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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 12:17 AM
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Opposition: Iran Rulers Worse than Shah
Source: CBS News

(AP) Iran's embattled opposition leaders accused the government of becoming more brutal than the shah's regime in Web statements Saturday, and authorities announced a new Internet crackdown aimed at choking off the reform movement's last real means of keeping its campaign alive.

Two of Iran's top pro-reform figures said police used excessive force against anti-government protesters who took to the streets last week on the sidelines of state-sanctioned rallies to mark the 30th anniversary of the U.S. Embassy takeover.

Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mahdi Karroubi, who lead the protest movement rejecting the legitimacy of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's June re-election, said authorities wielding batons even struck women on their heads. They called such treatment an ugly act that was not even seen during Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi's response to the 1979 Islamic revolution that toppled him.

"I can't understand why they should treat people like this," Karroubi was quoted as saying by several opposition Web sites. "... I struggled against the Pahlavi regime for 15 years ... but there were no such crackdowns."


Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/14/world/main5649038.shtml?tag=cbsnewsSectionContent.2
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 12:21 AM
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1. So what is the UN doing about this? Nothing! What is the US doing about this? Nothing! duh..n/t
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 12:32 AM
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2. Well, Former U.N. Abassador John Bolton Says Israel Must Bomb Iran
So, I guess Bolton's answer is to help them by sending them into oblivion:

http://www.frumforum.com/bolton-israel-must-bomb-iran

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Former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton addressed a crowded room at the American Enterprise Institute today, saying that “the use of force is required” to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, and predicting that he didn’t “think that Israel hesitate to act preemptively.”

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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 12:36 AM
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3. OMFG... Is that moran still around? What an ass wipe! I wish the hell he would...
Edited on Sun Nov-15-09 12:42 AM by LakeSamish706
go the way of GW Bush.. And STFU..... God, I would love to meet that POS in a dark alley... ugh...
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 01:13 AM
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4. Geee wizzz ain't that something
don't allys have street lights ! Last week I saw a hooker wearing a sign around her neck it said
hug a thug you might live a little longer



geeee wizzzzzz !
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 12:04 PM
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5. I have some questions...?
What exactly could the US do that would not screw up the opposition in Iran?


What would YOU like to see Obama do that he is not doing?


I am not trying to argue I just hear folks saying, "...the US is doing nothing!"...So, what is it that we should be doing and would it favor the opposition to have America getting involved or play right into the hands of Ahmadinejad? These are very important questions that folks who think we should get involved should think about.
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Garam_Masala Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 03:38 PM
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7. First thing US should do is...
not elevate international status of Iran's Mullah run regime by holding talks
with them. Instead elevate the democratic opposition forces by holding well
publicised talks with THEM!
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 09:01 AM
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8. Are you joking or being serious?
Edited on Mon Nov-16-09 09:03 AM by SkyDaddy7
The opposition leaders would never go for something like that. That would be political suicide within Iran! The leadership in Iran, especially Ahmadinejad, would simply say America is trying to undermine the Islamic Revolution and that would be that!

Obama knows this and so does the opposition within Iran...If it were that simple it would have already been done. Seriously, don't you think we have tried similar tactics when Bush was running the show...How did that work out? This is an Iranian dispute better handled by the Iranians! The opposition is not going away and if you know anything about revolutions within Iran then you know they grow slowly over time as this is doing!

Go to Twitter and ask Iranians for yourself...They will tell you the best possible thing America can do is allow the Iranian People settle their own disputes. The last thing they need is America meddling in their country and ruining the opposition movement.

Meanwhile, Obama has a job to do that involves talking to Iran about their nuclear ambitions...And it appears to me he has gotten much further than Bush ever did. Which of course is not saying much as it is still very early but it is what it is.

I share your frustration as I want us to do something as well...However, we are doing something by not doing something. Does that make sense?
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-15-09 01:14 PM
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6. Any chance that this might be hyperbolic propaganda? I know the regime is not a bunch
of Boy Scouts, but the "worse than the Shah" statement sounds like something the CIA would encourage to whip up a frenzy over Iran.

It's been done before.

Anybody remember babies being snatched out of incubators in Kuwait?


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