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Blue Dogs’ Fundraising Totals Plummet in Third QuarterUpdated at 5:57 PM
Source: The Centre For Public Integrity


MONEY & POLITICS: Blue Dogs’ Fundraising Totals Plummet in Third Quarter
By Josh Israel, Aaron Mehta | October 27, 2009, 7:00 am

It’s official. The Blue Dog’s fundraising slowdown was not just a symptom of the dog days of summer. Newly released public disclosure forms indicate that over September, the coalition’s PAC took in its smallest monthly total yet this year.

Our analysis of the fiscally conservative and increasingly influential Blue Dog Coalition and its funding noted that the group’s political action committee had averaged more than $176,000 in receipts from other PACs over the first half of 2009. Their monthly haul dropped to a surprisingly low $27,000 in July, rebounded somewhat in August, and but then dropped again to just $12,500 in September.

That September money came from just three donations — $5,000 from accounting and professional services giant Ernst & Young’s PAC, $2,500 from the Food Marketing Institute PAC, and $5,000 from the National Rifle Association of America Political Victory Fund.

After raising $1.1 million from January to June, the committee raised less than $87,000 between July and September — less than it brought in during any one of the preceding five months. And in just three months, the Blue Dog PAC’s monthly fundraising average dropped by more than $50,000 — probably not the sort of fiscal conservatism the 52-member coalition was hoping for.

Read more: http://www.publicintegrity.org/blog/stage/1735 /
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   Increasingly unpopular?  louis-t   Oct-27-09 01:22 PM   #1 
   BINGO!  TexasProgresive   Oct-27-09 03:43 PM   #21 
   difference?  katkat   Oct-27-09 04:01 PM   #28 
   In Texas the democratic party is more interested in not pissing off the rePIGS than doing anything t...  Vincardog   Oct-27-09 04:07 PM   #33 
   Amen....  AnneD   Oct-27-09 06:18 PM   #52 
   So are we in west Texas!  mbperrin   Oct-27-09 08:40 PM   #79 
   I like how you write like you know what true.  TexasProgresive   Oct-27-09 08:23 PM   #75 
      That's rude  varelse   Oct-27-09 09:37 PM   #89 
      It was true when I was a delegate to the TX state convention in 2000 and 2004  Vincardog   Oct-28-09 12:31 PM   #115 
   If there are more reps with D after their name then  TexasProgresive   Oct-27-09 08:21 PM   #74 
      Isn't it totally out of our control now? Or is this simply because Obama's being a wuss  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-27-09 09:23 PM   #86 
      "We have a semblance of control."  Le Taz Hot   Oct-28-09 07:22 AM   #101 
      Thats your opinion ....  Trajan   Oct-28-09 10:54 AM   #111 
   Why don't you tell us exactly what happens if a repuke in dems clothing gets replaced by a repuke  liberation   Oct-27-09 04:10 PM   #36 
   how about the supreme courrt?  Sebass1271   Oct-27-09 05:06 PM   #43 
      Leadership positions?  Igel   Oct-27-09 07:13 PM   #69 
      What causes are those?  mbperrin   Oct-27-09 08:41 PM   #80 
      What do the Blue Dogs support that makes them so unique and necessary anyway?  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-27-09 09:19 PM   #84 
         No money to those dogs  saigon68   Oct-28-09 05:55 AM   #100 
      At last  TexasProgresive   Oct-27-09 08:27 PM   #76 
   That's the kind of thinking that got us the horrible congress we have!  FiveGoodMen   Oct-27-09 06:02 PM   #49 
   I never used to be a "purist," but begging Blue Dogs to NOT fillibuster Dem bills  tblue   Oct-27-09 07:03 PM   #60 
   That about sums it up for me, too.  FiveGoodMen   Oct-27-09 07:06 PM   #62 
   They've been taking the progressive vote for granted for far too long. I know that we can make chang  Liberal_Stalwart71   Oct-28-09 09:12 AM   #106 
   Never Forget - I Won't!  theFrankFactor   Oct-27-09 08:17 PM   #73 
   right  katkat   Oct-27-09 09:15 PM   #82 
   Starting to agree, no reason to bend over backwards for these chumps  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-27-09 09:24 PM   #87 
      All that dry powder finally choking you guys up???  pocoloco   Oct-27-09 10:39 PM   #94 
   I agree, a "Democratic Majority" that blocks much of the Dems. major legislation is useless  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-27-09 09:21 PM   #85 
   Fuzzy thinking.  Hutzpa   Oct-27-09 06:39 PM   #57 
   We can't move a progressive genda forward with Blue Dogs' obstruction and betrayal  johnhkennedy   Oct-27-09 07:06 PM   #64 
   You won't get even a moderate agenda passed if these  TexasProgresive   Oct-27-09 08:32 PM   #78 
      I'm sincerely not trying to be coy, but...  YouTakeTheSkyway   Oct-27-09 09:27 PM   #88 
         I'm with you, YouTakeTheSkyWay, except that at this point I'm thinking they owe us  bertman   Oct-27-09 11:24 PM   #96 
   I disagree  Geek_Girl   Oct-28-09 07:36 AM   #102 
   Bingo Blue Cross dogs are preventing an opportunity for real positive change in these districts  Vincardog   Oct-28-09 12:36 PM   #116 
      Positive change to a Republican seat and minority party status  HughMoran   Oct-28-09 12:43 PM   #118 
         Allowing DINOs to run the Democratic party is a recipe for Republican rule.  Vincardog   Oct-28-09 01:54 PM   #121 
   Heh - don't try to explain what having Republicans in charge of Congress would do to us  HughMoran   Oct-28-09 12:40 PM   #117 
      What value is being the Majority party if no to implement Progressive policies? The PARTY is not  Vincardog   Oct-28-09 01:57 PM   #122 
         Good luck getting our Progressive agenda through a Republican Congress  HughMoran   Oct-28-09 04:15 PM   #123 
   I thought it was weird that the article called them "increasingly influential."  intheflow   Oct-27-09 05:23 PM   #45 
   May they all sink like the Titanic. Hope they have opponents in their primaries!  tblue   Oct-27-09 07:12 PM   #68 
   That's my question. Did their contributions decline because Republicans are getting more in response  Liberal_Stalwart71   Oct-28-09 09:07 AM   #105 
   This just encourages them to get more money from Mom and Dad  mikelgb   Oct-27-09 01:23 PM   #2 
   Oh, I thought you meant Sen. Ensign's parents.  damntexdem   Oct-27-09 01:32 PM   #5 
   Maybe Democrats are starting to realize how harmful they really are  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Oct-27-09 01:27 PM   #3 
   Purity testing is what got the Republicans where they are today.  TheWraith   Oct-27-09 02:45 PM   #10 
   I really can't see the difference between the two.  davidwparker   Oct-27-09 03:14 PM   #14 
   Then compare Richard Burr and Kay Hagan  Alcibiades   Oct-27-09 03:35 PM   #18 
   No the worst Blue Dog is exactly the same as the best Republican.  Vincardog   Oct-27-09 03:41 PM   #20 
   You must always realize  BonnieJW   Oct-27-09 04:02 PM   #29 
      The minority can do that when the Majority allows them to. Remember 2001 - 2008? not so much  Vincardog   Oct-27-09 04:04 PM   #30 
      It's Not Funny At All. It's Fucking Tragic.  Toasterlad   Oct-27-09 05:00 PM   #42 
      but they do everything the republicans want  Horse with no Name   Oct-27-09 06:22 PM   #54 
      They can't conceive of such an OBVIOUS disaster their thinking results in  HughMoran   Oct-28-09 12:44 PM   #119 
         It wasn't a disaster for the repukes  Yuugal   Oct-28-09 01:09 PM   #120 
   The advantage of a Blue Dog over a Repub is chairing committees when you're the majority party.  bulloney   Oct-27-09 04:56 PM   #40 
   "What Got the Republicans Where They Are Today?"  Toasterlad   Oct-27-09 04:57 PM   #41 
   If it's true that 20 Bluedogs are from districts that voted for Obama...  Umbral   Oct-27-09 05:15 PM   #44 
   This Is Not Purity Testing--This Is Accountability  Demeter   Oct-28-09 09:56 AM   #108 
   Yeah. Harmful to the tune of 45,000 deaths a year. nt  tblue   Oct-27-09 07:04 PM   #61 
   Glad to see the good old NRA in there working to support the American people.  AndyA   Oct-27-09 01:27 PM   #4 
   Great news! Hope it continues!  mod mom   Oct-27-09 01:33 PM   #6 
   Sign the petition on democrats.com - no fundraising $$ for those against public option  SandWalker1984   Oct-27-09 01:38 PM   #7 
   Signed K & R  Vincardog   Oct-27-09 03:47 PM   #22 
   Send them pictures of Alan Grayson  izquierdista   Oct-27-09 01:51 PM   #8 
   Fecal conservatives  formercia   Oct-27-09 02:45 PM   #9 
   LOL! I want to steal that one.  ChairmanAgnostic   Oct-27-09 04:07 PM   #34 
      Go for it.  formercia   Oct-27-09 06:17 PM   #51 
   Love to see the already diminished support for Conservatives  Beavker   Oct-27-09 02:46 PM   #11 
   they will learn  fauxnewsSUCKKKS   Oct-27-09 02:55 PM   #12 
   Welcome to DU  davidwparker   Oct-27-09 03:14 PM   #15 
   Best. Username. EVER!  intheflow   Oct-27-09 05:24 PM   #46 
   Note to Blue Dogs  gratuitous   Oct-27-09 03:13 PM   #13 
   Fiscal Conservatism is all about getting the most bang for your buck.  Ironman3476   Oct-27-09 03:18 PM   #16 
   Lol! Write them all and tell them your new policy of fiscal conservatism  laughingliberal   Oct-27-09 04:04 PM   #31 
   Goodbye "Reagan Republicans" and "Pumas."  RUMMYisFROSTED   Oct-27-09 03:29 PM   #17 
   "Reagan Democrats" we used to call them. Never much cared for 'em. nt  tblue   Oct-27-09 07:06 PM   #63 
   Where is the health insurance industry?  Alcibiades   Oct-27-09 03:37 PM   #19 
   I won't give.  Oerdin   Oct-27-09 03:49 PM   #23 
   Here's the list.  Oerdin   Oct-27-09 03:52 PM   #24 
   enemies of the party indeed. n/t  whopis01   Oct-27-09 03:55 PM   #26 
   Had a call from the Dem Senatorial Comm.  shirlden   Oct-27-09 07:00 PM   #59 
   "corporate" dogs as Thom Hartmann calls them....  nightrain   Oct-27-09 03:52 PM   #25 
   AWESOME. Fuck those rightwing douchebags.  Zhade   Oct-27-09 03:57 PM   #27 
   They should love the Public Option--it saves money  Kingofalldems   Oct-27-09 04:05 PM   #32 
   just a mo  katkat   Oct-27-09 04:08 PM   #35 
   And, the DNC shouldn't be supporting them either --  defendandprotect   Oct-27-09 04:28 PM   #37 
   Obama replaced a fairly progressive leader with Tom Kaine. To me, this suggests  Liberal_Stalwart71   Oct-28-09 09:17 AM   #107 
      Perhaps the time is coming when that's changing . . . Greider and Michael Moore . . .  defendandprotect   Oct-29-09 01:25 AM   #124 
   Thank you -- signed the petition -- !!  defendandprotect   Oct-27-09 04:34 PM   #38 
   Yaaaaaaaah!!!!  butterfly77   Oct-27-09 04:42 PM   #39 
   Oh, dear. How sad. Tsk-tsk-tsk.  TygrBrightDU Moderator   Oct-27-09 05:24 PM   #47 
   Next - Out of Congress!  dpbrown   Oct-27-09 05:30 PM   #48 
   I have a steady job and am doing well......  AnneD   Oct-27-09 06:15 PM   #50 
   I got yer MANDATE right here!  Horse with no Name   Oct-27-09 06:20 PM   #53 
   Fair value received for poor performance in the public interest.  ezdidit   Oct-27-09 06:34 PM   #55 
   Am I supposed to cry? Hold on, let me get the Vicks.  AllyCat   Oct-27-09 06:39 PM   #56 
   Take that! That'll teach 'um to fool with mother  ooglymoogly   Oct-27-09 06:54 PM   #58 
   But they should keep listening to Faux News & CNN for what the public wants n/t  ejbr   Oct-27-09 07:07 PM   #65 
   But they will more than make up from it in Medical Industrial Complex donations  McCamy Taylor   Oct-27-09 07:08 PM   #66 
   Republicans are better than blue dogs.  DireStrike   Oct-27-09 07:11 PM   #67 
   I see it as blackmail. Either vote No or NO $$'s.  bluesmail   Oct-27-09 07:42 PM   #70 
   Is the orchestra ready?  marmar   Oct-27-09 07:47 PM   #71 
   The Blue Dogs have a PAC?  Arkana   Oct-27-09 07:57 PM   #72 
   That's a shame.  geckosfeet   Oct-27-09 08:30 PM   #77 
   This just breaks my heart.  dhpgetsit   Oct-27-09 08:42 PM   #81 
   That's what happens when people finally figure out you suck...  rasputin1952DU Moderator   Oct-27-09 09:18 PM   #83 
   Hit them in the pocketbook, that's the only thing they understand  graywarrior   Oct-27-09 09:39 PM   #90 
   Well people are waking up to their bullcrappy....and there is a lot of talk of strikes  winyanstaz   Oct-27-09 09:41 PM   #91 
   CAN YOU HEAR US NOW?????? n/t  humbled_opinion   Oct-27-09 09:52 PM   #92 
   K&R #100  pleah   Oct-27-09 10:07 PM   #93 
   I can't wait to politically neuter the Blue Dogs in 2010!  Crowman1979   Oct-27-09 10:47 PM   #95 
   Why give money to politicians who'll be out of office in 2011?  depakid   Oct-27-09 11:29 PM   #97 
   GOOD!! n/t  madmax   Oct-28-09 04:04 AM   #98 
   Good  Hubert Flottz   Oct-28-09 05:48 AM   #99 
   K&R  Vidar   Oct-28-09 08:08 AM   #103 
   the National Rifle Association of America Political Victory Fund gave him 5k  rpannier   Oct-28-09 09:05 AM   #104 
   This warms my heart. Maybe it will lead to a purge of the  tekisui   Oct-28-09 09:57 AM   #109 
   Blue Dogs real source of power and funding  BruceK09   Oct-28-09 10:33 AM   #110 
   Welcome to DU  newspeak   Oct-28-09 11:21 AM   #114 
   GREAT NEWS!  beac   Oct-28-09 10:54 AM   #112 
   Here's a list of BlueDogPAC members, in case anyone wants to call their rep and give them a hearty  beac   Oct-28-09 10:57 AM   #113 
 
louis-t (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 01:22 PM
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1. Increasingly unpopular?
Or maybe the conservative dollar is going to repugs now.
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TexasProgresive (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 03:43 PM
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21. BINGO!
These "Blue Dogs" are conservative Democrats because for the most part that is the only kind that could get elected in these districts. If these seats turn to Pukes it will be bad news. As bad as these guys are it is better to have a D behind their name. All those who want to get rid of them should think about the problems if they are replaced by Pukes.
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katkat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 04:01 PM
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28. difference?
Bingo, perhaps you could explain to me the difference between a blue dog and a republican, because I am not seeing any. Better rats are called rats than Democrats.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 04:07 PM
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33. In Texas the democratic party is more interested in not pissing off the rePIGS than doing anything t...
Edited on Tue Oct-27-09 04:08 PM by Vincardog
help the people.
Hence you get all these apologists for DINO's and resistance for any real progressive actions.
You get the party over policy Politicians like Rahm Emanuel. :puke:

It is the battered wife syndrome gone politic
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AnneD (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 06:18 PM
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52. Amen....
and here in Houston, we're sick of it.
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 08:40 PM
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79. So are we in west Texas!
nt
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TexasProgresive (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 08:23 PM
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75. I like how you write like you know what true.
Perhaps you should get a job with the M$M- maybe FAUX is hiring.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Oct-27-09 09:37 PM
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89. That's rude
you're both stating what you believe to be true. There is no need to insult the other poster.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 12:31 PM
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115. It was true when I was a delegate to the TX state convention in 2000 and 2004
Both times I moved to bring a Medical Marijuana support plank to the platform committee. Both time the State Party Offs didn't want us to be labeled crazy pot smokers and refused to let it come to a vote. This is in spite of overwhelming support. You explain it.
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TexasProgresive (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 08:21 PM
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74. If there are more reps with D after their name then
we have at least a semblance of control- if there are more with R then it is totally out of our control.
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 09:23 PM
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86. Isn't it totally out of our control now? Or is this simply because Obama's being a wuss
and focusing more on appearing bipartisan than on getting stuff done?
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 07:22 AM
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101. "We have a semblance of control."
That was cute. :rofl:
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 10:54 AM
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111. Thats your opinion ....
Your rudeness is a stone cold fact ...
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liberation (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 04:10 PM
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36. Why don't you tell us exactly what happens if a repuke in dems clothing gets replaced by a repuke
in repukes get up.

Talk about placebo effect...
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Sebass1271 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 05:06 PM
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43. how about the supreme courrt?
civil liberties?
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Igel (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 07:13 PM
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69. Leadership positions?
The dem causes that Blue Dogs *do* support?

There's a bit much of the "If you're not with us you're against us" attitude involved, me thinks.
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 08:41 PM
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80. What causes are those?
Same sex marriage? End both wars now? Single payer universal?
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 09:19 PM
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84. What do the Blue Dogs support that makes them so unique and necessary anyway?
They oppose a public option, oppose abortion, are hostile to gay rights. What are we keeping these suckers around for? I'm not wasting my money contributing to them...
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 05:55 AM
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100. No money to those dogs
They will be eaten alive by the hateful pukes.

they are worthless, it doesn't matter how far right they go, the beck, oxyman, machine is going to grind them up in nov 2010
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TexasProgresive (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 08:27 PM
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76. At last
someone gets it!!! Thank you.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Oct-27-09 06:02 PM
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49. That's the kind of thinking that got us the horrible congress we have!
They know the left has nowhere to go. So they'll never listen at all.

They go farther and farther to the right, confident that someone like you will pave the way for them.

The only chance of getting our country back -- EVER! -- is if we tell the bad ones to go fuck themselves no matter what.

That or the abyss.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 07:03 PM
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60. I never used to be a "purist," but begging Blue Dogs to NOT fillibuster Dem bills
has pushed me over the edge. Kucinich people, I salute you. You were right all along.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Oct-27-09 07:06 PM
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62. That about sums it up for me, too.
There is just no limit to how far right everyone (including Dems) will move if we let them.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Oct-28-09 09:12 AM
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106. They've been taking the progressive vote for granted for far too long. I know that we can make chang
because Dick Durbin admitted that it was the progressives that stood up to the Blue Dogs on the public option deal. We weren't accepting anything less. The public option *is* the compromise when single payer wasn't even considered.

I blame Rahmbo and Obama, too. I need the president to start acting like a leader and stop behaving like a senator.
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 08:17 PM
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73. Never Forget - I Won't!
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katkat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #60
82. right
I was never a purist either until now, but we have a Democratic President and theoretically a Democratic Congress and 5% of what should be getting done under those circumstances is getting done. Throw the repigs in Democratic clothing out.
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 09:24 PM
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87. Starting to agree, no reason to bend over backwards for these chumps
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 10:39 PM
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94. All that dry powder finally choking you guys up???
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 09:21 PM
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85. I agree, a "Democratic Majority" that blocks much of the Dems. major legislation is useless
The umbrella got too big.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 06:39 PM
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57. Fuzzy thinking.

:puke:
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johnhkennedy Donating Member (28 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 07:06 PM
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64. We can't move a progressive genda forward with Blue Dogs' obstruction and betrayal
The Blue Dogs get campaign money from the national office. That money comes from all of we Democrats. We surely get a voice regarding who it goes to. It Blue Dogs consistently vote with republicans they should join the GOP. Better we don't kid ourselves about our associates loyalty.

SIGN the PETITION
calling for Torture Prosecution
at
http://ANGRYVOTERS.org

.
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TexasProgresive (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 08:32 PM
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78. You won't get even a moderate agenda passed if these
"blue dogs" lose out to Repukes! Why don't you vote against them and just vote Repuke?
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 09:27 PM
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88. I'm sincerely not trying to be coy, but...
this is something I need to see to believe. As far as I'm concerned, the Blue Dogs owe us a huge show of good faith on SOME issue. So far, I haven't seen it.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Oct-27-09 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #88
96. I'm with you, YouTakeTheSkyWay, except that at this point I'm thinking they owe us
show of faith SO HUGE that it might be an impossible feat.

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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 07:36 AM
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102. I disagree
Edited on Wed Oct-28-09 07:36 AM by Geek_Girl
I think by keeping the Blue Dogs in power, just because we're worried about the district going red,doesn't solve anything. Basically they are repukes in disguise and there is no difference. By keeping them in office and not throwing full support behind more progressive Dems, we are preventing an opportunity for real positive change in these districts.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 12:36 PM
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116. Bingo Blue Cross dogs are preventing an opportunity for real positive change in these districts
AND EVERYWHERE ELSE
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 12:43 PM
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118. Positive change to a Republican seat and minority party status
Your words sound good in theory, in reality it's a recipe for Republican rule.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 01:54 PM
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121. Allowing DINOs to run the Democratic party is a recipe for Republican rule.
IF they want to govern as rePUKES let them run as Publicans.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 12:40 PM
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117. Heh - don't try to explain what having Republicans in charge of Congress would do to us
Edited on Wed Oct-28-09 12:41 PM by HughMoran
These people only care about purity tests. Being the minority party again - bah! minor detail!
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 01:57 PM
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122. What value is being the Majority party if no to implement Progressive policies? The PARTY is not
more important than the POLICIES.
I do not want a Democratic party majority that passes rePUBLICAN policies.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 04:15 PM
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123. Good luck getting our Progressive agenda through a Republican Congress
Do you not realize that we are a 'coalition' government even though we 'appear' to have 2 parties? We have to have some of these moderates from red states to even have a majority. Think about it - no matter how much I and you would like to have a pure progressive party, it's just not going to happen in our lifetimes probably. I'm thrilled that we even have a chance to pass a healthcare bill with a public option. If that's not progress, I don't know what is.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 05:23 PM
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45. I thought it was weird that the article called them "increasingly influential."
I'd say these numbers belie a trend toward less influence, not more. Your glory days of Clinton Corporatism are over, Blue Dog Dems!!
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 07:12 PM
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68. May they all sink like the Titanic. Hope they have opponents in their primaries!
This whole maneuver us about saving their political skin, and it backfired big time! Ha ha. I think we should call their offices just to laugh at their demise, drive the final stake in their opposition to true health insurance reform.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Oct-28-09 09:07 AM
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105. That's my question. Did their contributions decline because Republicans are getting more in response
to dislike of Democratic/Obama's policies? Or, did their contributions go down because Democrats like us stop giving to them due to their lack of spine?

For me, this isn't good news because they may now turn more rightward, thinking that they need to in order to win reelection, rather than join our agenda.
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mikelgb (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 01:23 PM
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2. This just encourages them to get more money from Mom and Dad
Mom = Insurance industry
Dad = Defense industry
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damntexdem (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 01:32 PM
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5. Oh, I thought you meant Sen. Ensign's parents.
;-)

I guess that's just for Harry Reid, then.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Oct-27-09 01:27 PM
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3. Maybe Democrats are starting to realize how harmful they really are
to Democratic goals. If people want Republicans, let them vote for the real ones, not the ones infiltrating the Democratic Party.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 02:45 PM
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10. Purity testing is what got the Republicans where they are today.
Never forget that the worst Blue Dog is still better than the best Republican.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 03:14 PM
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14. I really can't see the difference between the two.
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 03:35 PM
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18. Then compare Richard Burr and Kay Hagan
NC has a Republican and a blue dog. I'd gladly trade a Burr for another Hagan (someone who has been a continual disappointment for NC Dems).
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 03:41 PM
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20. No the worst Blue Dog is exactly the same as the best Republican.
Do we need more democrats like lieBERman?
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 04:02 PM
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29. You must always realize
that a repub majority means they chair all the committees and they push through all the garbage legislation and hold back all the good stuff. Isn't it funny how they can do that even when they are in the minority?
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 04:04 PM
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30. The minority can do that when the Majority allows them to. Remember 2001 - 2008? not so much
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 05:00 PM
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42. It's Not Funny At All. It's Fucking Tragic.Updated at 3:56 PM
And it proves that a DINO is just as bad - if not worse - than any republican.

We don't HAVE a majority as long as those people are in office. Don't you people understand that?
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 06:22 PM
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54. but they do everything the republicans want
Circular logic.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 12:44 PM
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119. They can't conceive of such an OBVIOUS disaster their thinking results in
Edited on Wed Oct-28-09 12:45 PM by HughMoran
These people are purists who would have Republicans in control again on 'principal'.

:eyes:
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 01:09 PM
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120. It wasn't a disaster for the repukes
They had congress for 12 years and bush for 8. The way the neocons took over their party was by not voting for moderates or rather, RINO's. It cost them the majority for a time but in the end we have a 2 party system and it always switches back and forth. If we give them back power it will be worth it in the long run if we keep the progressives and ditch the DINO's, hoping at a later date to replace those people with real dems. Eventually the repukes will screw themselves out of office and people will once again be looking for real change and this time maybe they will get it rather than the corporate lite version of the one true party that runs this country.

I'm already living through disaster. Health care is going nowhere fast, two wars raging, trillions for rich banks but still not review of nafta or gay rights or EFCA or any US jobs. Just more H1-B's and nice speeches. The old "the left better stick with us or things would be much much worse" argument just doesn't fly anymore. Things are still epic fail. We need real dems and the only way to get them is to get rid of the corporate placeholders. If that means we lose some or all of our majority, just look at what the repukes can do with a determined minority, then look at how little our majority can get done. Being in power has got us zilch so far.

The disaster for the pukes came because their ideas are flawed and they inevitably screw themselves out of office. If we could provide real progressive change we could stay in power for decades.
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bulloney (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 04:56 PM
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40. The advantage of a Blue Dog over a Repub is chairing committees when you're the majority party.
Even if they're DINOs, the Democrats have the advantage of chairing committees and appointing their people.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 04:57 PM
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41. "What Got the Republicans Where They Are Today?"Updated at 3:56 PM
Edited on Tue Oct-27-09 05:02 PM by Toasterlad
Disgraced, disorganized, and leaderless? A party that should be easy pickings for a progressive government, if that government had any true progressives in it?

In what way is the worst Blue Dog better than the best Republican? There are Republicans out there (albeit, few) who would vote for gay equality. I would vote for them in a heartbeat over any DINO.

Voting for anything with a D after it's name, and never stopping to examine what it stood for is what got this COUNTRY where it is today: at the bottom of a pit full of shit.

Just what exactly is your point supposed to be?
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Umbral (553 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 05:15 PM
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44. If it's true that 20 Bluedogs are from districts that voted for Obama...
then 20 of those Bluedogs can be replaced with Democrats. Also, a coalition of 32 Bluedogs doesn't have the power to compel flatulence after a chili dinner.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 09:56 AM
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108. This Is Not Purity Testing--This Is AccountabilityUpdated at 6:24 AM
Even Blue Dog Democrats are accountable to the voters who put them in office--and the voters are pissed off big time over far too many issues for the status to stay quo. Hence the lack of financial support, and it will only get worse. As it should.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 07:04 PM
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61. Yeah. Harmful to the tune of 45,000 deaths a year. nt
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 01:27 PM
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4. Glad to see the good old NRA in there working to support the American people.
Can't have them get health care, now, can we? :eyes:

This should be a message to the Blue Dogs: WE PICK who gets our donations, and until you start representing us, you're going to be left out in the cold.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 01:33 PM
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6. Great news! Hope it continues!
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SandWalker1984 (434 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 01:38 PM
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7. Sign the petition on democrats.com - no fundraising $$ for those against public option
I found this article and petition on democrats.com urging everyone to say no to Democratic fundraising for any member of Congress that votes against a robust public option:


After months of debate, an overwhelming majority of Americans support a "robust public option" similar to Medicare.

And thanks to the heroic efforts of progressive activists, we have almost enough votes in the Senate and House to pass it.

The Democratic majorities in the Senate (60/40) and the House (258/177) are large enough to pass a "public option" even with no Republican support. But a handful of conservative "Democrats" are blocking the will of the Democratic majority.

These conservative "Democrats" refuse to listen to the Democratic voters who elected them. That means it's up to our Democratic leaders - Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and President Obama - to persuade them.

We will not accept a weak public option or worse, a "trigger." We want a robust public option (based on Medicare rates, not negotiated rates) that is nation-wide (with no state opt-outs), administered by Medicare (not a for-profit insurance company) and available immediately.

That is why we are joining together in a Democratic donor strike against the DNC, DSCC, and DCCC until the Democratic Congress passes - and President Obama signs - healthcare reform with a robust public option. Until then, we will only donate to individual Democrats who will truly fight for us.

Petition
To: Gov. Tim Kaine, Chair, Democratic National Committee (DNC)
Sen. Bob Menendez, Chair, Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC)
Rep. Chris Van Hollen, Chair, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC)

I write to inform you that I am joining the Democratic Donor Strike against the DNC, DSCC and DCCC, which will last until the Democratic Congress passes - and President Obama signs - healthcare reform with a robust public option:

based on Medicare rates, not negotiated rates
nation-wide, with no state opt-outs
administered by Medicare, not a for-profit insurance company
available immediately

Until then, I will only support individual Democrats who support single-payer Medicare for All (the 88 sponsors of HR 676), or (at a minimum) pledge to vote against a bill without a strong public option. I will also support challengers who support Healthcare Not Warfare.

We elected solid Democratic majorities in Congress and a Democratic President to fulfill Democratic promises of progressive change. We did not elect Republican Senator Olympia Snowe to break those promises.

And if a small number of corporate-funded Democrats in the Senate

and House stand in the way, it is the job of our leaders - Harry

Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and President Obama - to persuade those Democrats to stand with the party that elected them. Even "fiscally conservative" Democrats have absolutely no excuse for voting against a robust public option, because CBO says it will save $110 billion.

So if I receive a fundraising email from the DNC, DSCC or DCCC, I will reply with a link to this petition. If I receive a fundraising call, I will tell the caller about this petition. If I receive a fundraising letter, I will return the envelope with a link to this petition:

http://www.democrats.com/donor-strike-for-public-option

We desperately need real health reform, starting with a robust public option. Until you deliver on your promises of change, I will reserve my contributions for individual Democrats who will truly fight for what we all believe.

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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 03:47 PM
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22. Signed K & R
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izquierdista (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 01:51 PM
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8. Send them pictures of Alan Grayson
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 02:45 PM
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9. Fecal conservatives
Anal retentive.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 04:07 PM
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34. LOL! I want to steal that one.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 06:17 PM
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51. Go for it.
:rofl:
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Beavker (420 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 02:46 PM
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11. Love to see the already diminished support for Conservatives
being split between the Blue Dicks and the Repugs. Take the scraps from the those bigotted, right wing, hypocrital, hate mongering organizations. As long as we can inform the public who owns these Blue Dogs, Dems will turn their back on them in shame. They may vote for the repuke, as I would as a Nebraska Dem, but I don't care. They need to switch sides then and quit lying to the Democrats of this country.
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fauxnewsSUCKKKS (24 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 02:55 PM
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12. they will learn
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 03:14 PM
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15. Welcome to DU
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 05:24 PM
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46. Best. Username. EVER!
:rofl:

Welcome to DU! :hi:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 03:13 PM
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13. Note to Blue Dogs
When presented with a choice between a real Republican and an ersatz one, folks will choose the real one. You want to start fundraising like the Democrats? Start voting as if you're part of the caucus.
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Ironman3476 (81 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 03:18 PM
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16. Fiscal Conservatism is all about getting the most bang for your buck.
Therefore ,the Blue Dogs don't need much money. Throwing vast amounts of cash at things just goes against their grain.
So, please continue to support them by not sending any money.
Thank you for your support.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 04:04 PM
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31. Lol! Write them all and tell them your new policy of fiscal conservatism
prevents your donating to legislators who don't work in your best interests.
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 03:29 PM
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17. Goodbye "Reagan Republicans" and "Pumas."
:woohoo:
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 07:06 PM
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63. "Reagan Democrats" we used to call them. Never much cared for 'em. nt
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 03:37 PM
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19. Where is the health insurance industry?
The Blue Dogs have their back--why don't they follow through with the quo part of the quid pro quo?
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Oerdin (941 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 03:49 PM
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23. I won't give.
Edited on Tue Oct-27-09 03:51 PM by Oerdin
Not only will I not donate to any blue dog but I urge every I know not to give time or money to those traitors. In fact if the DNC continues to give money and support to the traitors then I will not give any money to the DNC either. I want real progressives and only real progressives to be elected. If someone calls them selves a Democrat but sides with Republicans on the party's signature issue of health care then they're black listed. Every last one of the bastards.
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Oerdin (941 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 03:52 PM
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24. Here's the list.
Everyone of these traitorious bastards needs to be primaried or at least kicked out of the party. They are enemies of the American people and fight against real health care reform.

* Jason Altmire (PA-4)
* Mike Arcuri (NY-24)
* Joe Baca (CA-43)
* John Barrow (GA-12)
* Melissa Bean (IL-8)
* Marion Berry (AR-1)
* Sanford Bishop (GA-2)
* Dan Boren (OK-2)
* Leonard Boswell (IA-3)
* Allen Boyd (FL-2)
* Bobby Bright (AL-2)
* Dennis Cardoza (CA-18)
* Christopher Carney (PA-10)
* Ben Chandler (KY-6)
* Travis Childers (MS-1)
* Jim Cooper (TN-5)
* Jim Costa (CA-20)
* Henry Cuellar (TX-28)
* Kathy Dahlkemper (PA-3)
* Lincoln Davis (TN-4)
* Joe Donnelly (IN-2)
* Brad Ellsworth (IN-8)
* Bill Foster (IL-14)
* Gabrielle Giffords (AZ-8)
* Bart Gordon (TN-6)
* Parker Griffith (AL-5)
* Jane Harman (CA-36)
* Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (SD-AL), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Administration
* Baron Hill (IN-9), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Policy
* Tim Holden (PA-17)
* Frank Kratovil (MD-1)
* Jim Marshall (GA-8)
* Jim Matheson (UT-2)
* Mike McIntyre (NC-7)
* Charlie Melancon (LA-3), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Communications
* Mike Michaud (ME-2)
* Walt Minnick (ID-1)
* Dennis Moore (KS-3)
* Patrick Murphy (PA-8)
* Glenn Nye (VA-2)
* Collin Peterson (MN-7)
* Earl Pomeroy (ND-AL)
* Mike Ross (AR-4)
* John Salazar (CO-3)
* Loretta Sanchez (CA-47)
* Adam Schiff (CA-29)
* David Scott (GA-13)
* Heath Shuler (NC-11), Blue Dog Whip
* Zack Space (OH-18)
* John Tanner (TN-8)
* Gene Taylor (MS-4)
* Mike Thompson (CA-1)
* Charlie Wilson (OH-6)
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whopis01 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 03:55 PM
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26. enemies of the party indeed. n/t
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shirlden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 07:00 PM
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59. Had a call from the Dem Senatorial Comm.
yesterday. Looking for donations. I asked the nice lady if she could guarantee that none of my money would be used for electing Blue Dogs? She tried to dance around a straight answer so I told her I would only give to individual candidates. She kept dancing, so I did something I have never ever done before. I hung up on her. Rude, I know, but they need to get the message.

:argh:
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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 03:52 PM
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25. "corporate" dogs as Thom Hartmann calls them....
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 03:57 PM
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27. AWESOME. Fuck those rightwing douchebags.
NT!

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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 04:05 PM
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32. They should love the Public Option--it saves money
Just what the blue dogs say they want. I don't understand. :shrug: :shrug:
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katkat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 04:08 PM
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35. just a mo
That petition says "administered by Medicare (not a for-profit insurance company)."

It became apparent on another thread that people not on Medicare don't have much of a clue about how it works. I am not talking about the Medicare Advantage plans here, which are a ripoff of the taxpayer courtesy of Repigs/Blue dogs, but rather plain old Medicare and Medigap.

Medicare + Medigap = the services/benefits of Medicare Advantage, without the insurance companies making an extra profit.

As far as I know the Medigap policies ARE all administered by insurance companies. Sure Medicare watches over them and apparently keeps them in line, but a petition founded on ignorance isn't going to impress many people.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 04:28 PM
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37. And, the DNC shouldn't be supporting them either --
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Wed Oct-28-09 09:17 AM
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107. Obama replaced a fairly progressive leader with Tom Kaine. To me, this suggests
that he's giving a big "fuck you" to progressives. The moderates always believe that no matter how angry we get, we'll reason that it's better to have the Blue Dogs and DLCers in charge than Republicans. But I see no difference. We still got the illegal Iraqi invasion. We still ran up the deficit. George "Dumbya" Bush got everything he wanted and none of these Blue Dogs and DLCers said a word about the fucking deficit. Now all of the sudden, they are concerned about spending and deficits? Where the fuck were they during Dumbya's tenure? They were busy kissing Repuke ass and being wimps!!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Oct-29-09 01:25 AM
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124. Perhaps the time is coming when that's changing . . . Greider and Michael Moore . . .
can put it out there -- "we're not going to support blue dogs or DLC" ---

and I think some of them have realized they might have to listen.

It's always made sense to me --- I'm sure we could find another Democrat now

to oppose Lieberman . . . someone truly liberal/progressive.

We have to get the DLC out of the White House --

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 04:34 PM
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38. Thank you -- signed the petition -- !!
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 04:42 PM
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39. Yaaaaaaaah!!!!
now were talking!!!
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TygrBright DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 05:24 PM
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47. Oh, dear. How sad. Tsk-tsk-tsk.
Guess Americans might not be so interested in GOPpie-Lite representation after all, huh?

primly,
Bright
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 05:30 PM
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48. Next - Out of Congress!

If you want to represent someone, then represent the people!

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AnneD (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 06:15 PM
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50. I have a steady job and am doing well......
unlike many other middle class folks. I worked over time to get money to donate to candidates. I figured they would work as hard for me as I did for them (I block walked and phone banked too).

Well, they made an ass out of me and continue to work for the Financial Sector, Banks and Insurance Co. My Great Grand children have been sold into economic slavery, my retirement dollar is on track to be equal to the Zimbabwe dollar, and YOU expect me to give you more money......

A BIG HEARTY FUCK YOU!!!!!! I voted for a change and that's all I got....change. That is what I have been writing on all those pledge notices you send to me.

My money goes to where it can help those people you have been so intent on destroying, to food pantries, soup kitchens, good deeds, scholarships for needy students.

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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 06:20 PM
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53. I got yer MANDATE right here!
Edited on Tue Oct-27-09 06:22 PM by Horse with no Name
What don't they understand??
These "periwinkle pups" are NOT mainstream America. They just are not.
They don't represent the values.
Money talks.
I hope Obama is paying attention to what it is saying..lest he lose his own mandate.
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ezdidit (47 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 06:34 PM
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55. Fair value received for poor performance in the public interest.
Blue Dogs deserve to be primaried and absolutely gone from the caucus. Progress will continue by fits and starts. The public suffering is simply too great. It will soon be time for their reckoning.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 06:39 PM
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56. Am I supposed to cry? Hold on, let me get the Vicks.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Oct-27-09 06:54 PM
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58. Take that! That'll teach 'um to fool with mother
progressive.
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Oct-27-09 07:07 PM
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65. But they should keep listening to Faux News & CNN for what the public wants n/t
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 07:08 PM
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66. But they will more than make up from it in Medical Industrial Complex donations
I am sure.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 07:11 PM
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67. Republicans are better than blue dogs.
At least we have a chance to get it right next election. You cannot unseat an incumbent with a primary challenger.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Oct-27-09 07:42 PM
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70. I see it as blackmail. Either vote No or NO $$'s.
Filibuster or obstruct in a non superficial way.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 07:47 PM
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71. Is the orchestra ready?Updated at 8:14 AM
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 07:57 PM
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72. The Blue Dogs have a PAC?
What's it called? The "Shit On America Foundation For 'Progress'"?
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 08:30 PM
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77. That's a shame.
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dhpgetsit (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 08:42 PM
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81. This just breaks my heart.
:nopity:
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rasputin1952 DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Oct-27-09 09:18 PM
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83. That's what happens when people finally figure out you suck...
The sanctimonious fall faster than others.

Recently, I wrote Ben Nelson I expected a check from him, w/interest, for all of the crap he made Nebraskans go through
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 09:39 PM
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90. Hit them in the pocketbook, that's the only thing they understand
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 09:41 PM
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91. Well people are waking up to their bullcrappy....and there is a lot of talk of strikes
Edited on Tue Oct-27-09 09:50 PM by winyanstaz
on corporations that are screwing the people over.
Right now that is the last thing we need because of the state of our economy...but it may be there will be no choices left.
Let's hope this takes off and more large companies wake up and smell the boycotts that could be headed their way.
Sometimes you can't beat the big monster in hand to hand combat but you can ALWAYS starve it.
Here are some new signs we might want to put up on all the highways and park entrances... ;)

DANGER!!! PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE CORPORATIONS!

BEWARE!!! WHEN BANKS GET BIG THEY TURN ON YOU!

WARNING!!!!! CONGRESS IS DANGERIOUS AND THEY BITE THE HANDS THAT FEED THEM!

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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 09:52 PM
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92. CAN YOU HEAR US NOW?????? n/t
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 10:07 PM
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93. K&R #100
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Crowman1979 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 10:47 PM
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95. I can't wait to politically neuter the Blue Dogs in 2010!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Oct-27-09 11:29 PM
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97. Why give money to politicians who'll be out of office in 2011?
Edited on Tue Oct-27-09 11:29 PM by depakid
:shrug:
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 04:04 AM
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98. GOOD!! n/t
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 05:48 AM
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99. Good
I hope they all get a taste of unemployment...
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 08:08 AM
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103. K&R
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 09:05 AM
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104. the National Rifle Association of America Political Victory Fund gave him 5k
The NRA must be planning for a small victory
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 09:57 AM
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109. This warms my heart. Maybe it will lead to a purge of the Updated at 3:19 PM
conservatives from Our party.I don't care if we lose the majority, even. The liberals who funded them and knocked on doors to get them elected see now that they are ineffective and unwilling to represent those who elected them.

They may have gotten a few percentage points from repuke voters or indys, but the activists were liberals, and they have lost us.

So long blue mutts, the experiment was a failure.
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BruceK09 (1 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 10:33 AM
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110. Blue Dogs real source of power and funding
It couldn't happen to a more deserving pack of dogs, especially Droopy. However, it will not hurt them.

They derive most of their power and access to funding through Douglas Coe and the Family, the same people who run your government and your world from behind the scenes for seven decades.

If you care to know who is running both major political parties, and your life, look them up.

Since they do this from behind the skirts of girly-man politicians like Joe "Droopy the Blue Dog" Lieberman, and everyone else with any power in Washington, while cloaking it all in a fantasy-comics Jesus they invented for their own power and enrichment, they are near impossible to stop, like an insect infestation.

The best method for exposing these types of cockroaches is to turn the light on them, and watch them scurry.

Here is the light I am turning on: Douglas Coe for President 2012.

Rather than continuing to let him run America though both parties from a closet, including Barak Obama and Hilary Clinton, run him for public office and watch him wither and die like the vampire cockroach that he is.

Start the campaign now, before the wizened old insect passes into his own just reward, and leaves a new leadership more underground than currently.

They run it now from their closet, without accountability.

Drive them into the open scrutiny of public office, and deprive them of their cover from the shills they put in office to front for them.

They will wither and die like the vampire cockroaches they are, and the survivors will scurry back to their crooked corporations and phony god-bothering mega churches.


We need to see and hear those running our government and holding its power, so as to be able to hold them accountable.

The current system does not allow this.


This is what I propose, and will support in future: The Business Party.

Give Big Business the government. Give them the tax money directly, then track and monitor what they do with it publicly.

Eliminate the useless and dishonest middlemen, Dems and the GOP, and put industry and the tax dollar to work.

Let those making the decisions do so in public office, and be held accountable. The current hidden government without accountability is a dishonest concept.

Douglas Coe for President 2012, Big Business Party.

Thank you,

Bruce Illig
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 11:21 AM
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114. Welcome to DU
:toast: And, I like your idea. Yeah, the Business Party and D. Coe for President. Maybe, he can explain that all those who have been elected (or illegally selected) are really chosen by God. And, therefore, any transgression that the chosen commit is forgiven.

I'm with you-expose them and their agenda. The family have promoted and have influence with some of the most ruthless dictators. Of course, those dictators are chosen by God to (with a little help) from their US "chosen by God" friends.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 10:54 AM
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112. GREAT NEWS!
For a laugh, go check out their website:

http://www.bluedogdems.com /


Couldn't even afford to hire a middleschooler to do some basic HTML?? :rofl:
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Oct-28-09 10:57 AM
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113. Here's a list of BlueDogPAC members, in case anyone wants to call their rep and give them a hearty




Jason Altmire (PA-4)
Mike Arcuri (NY-24)
Joe Baca (CA-43)
John Barrow (GA-12)
Melissa Bean (IL-8)
Marion Berry (AR-1)
Sanford Bishop (GA-2)
Dan Boren (OK-2)
Leonard Boswell (IA-3)
Allen Boyd (FL-2)
Bobby Bright (AL-2)
Dennis Cardoza (CA-18)
Christopher Carney (PA-10)
Ben Chandler (KY-6)
Travis Childers (MS-1)
Jim Cooper (TN-5)
Jim Costa (CA-20)
Henry Cuellar (TX-28)
Kathy Dahlkemper (PA-3)
Lincoln Davis (TN-4)
Joe Donnelly (IN-2)
Brad Ellsworth (IN-8)
Bill Foster (IL-14)
Gabrielle Giffords (AZ-8)
Bart Gordon (TN-6)
Parker Griffith (AL-5)
Jane Harman (CA-36)
Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (SD-AL), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Administration
Baron Hill (IN-9), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Policy
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