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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-01-09 09:36 PM Original message |
'Torture flight' plane spotted in Birmingham |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-01-09 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. Extraordinary Rendition Taxi, that one. link and pic |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-01-09 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. Thank God Obama Has Ended Extraordinary Rendition |
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SpartanDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-01-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Yes it is a good thing he singed that executive order banning it |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-01-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Yes, Because Obama is the alpha and omega of honesty. After all, our government has NEVER ... |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Apparently, the CIA's copy got lost in the mail! |
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BridgeTheGap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
28. They're not part of the Federal government any way and don't have to do what |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
16. "Obama preserves renditions as counter-terrorism tool" |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
34. But but but...look at the MESS he inherited! We must look FORWARD! It's only been 9 MONTHS!!! |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Is THIS the kind of CHANGINESS you want? |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
41. You do notice though, that the LA Times link distinguishes between "rendition" and torture. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
17. Yet, Amnesty International is currently calling on Obama to end extraordinary |
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sattahipdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #3 |
29. The little-noticed provision...going forward |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-01-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. google any variation of "torture continues under Obama" and |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
31. don't forget the blinders and earplugs |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-01-09 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
4. How could we possibly abandon extraordinary rendition. It is now part of the fabric of our society. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-01-09 11:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. +1. God Bless The Corporate States of America. :P |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. You need one more art image or photo image - Congressmen and women with thepartial profile (from |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
30. sadly, that image is far more accurate these days than 50 stars. how low |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. There is a chance it's being used for something other than ER. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. I don't have to catch anyone in the Act.. I trust Amnesty International on this issue more than I |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. Has AI said anything about this plane flight, yet? |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. I tend to agree, caseymoz. But, on the other hand, if they're not doing ER's why shouldn't |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Well, the original ones, like this, were spotted and soon identified. |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
8. L-3 Integrated Systems? Oh, brother |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. And then there's this... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 06:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. "Good catch" eom |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
39. Titan Corp wiki -- "Legal Situations" |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. delete |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
12. K&R |
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Xicano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:15 AM Response to Original message |
14. Remember the 1971 Stanford prison experiment by psychology professor Philip Zimbardo? |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #14 |
25. +1 |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:24 AM Response to Original message |
15. K & R |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 05:49 AM Response to Original message |
19. K&R |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
21. How long until "plane-spotting" is made illegal? |
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
22. Words - or in other words |
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
23. Or, More Words |
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Wingmasters (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
24. So you don’t think it could happen ?? |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
26. Well sometimes outsourcing just makes good sense, |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Yes, now the USA executes people within SOVEREIGN countries - without trial via Drone Bombings and |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
27. Circulate the plane's registration -- N478GS -- and we'll track the torturers all over the world. |
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kaehele (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
33. Unbelievable |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
37. The CIA -- and any President doing this -- have to go . . . there's no democracy |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
38. The gulfstrem put me in mind of another CIA hobby. |
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placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
40. smile |
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