. . .

"This ad undercuts the message the president issued to the nation after September 11 and negatively stereotypes Arabs," Zogby is quoted as saying on the site. "By using an unidentifiable, but Arab-looking young male while the word 'terrorist' is heard, the message is unmistakable and regrettable. It can only create fear and suspicion and should be changed immediately."
(snip)



:eyes: :dunce:

[XNASA]

1. They're just playing to their base.

Nobody who considers voting for w* would think of this as wrong.

[yardwork]

30. I read that a large percentage of American Muslims supported W in 2000.

So, just like his proposed constitutional amendment, this effort to play to his supposed base just alienated a whole bunch of his supporters.

W can't win with just his base. He has to have the support of swing voters and swing states.

This ad campaign is totally off-base. I'm so pleased!

[Guaranteed]

2. Oooo good catch.

I'm not usually one to jump on the "racism" bandwagon, but I believe that they have a legitimate complaint.

Kick the crap out of em, guys. They deserve it.

[stepnw1f]

3. Ratings will fall

The blind leading the blind thing is getting old.

[stldemocrat]

4. I saw this...

It's W's Walid Horton ad. Racist B*stards.

[July]

23. Good way to put it, stldemocrat.

Memorable.

[meegbear]

5. I love it ...

he keeps cranking 'em out and shooting himself in the foot. Keep it up *!

[montanacowboy]

6. Well, baby is just following in dada's footsteps

remember Willie Horton? used against another Mass. Liberal? well, guess what - here we go again - back to the future with all the old tired negativity - dada and baby - what a pair of worthless tits

[saigon68]

9. Willie Horton = Blatant Racism

Yes folks --it was King McShrub #1 who put that shit out.

The thought of a violent black man coming into your lily white daughter's bedroom and RAPING her was too much for WHITE Amerika to handle.

So they voted for the Connecticut Yankee from Texas.

4 Years later they voted the sorry ass motherfucker out.

Redux 2004 ?

[bobbieinok]

26. wasn't earlier stated on DU that W worked with Atwater in 88?

...

[saigon68]

39. I had seen that before

The Chimpanzee may have worked with Atwater. It is doubtful however if Atwater ever gave the Chimp any job more mentally challenging than getting the coffee.

Atwater, God rest his soul was true evil personified. The new generation of Handlers, Ralph Reed, Rove et al, learned a lot from Lee Atwater. They are evil, racist hooligans. If there is some toothless low educated voting imbecile out there, Ralph and Rove will figure a way to motivate that cretin to vote for corporate special interests.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

7. Bush is the fucking terrorist

I don't honestly don't understand how anyone can vote for this guy with a clear conscience unless they themselves are the same type of hate mongering asshole. He's no better than Pat Robertson - he just keeps his mouth shut a little better (which ain't sayin much).

[NewYorkerfromMass]

13. Well said

Similar words run through my mind when trying to fathom support for the fool.

[Cooley Hurd]

8. Hi frankzappa!

As per LBN rules, the subject line of the thread should be the same as the article cited. Please feel free to report with the correct subject line.

Thanks! :hi:

[DinahMoeHum]

12. Done.

n/t

:kick:

[Florida_Geek]

10. 40,000 Muslims voted for * in Florida out of 50,000

If Rove keeps this up, their will be 40,000 Muslims voters for Kerry.

[NewJeffCT]

11. This will hurt them - don't forget terrorist enable Grover Norquist

Terrorist enabler Grover Norquist, one of the top Republican economic strategists (he's on of those behind the Starve the Beast philosphy)bragged that he had brought in the Islamic vote in 2000 and that is what had won Florida for Bush...

[stldemocrat]

15. That and a crooked supreme court....

[ConcernedCanuk]

14. Hmmm - they did the same thing, pix of twin towers while mentioning Saddam

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and vice versa

pictures of Saddam floating in the background while mentioning the Towers

and it worked . .

there's still way too many Americans that connect the towers with Saddam . .


so this bugs me because the majority of the American people "bought" it last time

I know there's outrage out there - I just hope it's enough when it comes to voting . . :shrug:

[Romulus]

16. According to some DUers, Zogby is a "right winger"

So shouldn't this stunt be suspect? :shrug:

[demdave]

17. I think you are thinking of the Zogby that does the polls.

This guy is James Zogby, president of the Washington-based Arab American Institute and a member of the Democratic party's National Committee. I believe it to be a different person


BTW, many people around here only believe polls that back their positions.

[Lisa]

35. thanks for the info!

All along, I've been thinking it was the same Zogby. I wondered why "he" was so outspoken, while running a polling firm! I even wrote an article recently that identified James as the pollster. I'll correct that now -- you've saved me from an embarrassing mistake

[murielm99]

40. I may be wrong, but I thought the two Zogbys were relatives.

The pollster Zogby wrote a letter, too, when Cheney misused one of his polls.

[stldemocrat]

18. Wrong Zogby

I think you are thinking of a different Zogby. This one seems to have an organization to protect Arab Americans from discrimination. I think the one you are thinking of is the pollster. I am sure Arab Americans have had enough of the discrimination, and will vote Democratic this fall.

I type a little slow.

[goclark]

19. Go Zogby! It's Racist To The Core

Now if other Arabs that believe that Bush loves them will see the light, they will change their votes to Democratic.

I am African American and I am insulted with the Ad! Why does everything bad need to be dark? I see the Ad as a strong hint that Bushco will protect their base from all African Americans and Hispanics and Asians. Anyone that isn't pure White. Of course that is what they want it to mean.

Why didn't they have a picture of Timothy McVey and his buddies? What about using the KKK who are alive and well all over this country?

I am writing Mr. UnPresident right after this and tell him that the Ad is racist to the core.

Where is the compassion? Where is Colin? Where is Babysitter Condi?
He usually shows Condi every time he needs a diaper change - what did she say when she saw this AD --- I know, she thought it was wonderful! :mad:

[stldemocrat]

20. Condi

It is hard to believe that Condi Rice is an African American or a woman the way she supports Bush*'s anti-woman anti-minority agenda.

[goclark]

21. Condi is a Turn Coat

According to friends that knew her family. They were nothing like this, she was raised to respect civil rights gains.
I have no excuse for her sorry stand on everything that is good for ALL people.

So many people tell me that Colin is better than Condi. I say they could both be put in the same cell that Clarence The Porn Man is in.
They do not represent our leadership at all.

[stldemocrat]

22. Powell

I thought Powell used to be better. It seems like he has taken a clear turn for the worse. I have wondered whether the Bush junta "has" something on him.

[yardwork]

31. There are a lot of white people who don't represent my point of view.

Sadly, bigotry comes in all shapes, sizes, and colors.

[murielm99]

41. She is one of them.

Condi is an oil woman. She served for ten years on the board of directors of Chevron. She has a tanker named after her. She secured oil contracts for Chevron throughout the Caspian and other former Soviet republics. Why do you suppose she is so close to them? Her skin has nothing to do with it. She is just another greedy repuke bastard.

[Rex]

24. Don't hold your breath AAI

The loony RW hates you...and anyone who is not a carbon copy RW nazi.

[The Stranger]

25. For Chimp, Arch-Bigot Ashcroft and their whole host of racists . . .

. . . the Muslim/Arab is the "Other" for the 21st Century. It is an easy one to revive and has its roots in the European Crusades. They are dehumanized and subhuman in image and in subtext, and this makes it okay to "convert," occupy, maim, rob, and murder them.

There have been "Others" in the past, including African-Americans, European Jews (also originating from the Christian Crusades), Native Americans, the list goes on. . .

[dai]

27. About 3 of 4

Arab-Americans are actually Christian. Most of the anti-Arab crowd is unaware of this.

Not that it should matter, this sort of flagrant scapegoating would be just as sickening if most Arab Americans were Muslim. It simply underscores the intellectually bankrupt nature of stereotyping.

[Lisa]

28. I wonder whose photo it really is? If it was from an image bank ...

... like the volunteer firefighters in the first ad ... imagine how surprised some guy's going to be when his neighbors chase him down the street with baseball bats?


But seriously, I did think the symbolism was a bit heavyhanded. How about showing a pic of, say, Timothy McVeigh?

[yardwork]

32. Can't show Tim McVeigh

He was American, white, blonde. If W reminds people that most terrorists are home-grown, he loses the fear factor.

We will not be hearing much about anthrax from W this year, either.

[llmart]

29. He doesn't care about the Arab Americans.....

anyway since polls show they're not going to vote for him. Dearborn, Michigan has the largest Arab American population and the last polls showed the majority of them will not vote for *.

[David Zephyr]

33. This Bush Campaign Keeps Stepping On It's Own Proverbial Dick

er...as in Dick Cheney, of course.

[notadmblnd]

34. Wow, so far they've po'ed the 911 families and the Arabs

at the rate the bushistas are going they'll have po'ed every ethnic group in the nation by November. St. Pattys day is next week, will they roll out a new ad to po the Irish?

[truthisfreedom]

37. and their reactions to nearly all complaining groups have disenchanted

even more Americans.

limbaugh really hosed up trying to defend bush... check out this piece:

http://www.opednews.com/duncan031004_limbaugh.htm{/url}

quotes:

A Not-So-Mighty Wind: Limbaugh Blows It Once Again
By Allan P. Duncan
So yesterday, while doing a Google search on 9-11, I ran across a radio transcript from Rush Limbaugh's radio show titled Anti-Bush 9-11 Families Backed By Heinz Foundation in which Limbaugh bashes two 9-11 Widows for being critical of the 9-11 footage in the recent Bush Campaign ads.
Here are some excerpts from the show:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_030904/content/see_i_told_you_so.guest.html
“Well, it turns out that a lot of these 9-11 family members are part of a political organization that is funded in part by Teresa Heinz-Kerry! Well, this stuff is incestuous! You know, these people are poisoned. They have literally been poisoned by their hate. They have been poisoned by their rage. It is unbelievable, the depths to which they will sink.

<snip>

Well, I have a big surprise for Mr. Limbaugh!

September 11 th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows released this statement last night in response to the claims that Teresa Heinz Kerry was funding their organization:
Peaceful Tomorrows statement on the "Kerry Connection"

September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows has never received funding from the Howard Heinz Endowment, the Vira I. Heinz Endowment, Teresa Heinz Kerry or John Kerry.

Peaceful Tomorrows has no connection with the Heinz or Kerry families through Tides Foundation, the Tides Center or any other entity.

Peaceful Tomorrows has been a not-for-profit project of the Tides Center since July of 2002.  As our fiscal sponsor, the Tides Center provides administrative and financial services that allow the staff and membership of Peaceful Tomorrows to focus on work related to our mission.  We raise money for our own work and we pay Tides Center 9% of those funds in exchange for vital services such as invoice payment, tax services, and insurance.

Any questions about Tides Foundation or the Tides Center can be addressed to Christopher Herrera , Tides Foundation's Director of Communications at 415. 561. 6355, or Willa Seldon, Executive Director for the Tides Center at 415.
561. 6300.

[yardwork]

38. This is exactly what Kerry was talking about

when he spoke of the attack crews being liars. This is absolute proof of a lie (oops, mistake) that Rush Limbaugh made on the air.

Has Rush corrected his "error" yet? Has he apologized to the families?

I won't hold my breath.

[murielm99]

42. I hope they are stupid enough to tangle with Heinz-Kerry.

She is one tough lady, and she wont put up with it. If they mess with her family enough, she will come out with both guns blazing and use her money and clout against them.

C'mon, stupid repukes! Keep making mistakes!

Theresa Heinz-Kerry is going to be a great first lady.

[JoeKSimmons]

36. Right on and now it's time for John F. Kerry to ride this wave!!!

JFK needs to pick up on this gaff and play it for all its worth!

Tim to stop being on the defensive and attack W where it hurts!!!

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