CNN..Liddy Dole wants Bob Hope buried at Arlington

[SoCalDem]

she is planning on proposing legislation to allow it ..


nothing on the wire yet, but here's an article from Colo


http://rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_2143139,00.html

Vets thankful for memories of entertainer

By Mike Patty and John C. Ensslin, Rocky Mountain News
July 29, 2003

It was just a refueling stop in a driving South Pacific rain during World War II. Two hundred troops on a tiny island in Dutch New Guinea sat on their helmets to keep their bottoms dry and watch Bob Hope from a stage under a tarp roof.

But for Lucy Hambridge, it might as well have been the front-row seat of a Broadway show. Hope was someone from home who cared enough to come to this forgotten place and entertain them. "We were very grateful," said Hambridge, 84, sitting beneath a knitted Afghan in the Colorado Veterans Nursing Home on the Fitzsimons campus in Aurora on Monday. "It kept us in touch with the U.S.," she said. "You felt very deserted out there."

A self-described "Army brat," Hambridge had enlisted in the Women's Army Auxiliary Corps at the start of the war. Throughout the metro area Monday, veterans like her remembered encounters that left them with warm memories of a comedian who came to visit despite hardships and discomforts.


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[JohnKleeb]

1. sigh I can think of a lot better people who belong there

Now I am not gonna bash Hope but isnt Arlington meant for soldiers and their loved ones. I can think of lots of men who belong there but arent.

[CatWoman]

4. not really just for soldiers

tho I tend to agree with you.

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.org/historical_information/index.html

[JohnKleeb]

14. I mean veterans period cat

a lot of those famous people were famous but they happen to be vets too thanks though.

[CatWoman]

17. RFK wasn't a veteran

among others

[JohnKleeb]

18. Yes he was actually

Its not well known though not that it matters but RFK was in the navy.http://www.rfkmemorial.org/RFK/index.htm
Read that. Its ok Cat for the longest time I had no idea he served but you know what that means Cat all the Kennedy boys served and to be fair only one Bush served and thats being fair. I guess you are right a lot of non vets are buried there not sure if Thurgood Marshall served but he is buried there and even if he didnt he was a great man.

[ronnykmarshall]

43. Jackie Kennedy is buried there.

So are the still born daughter she lost before Caroline was born and Patrick Kennedy their baby that died.

[DemBones DemBones]

47. Spouses of veterans are eligible for burial at Arlington, too. JFK

was both a veteran and a president.

I don't know what the policy is on burying infants there but people who lose an infant often want to be buried near the baby. Infant's caskets don't require a full plot, either.

[theboss]

5. Joe Louis is there

Despite not being "qualified."

[CatWoman]

6. Joe Louis was a veteran

[theboss]

2. I don't have a problem with that

And I doubt many vets will either.

I wonder what his total time in combat zones was over his life.

[Maeve]

8. He's the only person ever to be declared an "honorary veteran"

1997, unanimous vote by both houses of Congress. Tried to enlist but was told he was of more use as an entertainer and did his first camp show May 6, 1941--seven months before Pearl Harbor.

[JohnKleeb]

15. if he tried to enlist thats ok for the honorary vet thing

I just dont see the use of burying him there.

[Nambe]

3. I didn't know she was a veteran.

If she isn't, she should mind her own business.

[Catherine Vincent]

7. Gee, maybe when Jane Fonda dies she should get buried there also.

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[9215]

56. If Bob Hope can then Jane Fonda should be eligible also.

But I think only veterans should be buried there.

[ibegurpard]

9. So let it happen

Who does it hurt? Regardless of whether you think Bob Hope was a big conservative or not, he brought some levity into the lives of soldiers for years. If veterans are opposed to this then I think they will let that be known. They are the ones who should make the decision.

[robbedvoter]

10. Remember the guy they dug out after they were trying to

prove that Clinton was selling tight of burial to unqualified people? Turned out, this one guy made up his war record (pretended he was a vet) and was dug up. I guess make believe is only acceptable for GOP . I want Jim Nabors there when it's his time, dagnabit!

[ieoeja]

11. I was thinking of this yesterday evening.

I was going to send an e-mail today to my rep, Rahm Emanuel (D-IL), suggesting he bring it up. It would have been nice if a Dem would have gotten here first.

I was halfway thinking they should go the rotunda route as well. However, first thing this morning I heard the Hope family wants a private funeral. Obviously, any such ideas should be run by the family first.

[quarbis]

12. Vietnam Vet

He deserves it -- he did more for troop morale
than all the a-----e politicians.

[BOSSHOG]

13. I hope it happens

As a 24 year navy veteran with a combat tour, I believe Bob Hope has "earned" the honor of burial at Arlington. He gave so much to those in a war weary state and gave so much for so long. There are people of all political beliefs buried at Arlington. The decision to bury him should not be made based on politics but what he gave to our servicemembers. The same consideration should be given to Jane Fonda. Bob goes in, she doesn't.

[JohnKleeb]

16. well boss I agree with your point

Politics should not have a place at Arlington I agree. John Schmitz one of the leading members of the John Birch society is there and from what I read maybe he belongs there so does Earl Warren and William Brennan two of the best supreme court justices and who also were appointed by another great vet Ike.

[juajen]

26. I totally agree, BOSSHOG

This man has certainly earned the right to be buried at Arlington. This was the first thing that came to mind for me when he died. It is only right. Nobody else in this country has more right. I am very certain that most vets will certainly agree.

[DemBones DemBones]

48. So Dennis Miller gets to be buried at Arlington but Bill Maher doesn't?

I don't think Bob Hope or Jane Fonda should be buried there since neither was a veteran and Arlington has limited space.

[JohnKleeb]

19. I say if the vets dont mind go ahead

That cemetery is for them not people like me. Politics should not have bearing what so ever.

[SoCalDem]

20. His grandson said that they asked him where he wanted to be buried

He said.."Surprise me"..

I do not have a problem with this either.. He "served" in every war up to and including GW1.. His politics do not negate the fact that he brought a little bit of home to the soldiers..

[mitchtv]

21. If jessica Lynch deserves the Bronze Star

hope more than desrves to be buried with his vets

[noonwitch]

22. If his family agrees, then I think it's appropriate

They should give him a special monument at some point, too. He's a good example of a civilian who performed great service to his country by serving it's military.

[JohnKleeb]

24. yes I agree

whether I would agree with him politically or not no doubt. I never have seen his stuff I dont know whether he was funny or not all I know is that he performed for the military from WWII to GW1 which although is not as admirable as serving yourself but is more admirable than doing the chickenhawk dance he asked to enlist but they wouldnt let him if thats the case that is fine my uncle tried to that but being important to the mines they wouldnt let him.

[mumon]

23. Let's bury Ronald Reagan...

Can I still say that?

[SoCalDem]

25. First they have to thaw him out a week before the 2004 election

Then we have the week-long Reagasm on tv 24/7 and all the pomp & circumstance of the Funeral of The Century, with Cowboy George & the Crocodile tears flowing..

THEN we can bury the Ronsicle...

[juajen]

27. Ooooh, I don't like this post

Granted, the "Cheap Labor Conservatives" will take every advantage of his death, but I refuse to believe that Nancy Reagan would be a party to something that distasteful.

[underpants]

28. I thought the family wanted a private ceremony

or does what they want matter?

[grasswire]

29. what does Dolores want?

I would think she would want him near her in California.

[SoCalDem]

30. I didn't think of that

she could not be buried by him if he's buried at Arlington..That might be a no deal for her..

[underpants]

31. Exactly + want did he say he wanted, if he specified

I would assume he did lest he end up like Ted Williams.

Supposedly the greatest honor he ever got (in his opinion) was to be made an honorary veteran. I think the family's opinion comes first.

[SoCalDem]

46. He said..."Surprise me"...

when his grandson asked where he wanted to be buried.

[catzies]

32. What does Dolores Hope want? Hers is the only opinion that matters.

Liddy Dole can say whatever she wants but if Mrs. Hope says no that should be it. If she says okay, then that's all that matters.

For the record, Reagan's not going to be buried there; he'll be laid to his eternal rest at his library.


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[bluestateguy]

33. Whoop, WRONG.

Sorry, but no. Hope did a lot for servicemen in many wars, but the cemetary is reserved for those who actually wore the uniform.

You could more make a case that the passengers on United Flight 93 deserve buriul at Arlington, as they died in combat against Al Qaeda possibly saving the White House or the Capitol.

[Skittles]

34. THANK YOU

YOU MUST ACTUALLY SERVE TO BE BURIED THERE. NO EXCEPTIONS!!!!!!!!

[bluedem]

55. I agree. My father is buried there. His only dying wish was to be

buried in a "military cemetary" (his words). The closest one to our home that had space in 1981 (besides Arlington) was in Bath, NY, about a five hour trip, and this is where the guy at the VA said we had to go. Arlington is only about two hours away. After jumping through lots of hoops, the VA decided my father was eligible to be buried there. Combat veteran in Korea, retired after 20 years.

I have no problem with Bob Hope, but any automatic internment at Arlington bothers me. When families like mine have to go through so much red tape at a time of bereavement to bury their loved one who served this country, the gov't. shouldn't even consider burying celebrities there because they entertained the troops.

Sorry for the rant.

[realFedUp]

35. gads, Liddy finally does something...

well, this is a stupid. Maybe his wife would like to
visit him nearer to Toluca Lake...

[corarose]

36. He deserves it

He went into areas that were off limits and he took his life in his own hands.

If his family wants him to be buried there then he should be buried there.

[PopSixSquish]

37. If the Family Wants it...

fine with me. Otherwise, shut-up Liddy

[kskiska]

38. Where is Martha Raye buried?

I remember her having a military funeral, but don't remember where. At any rate, they're running out of space at Arlington. My father is a WWII POW and wants to be buried there, too. I think it should be reserved for vets.

UPDATE: I just googled it. She's buried in a military cemetery at Ft. Bragg, NC. A special exception to policy was obtained for Raye to be buried in the military cemetery at Fort Bragg, N.C., a request she made two years before her death.

[oneighty]

39. I do not think he should be buried there.

But since the Arlington cemetery has become an on and off political football I really do not care one way or the other. Ms. Doles suggestion is pure politics.



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[Laughing Mirror]

40. i do not think he should be buried there either

his interest in "entertaining the troops" was self interest at its most vile, and quite profitable ... for him

he was an irrepressible war hawk during that most immoral of wars -- Vietnam

if he is eventually buried there, then all i can say is i'm glad my father is not

[Muddleoftheroad]

41. Self interest

You have an odd definition of the term. My guess is your father would have wanted Hope to be buried there even if you do not.

[Laughing Mirror]

50. i doubt it, my father knew a phoney when he saw one

and i remember Hope during Vietnam

do you?

[diamond14]

51. send the warhawk somewhere else....he didn't serve...

my cousin Charlie was KILLED in Vietnam (19 years old, silver star, purple heart, he died saving other soldiers lives on the battlefield, as a medic)...because of these warhawks, Charlie never lived long enough to see a bob hope show in Vietnam....

and Charlie is buried at Arlington, so let's show some respect for those who served...and keep out the profiteering warhawks, who were too chicken to stand up and fight for our country...those who would encourage war so they could entertain the troops, a great self-perpetuating business venture...publicized himself with it to make tons of money, a monopoly too...the ONLY entertainment for a captive audience...

no, bob hope's body should go somewhere else...most people don't realize that they are running out of room in Arlington, especially with the new wave of Iraqi deaths...

you trying to turn Arlington into an Elvis show for tourists...leave our military families in peace, please !

[JohnKleeb]

45. thanks for your opinion I know you are a vet oneeighty

of the same war that my grandfather is right? Korean war. If the family wants it its ok I guess but it is politics yes.

[JackSwift]

42. If Dolores wants him buried in Arlington

that's fine with me. He wasn't a warrior, but Arlington has a place for Mr. Hope.

[ronnykmarshall]

44. Put a sock in it, Liddy.

Why the hell don't you ask THE FAMILY first before you open your yap?

[jeanmarc]

49. let's give him a memorial like the Unknown Soldier

call it the Wellknown Comic.

What sacrifice this comic has made for his country!

It's right there with all the dead and buried. :puke:

[diamond14]

52. trying to turn Arlington into an "Elvis grave" tourists pass through

PLEASE !

leave the military families in peace...we don't need the 'elvis-tour-types' hanging around in mass over the movies star grave, the guy who didn't serve...

spare us this desecration of a sacred place...and leave the military families a peaceful place to find solace...

[jeanmarc]

54. Great point!

And perhaps the most important point.

"Where's Bob Hope?", the ditzy Freeper might say, and quite a flock of bozos would congregate around that site.

Hope isn't evil, he just doesn't belong.

I was in Paris and visited Jim Morrison's grave, and it wasn't a circus then, but it turns out it gets to be at times.

And I've definitely been to Graceland. Hope doesn't command the Graceland type draw, but it would still make a zoo of things.

Hope doesn't belong in there. Isn't it enough he died way rich and got some great medals and stuff from our gov't?

[oasis]

53. So Dizzy Liddy finally initiates legislation. It's a cinch to pass.

Take a bow Madam, and we'll hear from you again soon after Chuck Heston bites the dust.

[drscm]

57. Okay. Fine. Now can the gd repugs get on with something that

actually benefits real people's lives.

[FARAFIELD]

58. PRESIDENTIAL WAIVERS

GO TO THIS SITE FOR A LIST OF PRESIDENTIAL WAIVERS SINCE 1993

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/abuse10.htm