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steven johnson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:50 PM
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Senate Democrats Consider Tactic to Push Through Government Health Plan (with a simple majority)
Edited on Mon Aug-24-09 12:33 AM by steven johnson
Source: NY Times

Senate Democrats said Sunday that they were fleshing out plans to pass health legislation, particularly the option of a new government-run insurance program, with a simple majority, instead of the 60 votes that would ordinarily be needed to overcome a filibuster.
After consulting experts in Senate rules and procedure, the Democrats said they were increasingly confident that they could legislate creation of a public plan in a way that would withstand challenges expected from Republicans.
Appearing Sunday on the NBC News program "Meet the Press," Senator Charles E. Schumer of New York, the third-ranking Democrat in the Senate, said a public insurance plan was "essential to getting the costs down, which is our No. 1 problem."
Proponents of a public plan say it would drive down costs because it would not have a profit motive and would have lower overhead costs and lower executive salaries than private insurance companies.
In Colorado on Aug. 15, President Obama said people had become "fixated" on the public plan option, which he described as "just one sliver" of efforts to overhaul the health care system.


Read more: Http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/health/policy/24healt...



Now it's going to get nasty.

There is plenty of historical precedent of using it by both parties, including Republican Presidents Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, who used it force through big tax cuts. 'Pretty much every major piece of budget legislation going back to April 1981, April '82, April 1990, April 1993, the 1990 act, the 2001 tax legislation, 1995 Contract With America agenda -- they were all done through reconciliation.

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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:56 PM
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1. The LA Times says the Insurance companies are already popping the corks on their champagne bottles

Healthcare insurers get upper hand

Obama's overhaul fight is being won by the industry, experts say. The end result may be a financial 'bonanza.'

By Tom Hamburger and Kim Geiger

August 24, 2009

Reporting from Washington - Lashed by liberals and threatened with more government regulation, the insurance industry nevertheless rallied its lobbying and grass-roots resources so successfully in the early stages of the healthcare overhaul deliberations that it is poised to reap a financial windfall.

The half-dozen leading overhaul proposals circulating in Congress would require all citizens to have health insurance, which would guarantee insurers tens of millions of new customers -- many of whom would get government subsidies to help pay the companies' premiums.

"It's a bonanza," said Robert Laszewski, a health insurance executive for 20 years who now tracks reform legislation as president of the consulting firm Health Policy and Strategy Associates Inc.

Some insurance company leaders continue to profess concern about the unpredictable course of President Obama's massive healthcare initiative, and they vigorously oppose elements of his agenda. But Laszewski said the industry's reaction to early negotiations boiled down to a single word: "Hallelujah!"

More at: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/healthca...
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 11:59 PM
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2. I think I need that drink I've been eschewing for over 15 years.
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bc3000 Donating Member (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 12:26 AM
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3. It's about time they decided to stand up.
But they'll probably go down like Glass Joe.
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bkkyosemite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 12:27 AM
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4. I just listened to Canada on YouTube talking about Single Payer and to Obama. Sent it to him.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 02:50 AM
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5. We knew them Dems were gonna do that all along. The Pubs were handed an invitation
to link for whats best for America but rejected with vicious venom..

The 2nd stage for our President..is to continue his successful agenda which has been largely fruitful..Demonstration of Leadership under Duress...

When the Confirmation period kicks in...The GOP = Toast
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 07:34 AM
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6. When Obama calls it just a 'sliver' in the reform, he is not suporting
it---.


In Colorado on Aug. 15, President Obama said people had become "fixated" on the public plan option, which he described as "just one sliver" of efforts to overhaul the health care system.
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