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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:07 AM
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More 'combat enablers' Afghan-bound
Source: Army Times

By William H. McMichael - Staff writer
Posted : Wednesday Sep 16, 2009 5:52:35 EDT

About 3,000 additional troops are headed to Afghanistan — but not as part of any new request from the top U.S. commander there, a senior defense official said Monday.

The troops are what the military calls “combat enablers” — noncombat troops who specialize in areas such as intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance; explosives ordnance disposal; medical and mental health; and personnel administration. They will deploy in team-sized elements as opposed to larger units, according to the official, who asked not to be identified.

About 1,000 such troops also will deploy to Iraq, the official said, adding that both groups are being sent in response to existing requests by the theater commanders in Afghanistan and Iraq.

The so-called “request for forces” was approved two weeks ago by Defense Secretary Robert Gates, the official said.

Read more: http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/09/military_afghanis... /
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:22 AM
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1. Enablers?
Are they sending battered women who have experience running down to the liquor store to buy booze for their alcoholic husbands? I can just see the orders now: "G#$%^^$# woman! Get your #$%^&* ass down to the supply depot and bring me back a case of hand grenades!"

War and alcoholism -- two things the civilized world can do without.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:29 AM
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2. Obama = Change you can believe in
Edited on Wed Sep-16-09 08:30 AM by saigon68
Unreal

Welcome to Afghan-Nam boys

Edited to excise profanity
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:23 AM
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3. "NONcombat troops....
who specialize in areas such as intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance; explosives ordnance disposal; medical and mental health; and personnel administration."

IDK.. I detest these "wars" and desperately want them all home alive asap but perhaps a bit of a temporary increase in some of these types of noncombat military personnel might make some sense... the medical and mental health might be helpful especially for eval and helping them a bit before sending them home and the personnel administration might be helpful for processing troops being sent home more quickly. :shrug:
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:00 AM
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4. Hmm - the "Jobs" they're tasked with sound very familiar . . .
where have I seen similar descriptions? OH, right! Vietnam - BEFORE we sent in 'combat troops'.

Up to 1961 the government of South Vietnam and the U.S. Mission in Saigon in dealing with the insurgency had placed primary emphasis on developing the regular military forces, which for the most part excluded the ethnic and religious minority groups. Under the sponsorship of the U.S. Mission in Saigon, however, several programs were initiated in late 1961 to broaden the counterinsurgency effort by developing the paramilitary potential of certain of these minority groups. Special Forces detachments were assigned-to the U.S. Mission in Saigon to provide training and advisory assistance in the conduct of these programs, which eventually came to be known collectively as the Civilian Irregular Defense Group (CIDG) program. The development of paramilitary forces among the minority groups became the primary mission of the Special Forces in Vietnam.

Originally attention was concentrated on the Montagnards, who lived in the strategic Central Highlands. The first step was taken in October 1961 with the beginning of a project designed to prevent the Rhade tribesmen in Darlac Province from succumbing to Viet Cong control. Exploratory talks were held with Rhade leaders in Darlac to seek their participation in a village self-defense program. One Special Forces medical noncommissioned officer participated in that first effort.

<snip>

In November 1961 the first medical specialist troops of the Special Forces were employed in Vietnam in a project originally designed to provide assistance to the Montagnard tribes in the high-plateau country around Pleiku. Out of this modest beginning grew one of the most successful programs for using civilian forces ever devised by a military force�the Civilian Irregular Defense Group. Eventually the organization, development, and operation of the Civilian Irregular Defense Group proved to be the chief work of the U.S. Special Forces in the Vietnam War.

Despite the size and complexity of the program, however, the U.S. "Special Forces participated in a number of other activities in the course of their stay in Vietnam, including training, advisory, and operational missions. Any comprehensive story of what the Special Forces did in Vietnam must include some account of these missions. The nature, scope, and success of the Civilian Irregular Defense Group program will nevertheless occupy a substantial part of this study.

http://www.history.army.mil/books/vietnam/90-23/90-231....




There is more than one way to interpret the mission of those 3000 . . .
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:35 AM
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7. Of course they can and have been used for that..
but logically they can also be used for the reverse as well.

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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:43 AM
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8. I wish I had your optimism.
Really.
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:21 AM
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5. George Orwell just never goes out of style. n/t
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Steerpike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 10:26 AM
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6. Gosh!
How much more billions and billions of dollars can we spend on stuff that we don't have to spend on progressive programs.

Fuck Education
Fuck Medical Care
Fuck Old People
Fuck Disabled People
Fuck us one and All!!!
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