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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 09:59 AM
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Ambulances race to Robert Byrd's home
Source: Politico via TPM

Ambulances and fire trucks were dispatched to the Northern Virginia home of Sen. Robert Byrd Tuesday morning.

A neighbor of the 91-year-old West Virginia Democrat said several ambulances were outside his residence in McLean, Va., and a Byrd spokesman said the senator suffered a fall in his home.

An officer at the McLean Fire Department said that a unit was dispatched at 9:10 to the address where Byrd lives, but he declined to comment on the substance of the response.

Byrd the longest-serving senator in the nations history has been absent from the Senate for much of the

year and has been in and out of the hospital battling various ailments.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27429.html#ix...

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27429.html



My thoughts are with him & his family!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:02 AM
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1. God bless you Senator Byrd. I hope you didn't get hurt, at least
not too badly.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:03 AM
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2. Hopefully just a minor fall

Hoping.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:45 AM
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14. At his age there are no 'minor falls'.
:-(
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:06 AM
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3. If he can't perform his duties
why doesn't he resign from the Senate and enjoy his last years?


Hope my job lets me just leave for months at a time when I'm ill and just show up when I'm ready to work again...
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:18 AM
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6. Maybe he would like to see health care pass before he does.
That's some cold shit to just tell him to give up. Kennedy didn't give up until the day he died.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:42 AM
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12. didn't tell him to give up...
I am curious as to the Senate rules and the fact you can be a Senator and just not show up...

doesn't seem right...
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:22 AM
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19. Please see Replies 16 and 18. Kennedy was ill, but got himself to the Senate when his vote may
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 11:26 AM by No Elephants
have made the difference, even though he was damaging his health so to do. I have no doubt Byrd intends to do the same, if he possibly can. He got his frail 91 year old self to the steps of the Capitol to see Ted's hearse go by, even though he had to wait for hours.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:52 PM
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47. No, he did not. Not for the Stimulus Package
Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio had to come from his mother's wake to join Snowe, Specter and Collins to provide 60 votes.

http://www.opencongress.org/roll_call/show/5247
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:10 AM
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4. Hope all the paramedics are gay. n/t
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:27 AM
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9. Why would that matter?
Just wondering.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:35 AM
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10. Byrd is a homophobe n/t
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:40 AM
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11. speaking as a strong gay rights supporter and a former emt, i say horseshit.
medical personnel from the first responders on should put the patient at ease, not challenge them in their critical time of need. there's a time for debate and politics and correcting social wrongs but emergency care ain't it.

when reagan was shot, he quipped to the surgeon, "i hope you're a republican" and the surgeon responded, "today we're all republicans". that's the right attitude. it rather implied that the surgeon was not, in fact, a republican, but that he recognized that that moment was not the time to have an argument about it.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:43 AM
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13. I interpreted the point more as that if gays saved Robert Byrd's life, it might change his views on
the matter.

I don't think that's likely at the age of 91, however. And of course the ambulance personnel should treat everyone according to their need.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:33 PM
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60. Boy, if that surgeon didn't say that, he really needed you as his writer
I have very strong political opinions, but when I'm taking care of my patients, those opinions are irrelevant.
Likewise, I take care of plenty of religious people who would blanch at my polyamory. I don't talk about that aspect of my life.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:46 PM
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62. naturally, i didn't hear that quote from the surgeon himself.
i heard it through the media, which heard it from reagan's people.
so it's entirely possible that the quote was, actually, a concoction of reagan's speechwriters.

that's certainly the sort of thing the shrub white house would have done, at least. reagan's white house, rotten though it was, wasn't known to be nearly as overtly goebbels-esque.

in any event, the point is that the medical profession is there to heal, not to judge.

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NinetySix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:10 AM
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5. Rest well and recover soon, Senator.
All of our thoughts are with you.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:24 AM
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7. What's the Senatorial succession law in West Virginia?
Appointment or special election?
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:57 AM
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18. Temporary appointment by the governor
and then a special election in 2010. But the governor is a DINO, and we don't really have anyone good to replace Byrd with. Certainly not anyone with Shelley Moore Capito's standing, and SHE will undoubtedly be the Republican nominee for the special election. She's been waiting for this for a very, very long time.

I hope Byrd makes it through this, because when he's gone, we're not going to have much of a chance of replacing him permanently with a Democrat.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:26 AM
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8. he should retire. period.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:50 AM
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16. No, he shouldn't.
We have a Democratic governor, but he's a DINO for the most part, and I suspect that an appointed replacement for Byrd would probably be someone none of us would like very much. Byrd's no staunch liberal, but he's also not a sleazy Blue Dog, and a DLC Blue Dog is exactly what we'd get from Manchin--and even THAT would be temporary, because there's nobody well-known or popular waiting in the wings on our side to replace Byrd. We'd probably LOSE the special election that would result.

I suspect that the Repukes will run Shelley Moore Capito as THEIR candidate if and when Byrd passes away, and that evil bitch is incredibly popular in the red parts of the state. She's been lurking, just WAITING for Byrd to die--she knows she can't win against Byrd, so she sat out the last few races, but when he's out of the picture, she'll be right there to step into it. She's about as slimy and awful as it gets, so God help West Virginia and the U.S. Senate if she wins.

I hope Byrd stays right where he is for as long as possible, because right now, we don't HAVE anyone progressive, well-known, and electable to replace him. Hell, we don't really even have a well-known Blue Dog right now. There are precious few strong Democratic voices here on a statewide level, especially since the GOP strategically removed Alan Mollohan as a threat with their hyped-up "scandal" a few years ago. I keep hoping to see or hear about an electable Democratic rising star, but there's not much on the horizon. When Byrd goes, we'll probably have a year of some do-nothing Blue Dog idiot, and then six years of Senator Capito--at which point I'll be living elsewhere.

Believe me--it's NOT in our best interests for Byrd to go right now. He knows it, too--that's why he's still where he is. There just isn't anyone on our team right now who could replace him and beat Capito. Joe Manchin might be able to beat Capito--MIGHT--but he's no progressive, and even if he WERE, he can't exactly appoint himself. I dread the day that we lose Byrd. I really do.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:40 AM
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22. Seems like WV could do much better
Filibuster of the Civil Rights Act of 1964

Majority Whip Byrd meeting with President Gerald Ford.Byrd joined with other Southern and border state Democrats to filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1964,<18> personally filibustering the bill for 14 hours, a move he now says he regrets.<19> Despite an 83 day filibuster in the Senate, both parties in Congress voted overwhelmingly in favor of the Act, and President Johnson signed the bill into law.<20> He also opposed the Voting Rights Act of 1965, but voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1968. In 2005, Byrd told The Washington Post that his membership in the Baptist church led to a change in his views. In the opinion of one reviewer, Byrd, along with other Southern and border state Democrats, came to realize that he would have to temper "his blatantly segregationist views" and move to the Democratic Party mainstream if he wanted to play a role nationally.<6>

Because of his opposition to desegregation, Byrd was often regarded as a Dixiecrat, a member of this Democratic Party wing that opposed desegregation and civil rights imposed by the Federal Government. However, despite his early career in the KKK, Byrd was linked to such "Dixiecrat" Senators as John C. Stennis, J. William Fulbright or George Smathers, who based their segregationist positions on their conception of states' rights in contrast to, for example, James Eastland, who held a reputation as a committed racist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd#Filibuster_of_...
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:47 AM
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26. And yet he endorsed Obama. Imagine that.
Get well soon, Senator. :patriot:
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #26
27. Probably wouldn't have had to endorse him...
if the Act had not passed due to his efforts. I do hope he gets well though.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:58 AM
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31. Why does everyone do that?
As if we don't know what he was like before. He's made his mistakes and stupid, ignorant stumbles, and he has apologized. Extensively.

Mistakes are mistakes--even enormous ones like that. They do not always define who someone is for the rest of their natural life. There are plenty of things that Byrd and I disagree on (as I said, he's no progressive) but he's not the demon you're painting him as, either. THIS is the Robert Byrd *I* voted for:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxWfawiufK0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU4cLu63xUY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuCrVpYw1z4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjhVRjaXLSk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84VJvWjINr4

He is not who he once was. Kennedy forgave him, and so did the people of West Virginia.

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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #31
36. Some crimes are so egregious....
that there is no forgiveness. I shudder to think what would have happened if the Act had not passed. I know, I for one would have not had the opportunities that I have had. Like war criminals, there is little forgiveness for people who attempt to enact their racist agenda.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #36
38. That's your opinion.
I don't share it. Neither do the other people in my state, and neither do a lot of other people across the country. I believe in the possibility of sincere CHANGE. Sorry that you don't.

And I'm guessing you didn't bother to watch the videos.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:17 PM
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39. This kind of hate doesn't die...
I will never submit to fight beneath that banner with a Negro by my side. Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.

Robert C. Byrd

Disgusting.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #39
53. Why? Just because you say so?
Let's see...

Byrd Endorses Obama

"As people all across this great nation know, I have been one of the most outspoken opponents of the Bush Administrations misguided war in Iraq and its saber rattling around the globe," Byrd says in a statement released by the campaign. "With the Bush Administration's latest request to fund this on-going war in Iraq without any attempt to start bringing our troops home, the issue of the upcoming presidential contest has been weighing heavily on my heart. The loss of life continues and the sons and daughters of tens of thousands of American families remain in harms way every day.

"This Democratic primary campaign has been tough and competitive. I had no intention of involving myself in the Democratic campaign for President in the midst of West Virginia's primary election. But the stakes this November could not be higher. After a great deal of thought, consideration and prayer over the situation in Iraq, I have decided that, as a superdelegate to the Democratic National Convention, I will cast my vote for Senator Barack Obama for President. Both Senators Clinton and Obama are extraordinary individuals, whose integrity, honor, love for this country and strong belief in our Constitution I deeply respect.

"I believe that Barack Obama is a shining young statesman, who possesses the personal temperament and courage necessary to extricate our country from this costly misadventure in Iraq, and to lead our nation at this challenging time in history. Barack Obama is a noble-hearted patriot and humble Christian, and he has my full faith and support."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/19/10394...

Sounds pretty clear to me that the hate is "dead," but hey, if you want to shake your fist and insist that grass is actually PURPLE, dammit, then be my guest.

:shrug:
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:31 PM
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54. Its pretty obvious that you haven't been the victim of racism...
Old school racists never really reform. They just go with the flow to make their lives easier. Robert C. Byrd would have been a birther if it had been politically expedient.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #54
57. PURPLE! IT'S PURPLE, DAMMIT!
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #31
42. Lyric, not "everyone" does it. Most Democrats don't care.
Most Democrats realize that this was in the past, and have long since forgiven him.

But I think the pattern of this kind of behavior reveals a LOT about the people who would take an opportunity of someone's misfortune to insult them. More than they clearly realize.

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Papagoose Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #22
33. You do know that he has done more than that in his career
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 12:02 PM by Papagoose
We shouldn't judge people based solely on the worst thing they ever did. Seems like I have to tell my Republican friends that every time Ted Kennedy is mentioned.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. So if Bush devotes his life to charity and helping people...
then we'll be singing his praises in 40 years? :eyes:
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Papagoose Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:10 PM
Response to Reply #37
52. Maybe not singing his praises
but if he devotes the next 40 years of his to charity and helping people, then I would definitely have to rethink my opinion of him. We humans are the sum of our experiences. We each do good and bad things.

By the way, I will NOT be holding my breath for Mr. Bush to change his ways...
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #33
43. Egg ZACT lee
You "get it."

It's the exact same kind of pattern, if you catch my drift.
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #33
44. "The good is oft interred with their bones"
Shakespeare put some apt words in Mark Antony's mouth:

"The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones"


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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:56 PM
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48. You may end up with this choice, regardless
Had Kennedy did the honorable thing and stepped down last winter, when both the Democratic Congress and the new President had favorable image, we would have had by now another Democrat from MA, without the state having to go through this shameful exercise of changing the laws as it fit... Ted Kennedy.

Specter and Byrd should step down.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #8
59. he shouldn't have run again.
i know how much he loves the senate, and i'm sure that was doubled by the loss of his wife, but really.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:48 AM
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15. Get Well Soon Senator Byrd!!!!!
:loveya: and get well soon sir!

:dem: :kick:

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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:06 PM
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35. Get well soon ~
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 10:54 AM
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17. Oh dear!
So sorry to hear this, I hope for a good outcome.

Julie
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:33 AM
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20. Hope his health coverage pays for all those ambulances.
Mine sure as hell wouldn't...

:shrug:
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:40 AM
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23. Don't worry. Half of the state has his name on it
There's probably a Robert Byrd celebratory ambulance company right down the street from him that he funded with years of working hard for his constituents. I'm sure they would cart him for free even if he didn't have excellent coverage.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #23
25. Man, you ain't kidding...
I used to travel through WV twice a year and it seems like Byrd's name was on everything from park benches to spitoons.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:51 AM
Response to Reply #23
28. You know, I usually heard about that kind of comment being made on Rush Limbaugh.
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 12:35 PM by AspenRose
He made fun of that often. As well as the fillibuster and KKK involvement. Like a dog with a bone, wouldn't let it go.

And I know because my husband is a republican and (once upon a time, but no more, thank God) listened to that crap.

Yes, the same people who want us to forgive and forget Joe Wilson's outburst (or Trent Lott, or George Allen) never let us forget about things Robert Byrd has since apologized for.

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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #28
29. It's either a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you look at it
If you're from West Virginia you're pretty happy that there's someone there fighting for you. If you're from another state and party... it's all pork.

It's a not a matter of who is right and who is wrong, it's a matter of perception and simple fact. He's brought an incredible amount of money into WV over the years. The people of the state love him.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:58 AM
Response to Reply #29
30. Well, some of us outside the state love him, too.
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:40 AM
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21. It has long been my habit to respectfully tip my hat to west virginians I met...
because they had elected senator robert byrd.

I reasoned that west virginia must have very fine
people in it, to have elected such a representative.

Godspeed to Robert Byrd.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #21
24. Really? Love WV, but REALLY?
Filibuster of the Civil Rights Act of 1964

Majority Whip Byrd meeting with President Gerald Ford.Byrd joined with other Southern and border state Democrats to filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1964,<18> personally filibustering the bill for 14 hours, a move he now says he regrets.<19> Despite an 83 day filibuster in the Senate, both parties in Congress voted overwhelmingly in favor of the Act, and President Johnson signed the bill into law.<20> He also opposed the Voting Rights Act of 1965, but voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1968. In 2005, Byrd told The Washington Post that his membership in the Baptist church led to a change in his views. In the opinion of one reviewer, Byrd, along with other Southern and border state Democrats, came to realize that he would have to temper "his blatantly segregationist views" and move to the Democratic Party mainstream if he wanted to play a role nationally.<6>

Because of his opposition to desegregation, Byrd was often regarded as a Dixiecrat, a member of this Democratic Party wing that opposed desegregation and civil rights imposed by the Federal Government. However, despite his early career in the KKK, Byrd was linked to such "Dixiecrat" Senators as John C. Stennis, J. William Fulbright or George Smathers, who based their segregationist positions on their conception of states' rights in contrast to, for example, James Eastland, who held a reputation as a committed racist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd#Filibuster_of_...
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #24
32. Have you taken a look at a calendar recently?
It's 2009, not 1964. Things change.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:04 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. If the Act had not passed, it is likely that things....
wouldn't have changed.
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Alameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 04:10 AM
Response to Reply #34
69. ......................but they did change.....now is now...then was then
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #24
40. Yup, really. he was also a klansman in his 20's. he's from WV you know...
Hes been in the senate since 1959, 50 years, longer than many here have been alive,
and although holding various objectionable views, these were representitive of his state
and of the times, and many of which he has long and convincingly repudiated. I am old
enough to have witnessed the times.

let me remind that
no man (or country) is born complete, nor grows without succor (being taught, sometimes wrongly),
nor is perfect in all things, nor achieves success in politics without representing
his electorate.

I have watched Byrd many years on the senate floor, and considered his views and votes.
There is no question he is a man of great personal integrity,
principled, intelligent,and persuasive. It so rare combination in politics, i weep.
There are others, but he is high among them.

I consider Byrd one of our countries greatest elder statesmen. Byrd is a great man.
I have not even a slight doubt of it.

Yes I tip the hat to west virginians, and to Sen Byrd and west virginia, salute.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:18 PM
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41. See post 39 for his "greatness"
:eyes:
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:45 PM
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45. Your quote is from 1944! You are entitled to your opinion... but if the quality of your argument
is poor, who will be persuaded?

FROM YOUR SOURCE, Wikipedia, a little below where you quoted, we find the part you did not
deem worthy of mention


On May 19, 2008, Byrd released a statement endorsing Barack Obama (D-Illinois) for President of the United States. One week after the West Virginia Democratic Primary, in which Hillary Clinton defeated Obama by 41.32 percent, Byrd said, "Barack Obama is a noble-hearted patriot and humble Christian, and he has my full faith and support." In a written statement, Byrd stated Obama was "a shining young statesman, who possesses the personal temperament and courage necessary to extricate our country from this costly misadventure in Iraq." When asked in October 2008 about the possibility that the issue of race would influence West Virginia voters, as Obama is an African-American, Byrd replied, "Those days are gone. Gone!"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd


yet you rolled your eyes at me. amusing.
Look now into the mirror and roll your eyes.
Here is your lesson:
The world is not black or white, but filled with many colors.
You have but to look.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 12:48 PM
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46. Like I said...
That kind of racism does not die. Kind of like if Bush suddenly became a spokesman for every humanitarian effort out there. It still wouldn't wash away what he's done.
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:02 PM
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49. So people can't change?
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:05 PM
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50. you're entitled to your opinion, of course, that Byrd is a racist, even after..
you have been shown he endorsed obama EARLY, in very glowing terms and in the face
of political disadvantage... one of the most influential senators, one from a southern state,
comes out for obama six months before the election with glowing praise,

and you call this man a racist?
well he sure doesn't seem to be acting like one. right?
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:32 PM
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55. Political disadvantage?
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 01:33 PM by WriteDown
His election chances were threatened? Pfft.

He's just like the birthers. They'll never change either.

Or maybe they will? But its hard to know what really lies in a man's heart after the cat's been let out of the bag.
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:42 PM
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56. you haven't answered any of my points, just round in circles you go.
with your own bigotry. ("he's just like birthers...". oh, please.)
we can discuss civilly but still we cannot reason.
enough then. you have been answered fully.


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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:25 PM
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58. More "greatness"
"He strongly opposed Clinton's 1993 efforts to allow gays to serve in the military and has also supported efforts to limit gay marriage. However, he opposed the Federal Marriage Amendment, arguing that it was unnecessary because the states already had the power to ban gay marriages.<36> However, when the amendment came to the Senate floor he was one of the two Democratic Senators who voted in favor of the cloture motion.<37> He also opposes affirmative action."

Every once in a while the curtain slips.
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:48 PM
Response to Reply #58
63.  hey. you took your shot and lost.
still, no one says you can't have an an opinion.
so why not just make an exit with whatever dignity
remains?
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:50 PM
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64. If you say so....
:rofl:

I must not have enough "greatness"
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:53 PM
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65. We now agree.
Edited on Tue Sep-22-09 02:54 PM by Piewhacket
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:58 PM
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66. Euphemisms are fun!
:)
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 01:09 PM
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51. I wish the Senator well.
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harvey007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 02:37 PM
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61. Byrd's "Barbaric" Speech -- one of his best
We pray for a speedy recovery for Sen. Byrd.

Remember this great speech?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V95eGgZbrU&feature=rela...

On July 19, 2007, Byrd, a self-described dog lover, gave a 25-minute passionate speech in the Senate against dog fighting, in response to the indictment of football player Michael Vick. Byrd called dog fighting a "brutal, sadistic event motivated by barbarism of the worst sort and cruelty of the worst, worst, worst sadistic kind. One is left wondering: 'Who are the real animals: the creatures inside the ring, or the creatures outside the ring?'"
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 04:08 PM
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67. He is being hospitalized only as a precaution
Byrd was taken to the hospital this morning as a precautionary measure following a fall at his home which was likely caused by standing up too quickly, Byrd spokesman Jesse Jacobs said. While having no broken bones or bruises, upon examination, doctors found an elevated white-blood cell count which can be an early sign of an infection. Therefore, his doctors have determined that Byrd should remain in the hospital for antibiotic treatment and observation.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27429.html#ix...
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 04:55 PM
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68. why do they need so many for one guy?
i certainly hope that none of them were needed elsewhere.
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