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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 09:28 AM
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Obama to attend beginning of U.N. climate meeting
Source: Reuters

U.S. President Barack Obama will travel to Copenhagen to attend the beginning of a U.N. climate change meeting on Dec. 9, an administration official told Reuters on Wednesday.

Obama planned to make a visit in Copenhagen before picking up the Nobel Peace Prize at a ceremony in neighboring Oslo.

He did not plan to return for the end of the Dec. 7-18 meeting, when roughly 65 other heads of state and government are expected to attend, the official said.

Read more: http://www.forexyard.com/en/reuters_inner.tpl?action=2009-11-25T141711Z_01_N25348077_RTRIDST_0_CLIMATE-OBAMA-URGENT
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optimator Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:07 AM
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1. he is really going to Oslo?
thats pretty arrogant.
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 10:17 AM
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2. I suppose he's only going to the opening
to say that climate change isn't a problem.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:01 PM
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3. What do you mean?
You do know that Obama isn't a denier, don't you?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 01:13 PM
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15. Uhhm .. are you confusing President Obama with Senator Inhofe
Quick question would Inhofe have appointed the energy/environmental people that Obama did?
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:37 PM
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4. Obama Will Go to Copenhagen Meeting on Climate Change
Edited on Wed Nov-25-09 10:25 AM by villager
Source: Bloomberg

Obama Will Go to Copenhagen Meeting on Climate Change

By Hans Nichols and Kim Chipman


Nov. 25 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama will join at least 65 other world leaders in Copenhagen next month during United Nations talks on combating climate change, an administration official said today.

Danish Prime Minister Lars Loekke Rasmussen has invited the heads of almost 200 countries to the Danish capital for the Dec. 7-18 meeting. Leaders planning to make an appearance also include German Chancellor Angela Merkel, U.K. Prime Minister Gordon Brown and Japanese Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama.

The president will go to Copenhagen Dec. 9, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. He will then travel to accept the Nobel Peace prize in Oslo, Norway, on Dec. 10.

Obama, who campaigned on a pledge to tackle climate change aggressively, has been under pressure to attend the meeting amid criticism that the U.S., the biggest greenhouse-gas producer on a per-capita basis, is thwarting progress because of a lack of new national laws to limit heat-trapping pollution and create an emissions-trading market

The U.S. Senate is unlikely to pass climate legislation before the Copenhagen meeting, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, has said lawmakers will try to focus on the issue “sometime in the spring.” Without a bill from the Senate, which must ratify treaties by a two-thirds majority, Obama’s negotiators are left without firm guidelines to center their discussions.

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Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aAjPmtxSLHV4
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:37 PM
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5. Wow, why do we need three of these?
Edited on Wed Nov-25-09 11:11 AM by montanto
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:37 PM
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6. BRREAKING:Obama To Copenhagen For Climate Talks
Source: Huffington Post

WASHINGTON -- A White House official says President Barack Obama will travel to Copenhagen next month for a global climate conference.

The official says the president will be in Copenhagen on Dec. 9 before heading to Oslo to accept the Nobel Peace Prize. Obama's attendance had been in question until now.

At least 65 world leaders will attend and seek to lay out the framework for a new global warming treaty. Obama has said the goal at the Copenhagen meeting should be an agreement that has "immediate operational effect," not just a political declaration. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because the formal announcement has not been made.

Under pressure from other nations as one of the world's largest greenhouse-gas polluters, the Obama administration said the United States plans to present a target for reducing carbon dioxide emissions in Copenhagen.

The development came as the European Union urged the United States and China to deliver greenhouse gas emissions targets at the long-anticipated summit, saying their delays were hindering global efforts to curb climate change.

For nearly a year the Obama administration has indicated it would eventually come up with specific targets for quick reductions in pollution that causes global warming, as part of international negotiations. Those targets will soon be made public, officials said.

A senior administration official, briefing reporters only on condition of anonymity in order to discuss the administration's thinking, said that all countries, including the U.S., "will need to put their emissions targets on the table."

The Obama administration has resisted talking specific numbers without the backing of Congress, which is not expected to pass climate legislation until next year at the soonest. The official would not offer details about the U.S. targets but said any U.S. goal will reflect the unfinished state of legislation on Capitol Hill and would not seek to get ahead of it.

A House-passed bill would slash heat-trapping pollution by 17 percent from 2005 levels by 2020. A Senate bill seeks a 20 percent reduction over the next decade, but that number is likely to come down to win the votes of moderate Democrats.

The United States has historically been the world's largest greenhouse gas-polluter until China zoomed ahead in 2006.

Two weeks before the U.N.-sponsored conference, the world's two biggest polluters have not put any firm bids, or proposals, on the table.

"Without a bid from the U.S. or China, only half of emissions are covered," Sweden's environment minister, Andreas Carlgren, said after he led talks with other EU nations. He said an agreement was "totally dependent" on both countries promising cuts.

Chinese President Hu Jintao said last week that nations would each do what they were able -- referring to China's view that developing nations should not be required to make cuts. China has promised to curb emissions but has not said by how much.

Carlgren said any agreement also had to include pledges from developing countries -- especially major economies such as China -- to curb emissions.

World leaders are no longer expected to reach a legally binding agreement in Copenhagen, and are aiming instead for a political deal that includes commitments on reducing emissions and financing for developing countries to deal with climate change.

The EU's environment commissioner, Stavros Dimas, said nations still had a lot of work to do in Copenhagen because they have to set new emission targets and agree on other actions to curb global warming -- such as how they plan to prevent widespread deforestation.

He said the talks should also set a timetable for 2010 meetings to work toward a full, binding global treaty.

A panel of U.N. scientists has recommended that developed countries cut between 25 percent and 40 percent of greenhouse gas emissions by 2020 to avoid a catastrophic rise in sea levels, harsher storms and droughts, and climate disruptions.

The EU aims for deeper cuts than most other industrialized nations -- pledging to move from a 20 percent cut below 1990 levels to 30 percent if others follow suit. By 2050, it wants to eliminate most emissions, with a target of up to 95 percent.

The U.S. is considering a far lower cut -- 17 percent from 2005 levels or about 3.5 percent from 1990. Japan has promised a 25 percent reduction from 1990 levels. Per head, Americans account for twice the emissions compared to Europeans and Japanese.

While the EU sees itself as a trailblazer, it has delayed promising cash to poorer nations to help them tackle global warming. EU leaders have pledged to pay their "fair share" into an annual global fund but gave no amount.

They estimated that $148 billion a year is needed and that half should come from governments. The EU's executive suggested that the 27 EU governments should give up to $22 billion a year from 2013 to 2020.




Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/25/obama-to-copenhagen-for-c_n_370351.html
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:37 PM
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7. he is probably offering Jim Inhofe a ride to the summit
"How more removed from the day-to-day reality of most Oklahomans can you get than flying to Copenhagen, Denmark to tell the international community the United States will not pass legislation anytime soon dealing with global warming?

But that’s just what U.S. Sen. Jim Inhofe says he intends to do. . . "

http://www.okiefunk.com/taxonomy/term/47
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:37 PM
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8. That’s just what U.S. Sen. Jim Inhofe says he intends to do, according to the National Review.
NOT what Obama is going to do. Get it right
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:37 PM
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14. obviously . . . it pretty much goes without saying, doesn't it?
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:37 PM
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11. Go away.
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PaulaFarrell Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:37 PM
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12. Yes, the science is settled
Has been for some time
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:37 PM
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13. If you live inland, on some mountains, you don't have much...
to worry about, except that both coasts will be inundated with water and tens of millions of people will be coming your way. They will be hungry, because agriculture will be a wreck; they will be ill because many pharmaceutical plants are on the coasts; they will be walking because the coastal refineries will be gone; they will be barely clothed because textile plants have closed down in this country.

The upside, you may have waterfront property!

Then again, fishing grounds will be devastated, pollution will increase dramatically; drinking water will be affected and weather/storm patterns will be dramatically disturbed.

I find it interesting that Limbaugh, in FL will lose all he has as the seas rise and he sits in a rubber life raft wondering "how could this have happened?". So be it for those who find the science, "wanting"...:hi:
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-25-09 12:37 PM
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9. This is GREAT news! I had a...
...feeling he would go... ;)
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