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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:15 PM
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House votes to defund ACORN
Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON The House has voted to deny all federal funding for ACORN, the community organizing group that has been caught up in several scandals.

The House action came several days after the Senate took a similar vote to block the Housing and Urban Development Department from giving grants to ACORN.

Republicans, long critics of the liberal-leaning group that advocates for the poor, led the effort to cut off all federal funds.

California Republican Darrell Issa, who sponsored the measure in the House, says the "scandal surrounding the criminal activities of ACORN have called into question their role in all aspects of government."

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jxhq8...
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:20 PM
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1. I thought the DEMOCRATS were in charge of the House...
Surely they don't all think FOX News has a case here?!? Please tell me they don't...
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:23 PM
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3. I call it the "Thank you sir may have another!" strategy. nt
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 04:45 PM
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29. So when are they defunding Blackwater?
Way to go wimpy Democrats! Way to go!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:22 PM
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2. And they 'elected' Obama which makes him illegitimate!


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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:14 AM
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35. This is a sad day. The reight still have so much power something must be done.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:02 AM
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45. Let's vote them out! Oh, wait, we already did that.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:26 PM
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4. 345-75. All 75 no votes were Democrats.
The vote, on a provision attached to a student aid bill, was 345-75. All 75 no votes were Democrats.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:28 PM
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6. It WOULD have to be added to a student aid bill
Whose brilliant idea was this?
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:39 PM
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10. I do not know that but there are a lot of Dems who voted to Defund Acorn.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:43 PM
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12. 172 to be exact:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 04:42 PM
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25. Oh, good. My Rep (Lynch) voted No. n/t
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 07:13 PM
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54. yes, thanks.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 04:43 PM
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27. Couldn't Pelosi have kept this thing "off the table"? n/t
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:25 AM
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42. Apparently, only the things Democratic voters want get cleaned off the table.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 11:53 AM
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52. House rules usually permit the minority to vote recommitt a bill with instruction prior to
final passage.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 07:22 PM
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32. As usual, the house is better than the senate.
7% of the senate voted no, but 17% of the house did so. Why are almost all the senators so terrible?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:15 AM
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37. In this case, only 75 members of the House are better than the Senate.
Edited on Fri Sep-18-09 09:27 AM by No Elephants
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stuball111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:27 PM
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5. So... who's running the country?
Edited on Thu Sep-17-09 02:30 PM by stuball111
Seems like you can vote in a vast majority, and some clowns on fux "news" can make a phony entrapment video, and the party in power bends to a minority to de-fund an organization that has done more good than harm, thus leaving the innocent out to dry because of a few bad apples. Some fucking Democracy! Why don't the Dems just all stay in the truck and hand the whole thing back to the shit heads who screwed everything up in the first place, or better yet, let Beck/Hannity/Limbaugh/O'Rielly/ Freedomworks/Joe the fucking plumber/Sarah Palin/and all the rest of those dickbrains run the show? Might as fucking well, seems they are doing it anyway! :puke: :grr: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :shrug: :hide:
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percussivemadness Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:32 PM
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7. democracy is the problem...not the solution
puts tin hat and armour on :)
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jtb33 Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:01 PM
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14. Uh...
Care to expound on that one?
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percussivemadness Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:55 PM
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22. Yep...:)
The concept we accept as Democracy is a system that invariably results in mob rule. People say "you have to vote, people have died for your right to vote", actually, people have died for my right not to vote, its a very subtle difference.

I long for the day that after a general election that Olberman or Matthews sits in front of America and say "Noone voted in the election".

Now that is when we will see real democracy at work..
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IKnowItAll Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:28 PM
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18. So what is the solution???
Don't leave us hanging please.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 04:18 PM
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24. Having a really smart selfless person in charge?
But then wouldn't that be a theocracy?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:56 AM
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43. Could be, but it could also be a secular monarchy or dictatorship.
Edited on Fri Sep-18-09 09:57 AM by No Elephants
If one person is in charge, he or she would make that decision and all other decisions,
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:14 AM
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36. That's why socialism works and not democracy as we see here.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:00 AM
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44. Socialism, like communism or capitalism, is an economic system, not a political system..
Edited on Fri Sep-18-09 10:01 AM by No Elephants
America could conceivably be socialist without changing our political system. Indeed, some say it already is or soon will be socialist.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:40 AM
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:00 PM
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13. +1
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FriendlyReminder Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:32 PM
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8. UGH!!! This crap really pisses me off.....
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:37 PM
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9. Who speaks for the poor now? nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 11:28 AM
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 11:37 AM
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50. Welcome to DU : ) nt
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svpadgham Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 02:40 PM
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11. I propose
that the next time a Representative gets caught doing a no-no that they cut funding to Congress.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:11 PM
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16. ding ding ding!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 05:06 PM
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31. 6 Acorn employees isn't even 1% of their force but let's say the next time
1% of House members or 1% of America's crazy uncles in the Senate are caught behaving unprofessionally, we cut funding to that body. What is that? 2 members and 1 Senator?

Thank GOODNESS we have a man of Porter Goss's caliber heading up the House Ethics Office! If someone refuses to behave, he can just use his old skills and assassinate them.

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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:10 PM
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15. they'll just rename themselves and get new letterhead. no biggie. were working on it anyway I bet.

this will just speed up the process - the name 'Acorn' isn't worth the fight.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:20 PM
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17. so much for due process
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:38 PM
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19. Weakass Democrats. ACORN worked hard to register people to vote for these pieces of shit.
Wake up and stop letting Republicans run things
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:10 AM
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33. ACORN did not register voters to vote for Democrats
They are a nonpartisan organization.

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:19 AM
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40. Bingo!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 11:04 AM
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 11:49 AM
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51. If that were true, then all the more reason to cut off their funds
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:51 PM
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20. The Dems love to bend.... over. nt
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:52 PM
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21. It is Open Season on liberal organizations and individuals.
The White House and Congress are passing out the permits.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:23 AM
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41. ACORN is NOT a liberal organization. That is a Republican lie.
ACORN is a non-partisan, not for profit organization that registers voters and provides services on a non-partisan basis.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 11:57 AM
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53. Liberal on the issues and non-partisan are not mutually exclusive
http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12341

"ACORN is the nations largest grassroots community organization of low- and moderate-income people with over 400,000 member families organized into more than 1,200 neighborhood chapters in about 75 cities across the country. Since 1970, ACORN has been building community organizations that are committed to social and economic justice, and won victories on thousands of issues of concern to our members, through direct action, negotiation, legislative advocacy and voter participation. ACORN helps those who have historically been locked out become powerful players in our democratic system."

They are more liberal than the Democratic Party except during election season. Would you prefer they turn off or turn away Republicans and Independents who need help? Why are you so interested in throwing them under the bus? I get it, it is easy to do and politically expedient so might as well do it and they hire Republicans and Independents too, right?

The most recent example of liberal on the issues but non-partisan were candidates for judge in my community. People and organizations can be liberal and non-partisan.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 03:55 PM
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23. But still funds Blackwater....go figure.
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 04:43 PM
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28. I vote we defund banks.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:18 AM
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39. De-fund banks instead of an organization that registers voters? Commie!
j/k
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 04:43 PM
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26. The House votes on fake poop ban, but...
It still has to pass the senate, which they can kick it back, or pass it, then Mr. president can sign or veto.
No worrys ,
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-17-09 04:57 PM
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30. Senate passed similar anendment yesterday. n/t
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:12 AM
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34. this is yet another stupid move from Democrats
Edited on Fri Sep-18-09 09:13 AM by samsingh
why are our leaders so spineless and stupid? What do they get paid for?

In four years we'll be hearing about how poor supporters are not being registered to vote.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:17 AM
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38. Does this mean we should de-fund Congress over its bad apples, too?
I'm game. Anarchy is looking better and better all the time.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:30 AM
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46. ....
Items 1 through 5 of 51. H.R.3571 : To prohibit the Federal Government from awarding contracts, grants, or other agreements to, providing any other Federal funds to, or engaging in activities that promote certain indicted organizations.
Sponsor: Rep Boehner, John A. (introduced 9/15/2009) Cosponsors (152)
Committees: House Oversight and Government Reform
Latest Major Action: 9/15/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
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2. S.AMDT.107 to H.R.1 Prohibiting direct or indirect use of funds to fund the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN).
Sponsor: Sen Vitter, David (introduced 2/3/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 2/6/2009 Senate amendment not agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 107 not agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 45 - 51. Record Vote Number: 56.


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3. S.AMDT.705 to H.R.1388 To prohibit ACORN, or organizations affiliated or co-located with ACORN, from receiving assistance under this Act.
Sponsor: Sen Vitter, David (introduced 3/25/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 3/26/2009 Motion to table amendment SA 705 agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 53 - 43. Record Vote Number: 114.


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4. S.AMDT.2355 to H.R.3288 Prohibiting use of funds to fund the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN).
Sponsor: Sen Johanns, Mike (introduced 9/11/2009) Cosponsors (14)
Latest Major Action: 9/14/2009 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2355 as modified agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 83 - 7. Record Vote Number: 275.


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5. S.AMDT.2394 to H.R.2996 Prohibiting use of funds to fund the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN).
Sponsor: Sen Johanns, Mike (introduced 9/15/2009) Cosponsors (12)
Latest Major Action: 9/17/2009 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2394 agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 85 - 11. Record Vote Number: 289.




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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 09:39 AM
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55. think the iraq war resolution would still pass
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