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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 11:14 PM
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Christians killed in Pakistan riots
Source: Al Jazeera English

A child and four women are among at least six Christians killed after 40 houses and a church were set ablaze amid riots with Muslims in eastern Pakistan, officials have said.

Dozens of people were also injured in the violence in Pakistan's Gojra village, which erupted after allegations surfaced that a Quran had been defiled, the officials said on Saturday.

"Six Christians including a child were killed and more than a dozen were injured in this sad incident," Shahbaz Bhatti, a federal minister of minorities, told the AFP news agency by telephone.

"Some people blamed the Christians for the desecration of the holy Quran," he said adding that the accusations were "baseless".

Read more: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2009/08/200981162630289451.html
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Duke Newcombe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 11:17 PM
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1. That's okay...
<sarcasm>They're not really oppressed...just more Christian whining, that's all. </sarcasm>
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 01:33 PM
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12. Thats right. And Muslims werent oppresed during the Crusades.
Whats your point?
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 11:18 PM
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2. RIP to the death
:(

An for those of you on this board who believe that Christians (non-Western Christians) are not persecuted, shame on you.

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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 01:35 PM
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13. OK, but whats your point?
People of all religions, orientations and colors are oppressed all over the world. Not just xtians.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-01-09 11:25 PM
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3. OMG! What horrible barbaric BS!
"Some people blamed the Christians for the desecration of the holy Quran," he said adding that the accusations were "baseless".

Such stupid religious BS. :grr:
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 12:13 AM
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4. It's a book...
The message is what is holy...
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 01:36 PM
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14. And?????
What makes the message holy? Why can it not be held up to criticism?
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 03:06 PM
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18. I don't know.
I was just trying to make a point that a material object is not God, that is if you believe in an omnipotent god.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 02:17 AM
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5. Six humans were murdered for their beliefs...
We have essentially tortured many Muslims for their beliefs... In Abu Gharib we destroyed Korans as a means of torture.

If it is persecution in Pakistan, then it is persecution here, and we have no moral highground to stand upon.
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foginthemorn Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 07:49 AM
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6. True, we have no moral highground but we can condemm it and
our President has said NO MORE. Such sorrow at these deaths.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:09 AM
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10. By that standard, no one anywhere could ever condemn wrongdoing.
No thanks.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 02:33 PM
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16. Isn't collective guilt awesome?
I hate that whole "nobody in western civilization is allowed to criticise anyone else for anything ever" idea. Way for people to encourage worse things abroad than most of our sheltered asses ever have to endure.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 02:41 PM
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17. Yeah, that attitude simply gives cover to those who do evil
by silencing anyone who would call them out for it.

It's majorly stupid, but every time someone posts something about an atrocity somewhere in the world, someone chimes in with it. You can set your watch by them.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 03:30 PM
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19. Exactly true. (nt)
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 07:54 AM
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7. Too bad people must be labeled by the fairy tale they grew up believing
:grr:
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 09:00 AM
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8. Pakistan was a stupid and nefarious idea of the brits and
a dirty trick played to not let India be truly free.

An egotistical Mahatma Gandhi and megalomaniac Nehru accepted the partition. Millions were killed and the world has a headache named Pakistan which has become a failed, tinpot state exporting terrorism everywhere.

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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 12:03 PM
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11. Communal violence wasn't invented by the British.
It's been going on for a long time, unfortunately, and each people that engages in it seems to re-invent it anew.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:03 AM
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9. normally, they give women and children the option to convert. Well, "majority Rules with iron fists
You must find "common interests" that unite the brotherhood of believers to ralley behind your cause.


nothing to see here


I'm sure those women and children were plotting evil against the righteous cause of peace

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6eb_1249218956
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donquijoterocket Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 01:39 PM
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15. blood libel
Not to condone any sort of holy violence, but the charges remind me of the blood libel by which so much Jewish blood was spilled by christians.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 05:39 PM
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20. Eight Christians burned alive in Punjab ( where's the outrage in Saudi Arabia about this ? oh wait,)
Edited on Sun Aug-02-09 05:43 PM by ohio2007
Pakistani special forces have taken control of the town of Gojra (Punjab) after yesterday’s bloody episode in which at least 8 people - including 4 women and a child of 7 years - were burned alive and 20 others wounded. At least 50 houses of Christians were burned and destroyed and thousands of faithful fled to escape execution. Relatives of the victims refuse to take care of dead bodies and do not want funerals until the culprits are arrested. Some of the killed have been identified: Hamed Masih, 50, Asia Bibi, 20; Asifa Bibi, 19, Imam Bibi, 22; Musa 7; Akhlas Masih, 40, Parveen, 50.
At least 3 thousand Muslims, after they have were incited by local religious authorities, marched to the Christian village Gojra founded 50 years ago. Groups of young Muslims - perhaps from the Sunni group Sipah-e-Sahabaha - with their faces covered started to shoot wildly. The villagers fled, but some were trapped and were killed by the uncontrollable fire unleashed by the mob.


snip

It all started weeks ago with charges of blasphemy against Talib Masih, who is accused of having burned pages of the Koran during a wedding ceremony on July 29 at Koriyan.

snip

Some Christians argue that although the police were present during the attack at Gojra, the thugs were not apprehended. Other witnesses say that after a while the police tried to stop them, but the militants also attacked the police injuring some.

Yesterday, as the news of attacks against Christians spread, in Lahore there was a demonstration to demand guarantees of freedom for Christians.



http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15943&size=A

Well,
guess its only payback time for what the Spanish did five hundred years ago allah grins in pleasure

:sarcasm:



http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6eb_1249218956
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