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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-28-09 05:19 PM
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In Birmingham, (AG) Holder Lobbied on Behalf of Siegelman
Source: Locust Fork News-Journal

In Birmingham, Holder Lobbied on Behalf of Siegelman
August 28th, 2009

by Glynn Wilson

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder was lobbied to drop the case against former Alabama Governor Don Siegelman during his trip to Birmingham Thursday for the swearing in of Joyce White Vance as U.S. attorney for the state’s northern district, sources say.

Several people, including Alabama Democratic Party officials, spoke to Holder on behalf of Siegelman, and about firing U.S. Attorney Leura Canary — the prosecutor married to Karl Rove’s political ally Bill Canary of the conservative Business Council of Alabama — according to sources present for the swearing in.

Barry Ragsdale, an attorney with the Over the Mountain Democrats, acted as master of ceremonies for the swearing in. Apparently he is a funny guy. “I’m glad Karl Rove gave you permission to be here,” Ragsdale quipped, according to the Birmingham News account of the swearing in.

Read more: http://blog.locustfork.net/2009/08/28/in-birmingham-hol... /
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   I suppose we should be happy to know that he has been publicly apprised of the situation  bertman   Aug-28-09 05:35 PM   #1 
   Aw hell  hmorehead   Aug-28-09 05:54 PM   #2 
   Based on what?  trof   Aug-28-09 06:38 PM   #3 
   huh? cite? evidence? link?  UpInArms   Aug-28-09 06:49 PM   #4 
   First I reject your premis...  hootinholler   Aug-28-09 06:49 PM   #5 
   ok -  hmorehead   Aug-28-09 08:32 PM   #7 
      So you contend he was not railroaded?  hootinholler   Aug-28-09 09:56 PM   #10 
      Didn't say he was or was not guilty  hmorehead   Aug-29-09 01:49 AM   #20 
      You are apparently not at all familiar with this case, or you're here just to cause trouble. nt  rhett o rick   Aug-28-09 10:05 PM   #11 
         Nope, I just take a serious look at all  hmorehead   Aug-29-09 10:38 AM   #22 
   WTF makes you say that??  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-28-09 09:11 PM   #9 
   What makes YOU say that  hmorehead   Aug-29-09 10:40 AM   #23 
      I met Siegelman 2 weeks ago today  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-29-09 11:38 AM   #25 
         Never said he was a Republican, said he was ward healing political hack  hmorehead   Aug-29-09 12:32 PM   #26 
            No you just said he was "half" Republican  proud2BlibKansan   Aug-29-09 01:25 PM   #27 
               and......?  hmorehead   Aug-29-09 03:16 PM   #28 
   If that was even a tiny bit true, they wouldn't have had to steal the election -- !!!  defendandprotect   Aug-28-09 11:26 PM   #14 
      He stands for Siegleman  hmorehead   Aug-29-09 10:45 AM   #24 
   Let it go, give 'em more rope.  DCKit   Aug-28-09 11:42 PM   #17 
   Holder has been front and center letting GOPers go like Ted Stevens.  MasonJar   Aug-28-09 08:09 PM   #6 
   Don't understand why they haven't renewed the charges on Stevens??  defendandprotect   Aug-28-09 11:26 PM   #15 
   I honestly think at this point that keeping their hands off Rove is part of some deal.  rudy23   Aug-29-09 09:01 AM   #21 
   Another frightful Dem afraid of what republicans might do - piss in their pants Dems & let  LaPera   Aug-28-09 08:54 PM   #8 
   Well that was a long time coming.  dhpgetsit   Aug-28-09 10:23 PM   #12 
   Among other issues, I try to remember this one as often as possible . . .  defendandprotect   Aug-28-09 11:28 PM   #16 
   Karl Rove's DU pal will not like this one  Kingofalldems   Aug-28-09 10:58 PM   #13 
   In Birmingham they love the governor?  Hissyspit   Aug-28-09 11:53 PM   #18 
   Maybe when Holder's through turning loose all the Republican crooks  QC   Aug-29-09 12:04 AM   #19 
 
bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Aug-28-09 05:35 PM
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1. I suppose we should be happy to know that he has been publicly apprised of the situation
with Siegelman. His actions to date wouldn't give a hint of that.

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hmorehead Donating Member (513 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-28-09 05:54 PM
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2. Aw hell
Spiegleman is about half Republican, anyway.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-28-09 06:38 PM
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3. Based on what?
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Aug-28-09 06:49 PM
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4. huh? cite? evidence? link?
hit and run posts with nothing but your empty hand are not a good sign.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-28-09 06:49 PM
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5. First I reject your premis...
But even if it was valid, please explain to me how it is pertinent to the abuse of the justice system to rail road the Gov into prison? Did you mean to imply that it's ok to railroad someone into jail based on their politics? That is a very republican idea and tactic.

-Hoot
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hmorehead Donating Member (513 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-28-09 08:32 PM
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7. ok -
He was defeated for re-election in 2002 by Bob Riley, a Republican who focused his campaign on the ethics complaints and criminal probes that had dogged the Siegelman administration. Mr. Siegelman sought to challenge the final vote tally that showed him trailing by 3,117 votes out of more than 1.3 million cast, but conceded after it became clear that a recount was unlikely to be granted.

During his single term in office, Mr. Siegelman's top aides and associates were embroiled in scandals that included bribery, tax evasion, phony invoices and fixed traffic tickets. Mr. Siegelman himself was indicted on bid-rigging charges in May of 2004 but those charges were dropped five months later.

In June 2006, he was convicted along with former HealthSouth chief executive, Richard M. Scrushy. The two men were convicted on bribery charges stemming from a donation Mr. Scrushy made to retire a campaign loan Mr. Siegelman had taken out during a referendum campaign seven years earlier; prosecutors said that Mr. Scrushy's appointment to the state hospital licensing board later was the result of the bribe. Mr. Siegelman was sentenced to seven years in prison, and was jailed immediately.

The case was considered unusual by many legal experts because actions like those Mr. Siegelman was accused of — exchanging a seat on the state board for a contribution — are hardly uncommon in state capitals around the country. The case became a center of controversy around the country in 2007, as the House Judiciary Committee began investigating charges that President Bush's top political advisor, Karl Rove, had played a role in the prosecution.

http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/...

Look: he's been in jams that are common place in this country and its not even clear he didn't do this last bribary. The fact that Turd Blossom Rove played a part in greasing the skids doesn't mean Don did not do the crime. This guy is in bed with the health industry.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-28-09 09:56 PM
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10. So you contend he was not railroaded?
His conviction is valid?

Are you familiar with Larissa's reporting on this matter?

She paints a detailed picture compared to the NY Times.

-Hoot
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hmorehead Donating Member (513 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-29-09 01:49 AM
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20. Didn't say he was or was not guilty
just said that there was a possibility either way and that the White House fixed it so he'd never get a fair trial either way, they 'poisened the well.' Spiegelman was no saint. He may have been our crook, but he was still a crook.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-28-09 10:05 PM
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11. You are apparently not at all familiar with this case, or you're here just to cause trouble. nt
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hmorehead Donating Member (513 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-29-09 10:38 AM
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22. Nope, I just take a serious look at all
assects of someone before I support them. You've obviously only read the news regarding the White House interferring with his prosecution. You haven't read about the man himself. I think Rove needs to go to prison and I think Siegelman needs to be released, not because he's such a nice guy but because he did not get and cannot get a fair trial. Haven't you noticed this man can't seem to get anybody wholeheartedly behind him? He was a typical southern polititian and not some sort of statesman.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-28-09 09:11 PM
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9. WTF makes you say that??
:crazy:
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hmorehead Donating Member (513 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-29-09 10:40 AM
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23. What makes YOU say that
I posted my article and link, what do you say besides a question?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-29-09 11:38 AM
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25. I met Siegelman 2 weeks ago today
I can't imagine why anyone would call him a Republican.
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hmorehead Donating Member (513 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-29-09 12:32 PM
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26. Never said he was a Republican, said he was ward healing political hack
He gets no points for being my hack. I never said he was or wasn't a terrible criminal, in my mind he's pretty well a garden variety politician. I also say he has a Constitutional right to due process and equal access to justice and that the White House went out of its way to prosecute this case into a persicution. Doesn't mean he was a saint or a Cunningham. OK?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-29-09 01:25 PM
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27. No you just said he was "half" Republican
"Spiegleman is about half Republican, anyway."
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hmorehead Donating Member (513 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-29-09 03:16 PM
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28. and......?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-28-09 11:26 PM
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14. If that was even a tiny bit true, they wouldn't have had to steal the election -- !!!
Rather, Siegelman stands against all that the Repugs have to offer -- !!!

And, evidently, the voters understood that!

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hmorehead Donating Member (513 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-29-09 10:45 AM
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24. He stands for Siegleman
not for democracy or even Dems vs Repubs. He's just another politician who got politic-ed on. It was more a pissing match than a struggle between good and evil. But the Republicans who suborned justice in his prosecution need a little jail times themselves.
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17. Let it go, give 'em more rope.
He's free on bail, the BushCo* attorneys don't have that "freedoms". They're fucked.
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6. Holder has been front and center letting GOPers go like Ted Stevens.
Edited on Fri Aug-28-09 08:11 PM by MasonJar
And Stevens was guilty. Seigelman is innocent and he cannot seem to get Holder's attention. I still think Bushista got something on Obama via wiretapping. Thanks to the Alabama dems for standing up for Seigelman and asking that Canary be fired. Why are the two women AG conspirators still in power in Alabama?
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15. Don't understand why they haven't renewed the charges on Stevens??
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-29-09 09:01 AM
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21. I honestly think at this point that keeping their hands off Rove is part of some deal.
Why else is Rove still showing his mug on camera, out in the public eye with not a care in the world?
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8. Another frightful Dem afraid of what republicans might do - piss in their pants Dems & let
republicans push them around, do as they please break laws with no worry or repercussions as well as dictate policy....

I don't give a fuck if you don't believe it, it's fact! So shut the fuck up!
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12. Well that was a long time coming.
Why doesn't he can the Bush appointed judges now?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-28-09 11:28 PM
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16. Among other issues, I try to remember this one as often as possible . . .
in e-mail to my NJ state Senators -- and to Pelosi/Reid ....

because I think this case shows the real threat of DOJ corruption by the

right wing to all Democrats!!

So, I'm glad to see this -- but not nearly enough!

Several people, including Alabama Democratic Party officials....

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13. Karl Rove's DU pal will not like this one
Already declared Siegelman guilty.
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18. In Birmingham they love the governor?Updated at 2:49 AM
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19. Maybe when Holder's through turning loose all the Republican crooks
he'll look into Don's situation.

Let's not hold our breath, though.
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