Lugar: Let's Put Health Care On Hold To Deal With Afghanistan

[IndianaGreen]

Source: Huffington Post

Lugar: Let's Put Health Care On Hold To Deal With Afghanistan

One of President Barack Obama's closest Republican allies in the Senate urged him to put health care reform on the backburner and focus on Afghanistan.

Sen. Richard Lugar (R-Ind.), a trusted GOP voice on foreign policy matters, told CNN's "State of the Union" that in light of a forthcoming increase in troops to Afghanistan, Democrats should turn their attention to matters of war and money.



Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/29/lugar-lets-put...

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Reagan thought there were "moderates" in Iran during Iran-Contra. He was proven wrong, just as Obama will be proven wrong about Afghanistan. There is nothing "moderate" about Wahhabism, the Saudi-based religion of the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.

If by "moderate" you mean Taliban elements that can be bought, this is what will happen: they will take our money, make public pledge they hate the Arabs of Al-Qaeda, and then proceed to attack us because they hate us as foreigners.

While we are spending $1.3 billion in Taliban payoffs (as reported by the Toronto Star), the American people suffer for lack of a viable safety net. The US will go the way of other empires in Afghanistan.

As other DUers have warned, we can choose to stay in Afghanistan or we can choose to concentrate our efforts in saving the American people from economic ruin. We can't do both!

[saltpoint]

1. Let's don't, let's do it now and let's do it right, and next time let's

field a goddamned candidate to run against this somnolent fool from Indiana.

[IndianaGreen]

7. The Indiana Democratic Party did not even run a candidate against Lugar in 2006. Do you know why?

Because the national Democratic Party did not give them any money to mount a challenge, that's why!

[saltpoint]

13. IMO there was no excuse in letting Lugar go unchallenged.

It's my guess if we asked Howard Dean what he would have done, he would say, "Recruit a good, smart, tough candidate, and let's at least put a dent in the son-of-a-bitch."

[and-justice-for-all]

39. Lets just redeploy February 1st..nt

[icee2]

2. Health of war profiteers more important than that of US. n/t

[ananda]

3. How about: let's get out of the ME and deal with healthcare properly?

Hmmm???

[msongs]

4. yet another attempt by repubs to derail welfare for health scare corporations lol nt

[FormerDittoHead]

5. How about putting Afghanistan on hold to deal with Health Care?

Funny how war gets to trump everything in America.

[earcandle]

22. We are a bunch of fuckheads, after all (warhead = fuckhead)

[TankLV]

34. And funny how it's an ILLEGAL War of CHOICE based on LIES that's NEVER ENDING...

and will ALWAYS bust ANY "budget" so we can NEVER do ANYTHING that actually HELPS people!!!

Yeah - let's WAIT to do it till AFTER this ENDLESS WAR THAT WILL NEVER END THAT THE REPUKE STARTED FOR JUST THIS PURPOSE!!!

How CONVENIENT...!!!

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[bemildred]

8. Let's put Lugar "on hold" instead. nt

[Hubert Flottz]

9. Say Kids, Do Ya Know What Time It Is?

Then


Now

[Hubert Flottz]

14. Then

HONK! HONK!


NOW



Whooooooooooooooooooooooosh!

[Hubert Flottz]

20. Count the A$$holes in the following picture.

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(12 si rewsnA tcerroC ehT)

[cowcommander]

10. And he's supposed to be Obama's closest R ally?

[L. Coyote]

11. Let's Put WAR On Hold To Deal With The Reality

of how WAR is bankrupting our economy!!

[Zoeisright]

12. Why can't these repukes every do more than one thing at a time?

It's like they are horribly uncoordinated and incredibly stupid.

Oh, that's right. They are!

[CLANG]

15. When have they even done ONE thing at a time?

I guess obstruction counts. My bad!

[sam sarrha]

16. GOP is a Cargo Cult of OCD Wealth Hoarders, they believe that wealth is the Measure of gODs favor of

a man, therefore it is a sin to tax a Rich Man/Corporation. the poor are being punished by gOD, therefore it is a sin to help them.

we need to spread this message and reveal the truth to the people they've conned into supporting this insanity. they think anything they do to hoard more wealth is ordained by gOD, anyone they hurt deserves it..

[Myrina]

17. Lugar represents the Wellpoint, Anthem and Eli Lilly HQ area ..

... in Central Indiana. Of course he wants reform 'on hold' so they have more time to jack up prices and rape consumers.


Senile old Assclown.

[IndianaGreen]

21. No, that's Evan Bayh! Bayh's wife sits on the board of Wellpoint

and the Bayhs hold millions of dollars in health industry and Big Pharma stocks.

No surprise that Evan Bayh opposes single payer, and prefers exchanges to a viable public option.

[Myrina]

42. I'm sure Lugar's pockets have been lined as well ...

Bayh is beneath contempt, where I'm concerned. What a waste of a human being.

[IndianaGreen]

43. There is a challenge to Evan Bayh's reelection

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[penndragon69]

18. Lugar is one of my senators.

The reason we can't run anyone against him in Indiana is pretty simple....can you say red neck heaven?

He is a senile crackpot and needs to be replaced, maybe this time there are enough enlightened minds in Indiana to make a difference.

(but i wouldn't hold my breath.)

[Inuca]

35. Lugar is NOT a senile crackpot

I saw the interview this morning. He was sane and thoughtful as usual, except for the comment about putting HCR on hold which was very disappointing but not surprising (Lugar is sane but does wander too far from the fold). But from here to labeling one of the very few wise and considerate Rs left in congress a crackpot is a long way.

[unabelladonna]

19. um, let's put afghanistan on hold

to deal with health care, which next to the economy is the most important issue facing us as a nation. withdraw every one of our troops.

[DallasNE]

23. This Has Been The Constant Refrain For The Last 45 Years

At some point you have to ask, if not now when. Sen. Lugar has taken his eye off the ball anyway because the health reform measure in the Senate now is less costly than putting it on the back burner as Lugar wants. Making matters worse seems like a strange argument for Lugar to be making.

[seeinfweggos]

24. why the rush? let's just solve every other problem THEN get back to HC

[DallasNE]

40. What Rush?

This has been batted back and forth for the last 45 years. If not now, when?

[seeinfweggos]

41. i thought my use of "every other problem" would make my sarcasm clear

no, i think lugar's statements are absurd - and he is supposed to be one of the reasonable ones?

[liberal N proud]

25. Better idea, lets get out of Afghanistan so we can provide health care

You fucking fool!

[TwilightGardener]

26. Disappointed in Lugar, who seems fairly reasonable as the Gang Of Psychos goes.

How long does the country go on standstill when the wars go on for a decade or more?

[Inuca]

36. Agree, disappoining

since Lugar is definitely not one of the psychos. But I assume that this is one of the key points the Rs want to push ("Now is NOT the time for HRC"), and Lugar while sane, is not a rebel.

[sulphurdunn]

27. Nothing

gives better political cover for diverting public money from social to military spending like war, especially when business makes money from the latter and not the former.

[jwirr]

28. No, Lugar, let's do it the other way around. For one thing it is foreign

intervention that has caused every other empire that ever existed to fall. They could not afford both home and the empire. (The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers by Paul Kennedy and Empire by Chalmers Johnson) We are on the brink of that cliff now - we are borrowing money to fight these stupid wars. We need to return to the needs here at home now before we cannot return at all because we are totally broke.

[Dover]

29. The same Dick Lugar that Obama had considered for Sec. Of State and one of the authors/proponents of

The Silk Road Policy?

Surprised?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[SOS]

30. Where was Lugar's "concern" between October 2001 and January 2009?

[indypaul]

31. Still trying to avoid explaining his roll in

the passage of the "Enron exemption" legislation with
Phil Gramm that put us into this financial mess. Let's
not discuss that either right now.

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[Dinger]

33. Isn't That A Cute Little Trick

Fuck you DICK.

[soupkitchen]

37. More War Less Health Care

Palin/Beck '012

[bulloney]

38. Sen. Lugnut is another politician who has to address his lack of a penis

at the expense of the good of the welfare of the people of this country.

Do you notice how there's rarely any debate on whether we can afford ANYTHING the military asks?

Do you want obsolete toys that may have worked in a 1940s-type conflict, but don't address the types of conflicts we're currently involved in? No problem.

We realize that our occupations in Afghanistan and Iraq have done nothing to make the world more secure. What's that? You want more troops? No problem.

People like Sen. Lugnut are insecure about their manhood--or lack of it. So, they deal with it by advocating unlimited spending on military weapons.

And the hell with costly things like universal healthcare.