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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-21-09 07:45 PM
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Report Reveals CIA Conducted Mock Executions
Source: Newsweek

A long-suppressed report by the Central Intelligence Agency's inspector general to be released next week reveals that CIA interrogators staged mock executions as part of the agency's post-9/11 program to detain and question terror suspects, NEWSWEEK has learned.

According to two sources—one who has read a draft of the paper and one who was briefed on it—the report describes how one detainee, suspected USS Cole bomber Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, was threatened with a gun and a power drill during the course of CIA interrogation. According to the sources, who like others quoted in this article asked not to be named while discussing sensitive information, Nashiri's interrogators brandished the gun in an effort to convince him that he was going to be shot. Interrogators also turned on a power drill and held it near him. "The purpose was to scare him into giving up," said one of the sources. A federal law banning the use of torture expressly forbids threatening a detainee with "imminent death."

According to the sources, the report also says that a mock execution was staged in a room next to a detainee, during which a gunshot was fired in an effort to make the suspect believe that another prisoner had been killed. The inspector general's report alludes to more than one mock execution.

Before leaving office, Bush administration officials confirmed that Nashiri was one of three CIA detainees subjected to waterboarding. They also acknowledged that Nashiri was one of two al Qaeda detainees whose detentions and interrogations were documented at length in CIA videotapes. But senior officials of the agency's undercover operations branch, the National Clandestine Service, ordered that the tapes be destroyed, an action which has been under investigation for over a year by a federal prosecutor.

The new revelations are contained in a lengthy report on the CIA interrogation program completed by the agency's inspector general in May 2004, around the time that the initial, most intense phase of the CIA effort began to wind down. The purpose of the report was to examine how the CIA program had been conducted, and whether Justice Department guidelines governing the use of harsh "enhanced" interrogation techniques had been followed. According to the sources, the inspector general criticizes some agency interrogators for exceeding official guidelines in the use of extreme tactics on detainees.


Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/id/213188
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   K&R  Solly Mack   Aug-21-09 07:45 PM   #1 
   These criminals have left a permanent stain on the US reputation, one we'll never recover from.  williesgirl   Aug-21-09 08:03 PM   #2 
   The horror................  no bad days   Aug-21-09 08:14 PM   #3 
   Welcome to DU!  Strong Atheist   Aug-23-09 11:19 AM   #28 
   I'm sorry I don't understand the problem  thbigham   Aug-22-09 01:05 AM   #12 
      The rule of law  daleo   Aug-22-09 02:30 AM   #14 
   The bad news just keeps coming, doesn't it?  No Elephants   Aug-21-09 08:20 PM   #4 
   Correct me here if I'm wrong, but isn't that considered a war crime?  pattmarty   Aug-21-09 08:33 PM   #5 
   Some war criminals are too powerful and too important  irislake   Aug-21-09 09:29 PM   #6 
   That depends on who is committing the act, pattmarty  Alamuti Lotus   Aug-22-09 02:46 AM   #16 
   Report Reveals CIA Conducted Mock Executions  laststeamtrain   Aug-21-09 10:07 PM   #7 
   I'll be damned,  Robb   Aug-21-09 10:07 PM   #8 
   Another count in the list of War Crimes  on point   Aug-21-09 10:07 PM   #9 
   K & R  nookiemonster   Aug-21-09 10:19 PM   #10 
   K & R - Sorry I 'dooped'. I alerted on myself. It was sad. n/t  laststeamtrain   Aug-21-09 10:21 PM   #11 
   Mock executions  daleo   Aug-22-09 02:27 AM   #13 
   Hey look over here  HCE SuiGeneris   Aug-22-09 02:36 AM   #15 
   CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation  Liberation Angel   Aug-22-09 07:37 AM   #17 
   So International Law has clearly been broken. Who's gonna pay for this?  Arrowhead2k1   Aug-22-09 07:37 AM   #18 
   No one. They had a lawyer's memo. They never believed it, but apparently, it protects  No Elephants   Aug-22-09 07:37 AM   #23 
   what statute was broken?  excess_3   Aug-22-09 07:37 AM   #24 
      UN Convention Against Torture (CAT)  leveymg   Aug-22-09 01:02 PM   #25 
   This is hugh. Will anything come of it? .....  time_has_come   Aug-22-09 07:37 AM   #19 
   Ugh. Marathon Man, anyone?  TommyPaine   Aug-22-09 07:37 AM   #20 
   Well, isn't that special?  snake in the grass   Aug-22-09 07:37 AM   #21 
   What did Obama call these people? Brave? Honorable?  EFerrari   Aug-22-09 07:37 AM   #22 
      My good EFerrari, you have a way...  Piewhacket   Aug-22-09 03:35 PM   #27 
   Nashiri may have been the last person who Derwish and al-Harethi talked to.  leveymg   Aug-22-09 01:16 PM   #26 
 
Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Aug-21-09 07:45 PM
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1. K&R
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-21-09 08:03 PM
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2. These criminals have left a permanent stain on the US reputation, one we'll never recover from.
Talk about a great recruiting tool for our enemies. Bush and Cheney MUST BE TRIED for all this shit, starting with their lies leading up to an illegal invasion. Obama is not doing his job if he doesn't instruct DOJ to uphold our Constitution regardless of policitical cost or implications. rec'd
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no bad days (83 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-21-09 08:14 PM
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3. The horror................
To live in a country that stages "mock executions".
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Aug-23-09 11:19 AM
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28. Welcome to DU!



:toast:
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thbigham (1 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-22-09 01:05 AM
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12. I'm sorry I don't understand the problem
In this area I disagree. WOuld you want more innocent people killed by these animals?
1. The geneva conventions does not cover terrorists - closest thing to it are "irregulars" in the code. These the occupier or authorities have the right to execute.
They are not lawful combatants and are essentially meat by international law.No illegality here. They are not Americans and thus not requiring constitutional rights.
2. It's not a criminal case.
3. No records exist of actual torture. Just mind games.

You guys would prefer they read him his rights, give him 3 hots and a cot and hope he talks? If he was getting ready to kill your family? Where does the patience end? When does realism come in? After the first bombing? First chem attack? First nuke ?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-22-09 02:30 AM
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14. The rule of law
Is what sets us apart from terrorists. It's another one of those inconvenient truths.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-21-09 08:20 PM
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4. The bad news just keeps coming, doesn't it?
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5. Correct me here if I'm wrong, but isn't that considered a war crime?
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irislake (797 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-21-09 09:29 PM
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6. Some war criminals are too powerful and too important
to go after. I'll betcha (wink wink) Bush, Cheney and all the other war criminals will never have to face trials.

The Democrats can't get away with much. I was reading about a boy's sex ring run for benefit of figures high up in Republican circles in Reagan's time. They were too powerful to be got at. Yet look what happened to Clinton for fiddling around with a n age-of-consent intern.
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16. That depends on who is committing the act, pattmarty
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laststeamtrain (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-21-09 10:07 PM
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7. Report Reveals CIA Conducted Mock Executions
Source: Newsweek

Report Reveals CIA Conducted Mock Executions
A long-awaited report on post-9/11 interrogation tactics will reveal harrowing new details about treatment of suspected terrorists.

By Mark Hosenball and Michael Isikoff | Newsweek Web Exclusive

Aug 21, 2009 | Updated: 6:58 p.m. ET Aug 21, 2009

A long-suppressed report by the Central Intelligence Agency's inspector general to be released next week reveals that CIA interrogators staged mock executions as part of the agency's post-9/11 program to detain and question terror suspects, NEWSWEEK has learned.

According to two sources—one who has read a draft of the paper and one who was briefed on it—the report describes how one detainee, suspected USS Cole bomber Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, was threatened with a gun and a power drill during the course of CIA interrogation. According to the sources, who like others quoted in this article asked not to be named while discussing sensitive information, Nashiri's interrogators brandished the gun in an effort to convince him that he was going to be shot. Interrogators also turned on a power drill and held it near him. "The purpose was to scare him into giving up," said one of the sources. A federal law banning the use of torture expressly forbids threatening a detainee with "imminent death."

According to the sources, the report also says that a mock execution was staged in a room next to a detainee, during which a gunshot was fired in an effort to make the suspect believe that another prisoner had been killed. The inspector general's report alludes to more than one mock execution.

Before leaving office, Bush administration officials confirmed that Nashiri was one of three CIA detainees subjected to waterboarding. They also acknowledged that Nashiri was one of two al Qaeda detainees whose detentions and interrogations were documented at length in CIA videotapes. But senior officials of the agency's undercover operations branch, the National Clandestine Service, ordered that the tapes be destroyed, an action which has been under investigation for over a year by a federal prosecutor.

Read more: http://www.newsweek.com/id/213188
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8. I'll be damned,
an honest to god piece of investigative reporting? Tying more than three ideas together to get a story? Me likee. :toast:
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on point (45 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-21-09 10:07 PM
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9. Another count in the list of War Crimes
Edited on Fri Aug-21-09 10:58 PM by on point
Mock executions are also expressly forbidden in Geneva Convention and are another instance of the myriad war crimes committed by the Bush Regime.
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nookiemonster (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-21-09 10:19 PM
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10. K & R
It just keeps getting uglier, and the frustration caused by lack of prosecution really pisses me off!

Assholes...

:mad:

Unbelievable
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laststeamtrain (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Aug-21-09 10:21 PM
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11. K & R - Sorry I 'dooped'. I alerted on myself. It was sad. n/t
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-22-09 02:27 AM
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13. Mock executions
This was done to Dostoyevsky by the czar's secret police.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-22-09 02:36 AM
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15. Hey look over here
:hi:


now over here :bounce:











I meant down here, silly :silly:





one wonders how much game we have before we call BS on the new distraction and actually DO something about the old "distractions".

Cheney, Rove, Rummy, et al... need a speedy trial and then incarceration. How the hell will this country ever survive otherwise?
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Liberation Angel Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-22-09 07:37 AM
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17. CIA Used Gun, Drill in Interrogation
Source: Washington Post

By Joby Warrick and R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, August 22, 2009

CIA interrogators used a handgun and an electric drill to try to frighten a captured al-Qaeda commander into giving up information, according to a long-concealed agency report due to be made public next week, former and current U.S. officials who have read the document said Friday.

The tactics -- which one official described Friday as a threatened execution -- were used on Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, according to the CIA's inspector general's report on the agency's interrogation program. Nashiri, who was captured in November 2002 and held for four years in one of the CIA's "black site" prisons, ultimately became one of three al-Qaeda chieftains subjected to a form of simulated drowning known as waterboarding.... The report also says that a mock execution was staged in a room next to one terrorism suspect, according to Newsweek magazine.

A federal judge in New York has ordered a redacted version of the classified IG report to be publicly released Monday, in response to a lawsuit by the American Civil Liberties Union. Since June, lawyers for the Justice Department and the CIA have been scrutinizing the document to determine how much of it can be made public. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. has been weighing the report's findings as part of a broader probe into the CIA's use of harsh interrogation methods.

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In one instance, an interrogator showed Nashiri a gun and sought to frighten the detainee into thinking he would be shot, the sources said. In a separate encounter, a power drill was held near Nashiri's body and repeatedly turned on and off, said the officials, who spoke about the report on the condition of anonymity because it remains classified. The federal torture statute prohibits a U.S. national from threatening anyone in his or her custody with imminent death.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...



Once again violations of federal law need prosecutions by Obama and Holder.
Failure to prosecute equals accessory after the fact and misprision of felonies, making them criminals as well. But only if they fail to act.
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Arrowhead2k1 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-22-09 07:37 AM
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18. So International Law has clearly been broken. Who's gonna pay for this?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-22-09 07:37 AM
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23. No one. They had a lawyer's memo. They never believed it, but apparently, it protects
them anyway. One of the lawyers is a federal judge now. Let's see if he gets impeached.
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excess_3 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-22-09 07:37 AM
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24. what statute was broken?
please be as specific as you can
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leveymg (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-22-09 01:02 PM
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25. UN Convention Against Torture (CAT)
Edited on Sat Aug-22-09 01:05 PM by leveymg
Expressly forbids mock executions.

CAT has universal jurisdiction, which means that all signatories (basically, every country in the world, including the US) are bound to enforce it. If we won't, the rest are obligated to do so.

The implementing legislation in the US is the Torture Act. Imposes the death penalty for any act of torture leading to death of a non-US person.
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time_has_come Donating Member (364 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-22-09 07:37 AM
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19. This is hugh. Will anything come of it? .....
...by being exposed, something has come of it.

Will ppl be held to account? Beyond their tarnished history, probably not. But history contributes to the future, or so the saying goes, so eez still good.
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TommyPaine Donating Member (300 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-22-09 07:37 AM
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20. Ugh. Marathon Man, anyone?
I guess this was before the CIA were told that al-Qaeda members are trained in anti-interrogation methods, notably those involving torture. Or maybe they just didn't care. In any case, a morally repugnant and unreliable way to extract information.
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21. Well, isn't that special?
All the things these brave men and women did to keep us safe! I feel better already.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-22-09 07:37 AM
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22. What did Obama call these people? Brave? Honorable?
Puke.
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27. My good EFerrari, you have a way...
of getting right to the pith of a thing.

nt
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leveymg (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Aug-22-09 01:16 PM
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26. Nashiri may have been the last person who Derwish and al-Harethi talked to.
Edited on Sat Aug-22-09 01:18 PM by leveymg
Early October 2002: Al-Qaeda Leader Al-Nashiri Arrested in UAE

High-ranking al-Qaeda leader Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri is captured in the United Arab Emirates (UAE). Al-Nashiri is believed to have played a role in the 1998 African embassy bombings (see 10:35-10:39 a.m., August 7, 1998), attended a 9/11 planning summit in Malaysia in 2000 (see January 5-8, 2000), was one of the masterminds of the 2000 USS Cole bombing (see October 12, 2000), and planned the 2002 bombing of the French oil tanker Limburg (see October 6, 2002). Said to be chief of al-Qaeda’s operations in the Persian Gulf region, he is taking flight lessons in the remote UAE region of Umm Al-Qaiwain when he is arrested by local authorities and then turned over to the CIA. An unknown number of other al-Qaeda suspects are arrested with him, but apparently they are considered less important and are not handed to the CIA as well. Most reports indicate he is arrested on November 8, 2002, about two weeks before the first media leaks about his arrest. However, US News and World Report will later claim that he was arrested even earlier, early in October 2002. “Al-Nashiri soon broke; he even let officials listen in as he called his associates.” This leads to intelligence on Qaed Salim Sinan al-Harethi, a top al-Qaeda operative, and the US assassinates him with a missile strike on November 3, 2002, after trailing him for about two weeks (see November 3, 2002). Al-Nashiri will remain in secret CIA prisons until 2006 and then will be transfered to the Guantanamo Bay prison (see September 2-3, 2006).
Entity Tags: Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri

Also, see, relevant entry in Suskind's One percent Doctrine -

1. The one percent doctrine: deep inside America's pursuit of its ... - Google Books Result
by Ron Suskind - 2006 - Political Science - 367 pages
Among the dead, the CIA soon found out, was Kamal Derwish, the inspirational friend and guide to ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=0743271092...

Was Derwish talking with al-Nashiri, or was al-Harethi on the phone when the missile launched by a Predator slammed into their jeep in Yemen? Suskin says it was a passenger in al-Harethi's vehicle that was proceeding to a rendevous with al-Nashiri set up by the CIA (was Derwish's sat-phone bugged? You'd better believe it) What was the nature of that relationship between the three? The USS Cole and the Kuala Lumpur nexus again.


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