Former presidents to face off in debate

Source: NY Post

Bubba and Dubya are going to engage in a presidential debate for the ages.

Former President Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will square off on the same stage at Radio City Music Hall in February as part of a series pitting liberal and conservative thinkers.
The event is part of MSG Entertainment's third annual "Minds That Move The World" speakers series.

The event -- billed as "The Hottest Ticket in Political History" -- will take place on Feb. 25, 2010, at 8 p.m., according to organizers.

Clinton, a Democrat who served two terms starting in 1993, and Bush, a Republican, who also served two consecutive terms starting in 2001, will engage in an "uncensored, unedited and unpredixctable" debate.

Since its inception, the series has featured such high-profile figures as former Bush's former Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, Democratic political strategist James Carville, former Vice President Al Gore, comedian Bill Maher and former Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/former_presidents_to...

Biden/Palin 'debate'. How many times will W wink?

as long as Clinton doesn't play nice. What will Dubya do without a microphone in his ear?

an ass kicking contest. :rofl:

I apologize in advance.

Or better yet - Chelsea and Jenna.

Has some alure to it... intersting....

Now, I would not diminish the fact that Kerry is an outstanding debater against anyone, but the fact is that people at that time comparing JUST the Bush parts of Bush vs Ann Richards, Bush vs Gore, and then Bush vs Kerry found that he became worse as time went on. (One advantage Clinton has over Kerry is that Bush is not the President, they are both ex-Presidents. Of course, a major advantage Kerry has over Clinton is temperament - the only thing I can see hurting Clinton is if he explodes.)

The question is whether it will really be a real debate, as even the Presidential debates weren't.

an audience does that. Why does Clinton want it?

We have a winner! This is all about rehabilitation for the genocidal murderer and his disastrous 2 term maladministration. Waste of time and money. Clinton is such a rat allowing himself to be the tool that cleans the murderer of all the blood he shed for nothing.

Didn't Bush just do that embarrassing "Get Motivated!" seminar in Fort Worth? This is all about the money. And, much as I'll always love Bill Clinton (flaws and all), I'm thinking he's looking at the cash as well.

Don't expect Clinton to embarrass Bush. I imagine it will be pretty academic - yup, even for dubya (I don't think he's nearly as stupid as he'd have us believe). And now that he's not running for office, he might just be a little honest for a change.

Ok so he is friendly with Bush 88 but why appear with 00?

Already was embarrassed by Kerry and Gore before that, so this will be nothing new...

Considering most of us would like to see the entire family in jail !!!

two fucking free traders on the same stage. Maybe they could ship a few more jobs over seas!!!

Apparently that first death didn't really take with those two.

Clinton will shred Little Boots.

He was alone onstage, he had every opportunity to shred Bush, and did not. Audience had Q and A time. Memebers of the audience asked him to shred Bush. He did not. He would not. And he won't.

Wheeeeeee!!!

In the safe haven of America, war criminals can find many opportunities to flaunt themselves and earn money. They can teach, hit the lecture circuit, and even sit on the bench! Because in America, crimes against humanity won't land you in jail (but smoking pot will). So torture all you want - just don't fire one up when you do!

You gotta be a dumbass to try and debate that guy.

I mean come on...is this for real?

before the debate - you know, the way guys do. It might have dislodged something.

'woo hoo! high 5! on the flip side'

He has to compete WITHOUT "help" from his wireless...

I guess that gets him a "Gentleman's C", so he passes?

The Big Dog is going to dominate. I mean this is like putting the head of the debate team up against the cheerleader on the bottom of the pyramid.

Two former Presidents who get more in a pension than I ever earned in a salary, have 24/7 secret service, drive and fly around in big cars and private planes...

These people are relevant to us after that last 17 years ....WHY?

This is absurd.

Source: CBS News

It is, according to organizers, "the hottest ticket in political history": On February 25th, former Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton will debate at Radio City Music Hall in New York City.

Interested spectators can pay $60 for the cheap seats or shell out up to $1,250 to be closer to the action and attend a cocktail reception with the former presidents.

As Newsday reports, the two men have been teaming up a lot: They appeared together in Toronto in May (reports speculated that they earned $150,000 each for the hour-long appearance) and will be together at a TD Ameritrade conference in Florida in February.

Organizers at these sorts of events generally do not disclose how much participants are compensated.

A spokesperson for Madison Square Garden Entertainment, which is hosting the event, could not immediately be reached for comment. Newsday reports that "Clinton and Bush, during a moderated question-and-answer period, will discuss a wide range of current events and national issues."

The event may not offer the fireworks that partisans might hope for: At the Toronto event, Mr. Bush called Mr. Clinton "brother" and the two rarely disagreed despite their ideological differences. The Toronto crowd was reportedly disappointed and had hoped for a more spirited debate.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/04/politics/politi...

Which corporate speaking gig gives them the sweetest perks?

True, Bill signed repeal of Glass Steagall, but Dummya could have reinstated it and did not. Bill left office with a modest surplus. Dummya left office with the world in an economic black hole. So, overall, I have to go with Bush.

BTW, Obama has not reinstated Glass Steagall either and while we are all looking at health care, Barney Frank's Committee is up to no good on derivatives and "too big to fail" institutions.

What this country DESPERATELY needs is a sharp turn to the left. A true Progressive administration and a Progressive majority in the Congress. Interesting how the Democrats are now the fiscally responsible party.

What I'd also like to see is gutting the Defense budget by a good 20-25%. $750 BILLION per YEAR is insane!!

They're going to debate as to who screwed us more.

This is not good. His last year in office, Bill Clinton had a complete change of personality. Perhaps a minor stroke, TIA? And now, it's beyond cynical.

Since we have surrendered the msn stage to clowns and bloviators, it's only reasonable that ex-politicos stepped up their game. Costumes, 'fighting names' and pretty girls with round cards (Hillary, Laura, old gray Babs?)

Leave it to Bill to willingly sign up to rehabilitate George W. Bush's reputation.

that a Clinton/W debate will do anything for W's reputation. Are we sure he's not debating Bush Sr.? I can't imagine the smart, articulate Clinton against dumb, tongue-tied Bush. I mean, why would W even do this? It's shooting fish in a barrel. It's kinda gross to even think about

Clinton fronted for Bush in Toronto, and now he's doing it again.

Either Clinton truly believes that Bush deserves a credible platform from which to speak, or there is nothing he won't do for money.

I hope it actually is a real debate and Bush gets slaughtered.

he's a human shield.

well deserving charity at the very least.

What does W know about current events and national issues? Clinton has hit a new low by engaging with the greatest half-wit ever to sit in the oval office.

GW should not go near a stage with Clinton ~maybe he will wear his mike that he wore during those debates.

It is not like he will blast away at ****. This debate is hard to defend.

his back? If not,I pity the fool Dubya.

Clinton should be crushing Dumbya up at every opportunity for all the death and destruction he and 5-deferment Cheney caused....NOT TEAMING UP...

I can't believe I would see a post about those 2 teaming up. Clinton better destroy Bush in this NYC yakfest, and show little George for the total fraud that he is and represents. But something tells me that is not how it's going to play out.

"Ex-Presidents" cartoons on Saturday Night Live.

our current President seemingly relishes.

Is it any wonder that most peoples of the Middle East hate our guts? :shrug:

This is Clinton's second effort at sharing the stage so as to legitimize Bush.

If his rationale for doing this is purely money, then clearly his greed knows no bounds.

If he is doing this for some other reason, I'd like to know what it is.

Let's call it what it is, a money-making event.

Cause he sure don't act like he's smart.

So glad this nonsense was called off.

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This is going to seem like a repeat of the	alsame	Nov-03-09 04:57 PM	#1
Couldn't find a liberal?	rurallib	Nov-03-09 04:57 PM	#2
Good line. Although the right does see Bush as a lib.	timeforpeace	Nov-03-09 05:15 PM	#10
now that woud be something	dana_b	Nov-03-09 04:59 PM	#3
Bush is a "thinker"?	latebloomer	Nov-03-09 05:00 PM	#4
LOL! And their term "conservative thinker" is an oxymoron. (nt)	JaneQPublic	Nov-03-09 10:46 PM	#44
+1	HuckleB	Nov-04-09 02:22 AM	#48
One legged man, in	Autumn	Nov-03-09 05:01 PM	#5
Big Dog will kick some ass!	hamsterjill	Nov-03-09 05:01 PM	#6
I thought this was from the Onion.. really!	Voice for Peace	Nov-03-09 05:01 PM	#7
This is sponsored by the "Onion" right?....n/t	monmouth	Nov-03-09 05:02 PM	#8
Maybe next they will have Laura and Hillary.	DURHAM D	Nov-03-09 05:07 PM	#9
Oh that Chelsea and Jenna	humbled_opinion	Nov-03-09 08:04 PM	#36
Rhodes scholar vs. a moran....eom	StopTheNeoCons	Nov-03-09 05:16 PM	#11
Strange that Bush would even agree to this - his debates against Kerry were pathetic	karynnj	Nov-03-09 05:24 PM	#12
He wants social rehabilitation	Doc Martin	Nov-03-09 05:26 PM	#15
You are probably right - just being on the stage with Clinton before	karynnj	Nov-03-09 06:56 PM	#28
That should only happen IF he deserves it. n/t	YvonneCa	Nov-03-09 09:33 PM	#39
BINGO!!!!	edwardian	Nov-04-09 07:02 AM	#49
they will make Clinton remove his shoes...	sam sarrha	Nov-03-09 05:45 PM	#17
will they let Clinton wear shoes, we need a Smilie throwing its shoe.. the other smilie ducks	sam sarrha	Nov-03-09 05:49 PM	#19
Not surprised Clinton & Bush are doing this...	Barb in Atl	Nov-03-09 07:45 PM	#31
finding employment is rough these days. dontcha know?	robinlynne	Nov-04-09 02:01 AM	#47
Clinton on stage with a war criminal?	Doc Martin	Nov-03-09 05:25 PM	#13
Dubya	bikesein	Nov-03-09 05:26 PM	#14
Bill is now best buddies with Poppy Bush and is going to slay W . . . ?????	defendandprotect	Nov-03-09 05:30 PM	#16
are they buddies or does Clinton just like to make him cry.. talking about Dubya	sam sarrha	Nov-03-09 05:51 PM	#21
Looks pretty "buddy, buddy" to me . . .	defendandprotect	Nov-03-09 10:29 PM	#43
How boring...........	BlueJac	Nov-03-09 05:45 PM	#18
+1 They say a president dies the first of two deaths when leaving office.	phasma ex machina	Nov-03-09 07:35 PM	#30
Will they let Bush wear the box on his back?	jtrockville	Nov-03-09 05:51 PM	#20
Oh, dear God, it's going to be a massacre.	Arkana	Nov-03-09 05:55 PM	#22
Yawn. nt	bemildred	Nov-03-09 05:57 PM	#23
Encyclopedia vs Cliff's Notes	madamesilverspurs	Nov-03-09 06:03 PM	#24
I went to a Clinton speech about two years ago.	montanto	Nov-03-09 06:07 PM	#25
Time to play 'Legitimize a war criminal!'	Solly Mack	Nov-03-09 06:33 PM	#26
I despise Bush as much as anyone, but this just isn't sporting.	burning rain	Nov-03-09 06:41 PM	#27
yes. its not a fair fight	La Lioness Priyanka	Nov-03-09 07:48 PM	#32
I am so excited I'm going to trim my toenails.	alittlelark	Nov-03-09 07:06 PM	#29
Who is going to give the chimp answers in his ear?	undeterred	Nov-03-09 07:51 PM	#33
Like takin' candy from a baby for Bubba.	tabasco	Nov-03-09 07:52 PM	#34
Will George be patted down for audio devices?	mother earth	Nov-03-09 07:56 PM	#35
I really, really wanted Senator Kerry to slap Bush on the back, hard	Zoeisright	Nov-03-09 10:11 PM	#42
Ha-ha!!! You are so right. You know he's going fully equipped!	mother earth	Nov-04-09 08:25 PM	#88
Bush: I believe in outsourcing jobs, and importing workers Clinton: ME TOO!!!	mule_train	Nov-03-09 08:12 PM	#37
GWB has a mind...	YvonneCa	Nov-03-09 09:30 PM	#38
One word: REDRUM	NeoConsSuck	Nov-03-09 09:40 PM	#40
Remember: NO EAR PIECES FOR Bunkerboy!!!	TankLV	Nov-03-09 09:57 PM	#41
"Minds That Move The World"?? W wrecked the world!	eppur_se_muova	Nov-04-09 12:44 AM	#45
This isnt fair there isnt a coloring contest.	bamacrat	Nov-04-09 01:25 AM	#46
IT'S BEEN CALLED OFF.............LINK	sam sarrha	Nov-04-09 06:05 PM	#50
The circus is coming to town! Somehow I think this is worth skipping!	robo50	Nov-04-09 06:08 PM	#51
Bill Clinton, George W. Bush to Debate in NYC	sabra	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#52
What are they going to debate?	Toucano	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#53
Who's to blame more for the financial crisis?	Roland99	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#54
Both are responsible, but Bush more so.	No Elephants	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#59
I've noted, too, that Obama is not pushing for reinstating that. Clinton also signed NAFTA.	Roland99	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#61
Who's hotter in the Oval Office, Monica or Condi?	MilesColtrane	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#72
No.	daggahead	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#73
Why would Bill Clinton even do this? n/t	2Design	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#55
as a comedy special?	Voice for Peace	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#56
duh! attention... chance to defend his legacy....big money.	BREMPRO	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#57
If You Have To Defend Your Legacy Like That, You Don't Have One	Demeter	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#84
Why does Bill join Dummya on joint speaking engagements?	No Elephants	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#58
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$	pattmarty	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#63
$$$$$$$$$$$$ and ego (although he already has plenty of both)	mitchum	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#76
Why not a Cage Match with Pappy Bush Skydiving In	radhika	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#60
Groan.	David Zephyr	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#62
I Seriously Doubt	RobinA	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#79
Clinton is Bush's #1 PR Guy	Bragi	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#80
That Toronto thing was billed as a "conversation" vs this "debate"	NYC Liberal	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#85
Clinton allows Bush to speak without protesters	Bragi	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#87
If there's money and/or pussy, Clinton won't be far behind	pattmarty	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#64
An hour long charade they mean, I hope Clinton will give his earnings to a	Jefferson23	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#65
Is this a joke?	smirkymonkey	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#66
Clinton will have to put GW on his lap and pull his strings	goclark	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#67
Like your subject, I thought it was a joke. What gain for Clinton?	Paper Roses	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#71
Is Bill Clinton going to have 1/2 of his brain tied behind	sufrommich	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#68
Teaming Up.....TEAMING UP!!!!	Submariner	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#69
I agree, and what the hell could they possibly cover in one hour anyway.	Jefferson23	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#70
Time for some new ...	daggahead	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#74
BFD, Two Presidents who brought us Predator Drone Executions which	ShortnFiery	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#75
What a disgrace. Shame on Clinton.	Bragi	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#77
Clinton IQ 186, Bush IQ 93. Not exactly a debate!	L. Coyote	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#78
Doubt That Clinton's IQ Even Reaches 168	Demeter	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#86
If the Toronto crowd was disappointed then I doubt this event would be worthwhile.	LiberalFighter	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#81
Another chapter in Clinton's long-running work on behalf of the Bush family.	JackRiddler	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#82
More Fake Political Theater for the drooling masses.	TheWatcher	Nov-04-09 07:25 PM	#83
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Locking	Grateful for Hope	Nov-04-09 08:30 PM	#90