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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:10 PM
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Reid gives GOP direct warning on healthcare
Source: The Hill

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) gave Republicans his most direct warning to date that he is prepared to use a procedural maneuver to pass healthcare reform with a simple majority.

Reid told Republicans that he would prefer to pass healthcare reform under regular order but warned that he would not hesitate to use budget reconciliation if the legislation stalled in committee. The Senate Finance Committee began marking up a sprawling healthcare reform bill on Tuesday morning.


Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/59763-reid-gives-gop...



Harry must have borrowed a set of testicles.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:11 PM
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1. I'll believe it when I see it. n/t
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 03:45 PM
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21. Yeah, I'm thinking his statement intentionally has enough
room to drive a few tractor-trailers through.

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colsohlibgal Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:37 PM
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25. How's It Feel Harry?
Finally find your misplaced spine? I'll totally believe it when he walks the walk. Because it will come to that point.
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ThePantaloon.com Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:13 PM
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2. We need a spine
We should just do it and not threaten it. PUBLIC OPTION or bust, and forget about the new Know-Nothing Party/GOP. People are literally dying for health care.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:18 PM
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4. We do, indeed. But I think he's moving in the right direction
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 02:29 PM by laughingliberal
He did say before the recess that Democrats may have to go it alone. Everyone hopes a bill can get through cloture but I am glad Reid is signaling he is willing to ditch the RW if they continue obstructing. Now, if we can just make sure the bill they pass is a good one.

edited for spelling
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:35 PM
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13. It could be the worst of all possible worlds. Bad bill owned totally by the Democrats.
We're forced to buy insurance; no real alternative to buying from the health companies; health companies lightly regulated, if that.

That's a win-win-win for the Republicans.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 03:21 PM
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19. Problem solved!!!
President Obama vowed he would not sign a bad bill!! I for one, believe him.
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lark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 04:03 PM
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23. Yeah right
He also said the public option was not required to be in the bill for him to sign it, so I hope you aren't holding your breath.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 07:33 AM
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37. Bingo! We must push all our elected officials in D.C. for AT LEAST a "robust" public option, NOT
Edited on Wed Sep-23-09 07:34 AM by No Elephants
5% in 4 years.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:16 PM
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3. He's channeling Barney Fife
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:20 PM
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5. Did he grow testicles? Or are they just a set of neuticles?
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:24 PM
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7. neuticles. lol
:D
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cindyfaulkner Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 03:13 PM
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18. neuticals?
i am afraid to ask heheh
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 03:44 PM
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20. Essentially, fake balls! Some dog owners have them "installed" after Rover's ballsnipping.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 04:12 PM
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24. Prosthetic testicles to soothe the sensibilities of macho men who've given in to the whining...
...of family members, veterinarians, and/or animal wellness advocates and had their dog neutered.

Yep. Fake balls.

So when they walk around with fido, there'll be something hangin' 'back there' to make 'em feel, you know... that testosterone rush.

Less legitimately, there is a version sometimes used by unscrupulous handlers showing dogs with anorchia or monorchia to disguise that condition.

Neuticles.

Perfect.

appreciatively,
Bright
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 07:40 AM
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38. Equating testicles with courage is so last millenium.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:22 PM
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6. He's my Senator. This is the first thing I've seen in a while that I am happy with
Harry has largely been ineffective as leader of the senate but I know he is able to fight. He never let up trying to kill the Yucca mountain debacle the federal government was determined to foist on us, here. And that battle is, for the most part, won. Let's hope he'll fight as hard for this.
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:26 PM
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8. Allowing Cap and Trade on the floor for a vote...
...would have lent some credibility to this "warning".

The question isn't, why should we believe him but rather why should the GOP believe him?
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:27 PM
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9. Hopefully he will find a little bit of courage to fight the republicans. nt
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:28 PM
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10. It's about time....
Now, please follow thru and be Dirty Harry, not Barney Fife!
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:29 PM
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11. has reid ever followed through on one of his warnings
he seems to be a wimp to the repugs
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:47 PM
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26. All yapping and no bite.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:29 PM
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34. unfortunately yes
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 07:45 AM
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39. Yet, the Democrats pick him to be their leader. Interesting, no?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:29 PM
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12. harry, the man with the flexible spine, reid. I see he is in the upright position. nt
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 02:29 PM by Javaman
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:46 PM
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14. Careful...Harry might get REALLY pissed off and write a stern letter!
Blah blah blah, Harry. Action...we need to see some ACTION. Your words ring hollow.

.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 03:02 PM
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15. Oh, that must have the GOP shaking in its shorts!
They laughed all the way to the bar I'll bet.

"Yeah, right Harry. Did you finally find those little dingleberries dangling down there? We knew you had 'em." :rofl:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 07:48 AM
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40. Please see Reply 38.
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harvey007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 03:07 PM
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16. Give 'em hell, Harry!
The Repugs aren't going to play ball, so Dems have to muster up the courage to get the job done right.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 03:09 PM
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17. HE'LL HUFF, AND HE'LL PUFF, AND HE'LL BLOW YOUR HOUSE DOWN.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 03:45 PM
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22. Or get really, really mad and
shake his finger and hold his breath.
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:55 PM
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27. You watch it, or he'll scream at a pitch high enough to give you a really terrible headache.
You'll see, he'll do it.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 07:57 PM
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33. LOL! nt
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SandWalker1984 Donating Member (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 05:59 PM
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28. How about warning Harry - we know the White House cut a deal in July!
Looks like the White House already cut a deal with the corporate health industry.


There's a story at this link titled PHARMA's Big Bribe Comes In.

http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2009/09/14/phrmas-big-b... /

"The drug industrys trade group plans to roll out a series of television advertisements in coming weeks specifically to support Senator Max Baucuss health care overhaul proposal, according to an industry official involved in the planning."

According to the article, the deal was cut with the White House in July.

"Tauzin, who has never been one for subtlety or finesse (he took his $2 million-a-year PhRMA job about ten seconds after he finished pushing through the Prescription Drug Benefit bill), stupidly later revealed some of the contents of that shady meeting, saying that the White House had blessed a plan involving the $150 million. He disclosed to reporters that he had extracted a promise from the White House to drop two important reforms: one, to allow the government to negotiate bulk rates for drugs in Medicare, and the other to permit the importation of cheap drugs from Canada ..."


IF THE DEMOCRATS VERSION OF HEALTH CARE REFORM TURNS OUT TO BE THE SAME AS THIS REPORTED DEAL, THEN I AGREE WITH ED SCHULTZ -- JUST SAY NO AND TRY AGAIN LATER FOR REAL REFORM, after we throw the health industry cheerleaders out of office in November.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:09 PM
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29. The Baucus Bill is a mess.
I will never support it unless there is a Single Payer that goes along with it. Its simple you take the medicare tax that you already get me for you combine it with mandates from my employer and thats that you give me Government run health insurance. When the government forces me through fines and taxes to pay for Health Insurance then its time for me to rebel. It is unconstitutional to force me to buy any insurance plan and I will fight against any Democrat that tries to do this.
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SandWalker1984 Donating Member (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:20 PM
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30. I agree - let's kill the Baucus Bill before it kills us!
Americans, the big question is: Do you want the kind of health care system the rich corporations & their lobbyists want to give you, the kind of corporations like the ones we bailed out on Wall Street?

Or do you want the kind of health care system that you and YOUR representatives in Congress give you by representing YOUR interests, and not the interests of the big campaign contributors that have broken the system in 30 years with excess selfish greed and brought us to where we are now - a broken system for over 70 million citizens and bankrupting the Country and the civility of our future.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:20 PM
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31. yea we'll see
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 06:36 PM
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32. Checkmate. n/t
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:42 PM
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35. Obviously if Harry MEANT it, he would NOT have said it. Period. nt
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 07:24 AM
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36. Tell the pukes to go fuck themselves and pass universial health care...
because you know the pukes, no matter what is in the bill, they are not for any of it.

They are not for anything that is for the betterment of society as a whole.
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