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Cop Who Arrested Gates Not Ruling Out Defamation LawsuitUpdated at 5:57 PM
Edited on Fri Jul-24-09 10:37 AM by kpete
Source: ABC

Cop Who Arrested Gates Not Ruling Out Defamation Lawsuit
Case Heats Up as Police Organizations Criticize Obama for Jumping Into the Controversy
By MICHELE MCPHEE, RUSSELL GOLDMAN and HUMA KHAN
July 24, 2009

The police sergeant who arrested Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. last week in his own home may be considering a defamation lawsuit against Gates who has implied his arrest was racially motivated.

Alan McDonald, who represents Sgt. James Crowley, said the veteran cop who teaches a racial profiling class for rookie police officers has not ruled out filing a defamation of character or libel lawsuit.

"He is exploring all of his options,'' McDonald told ABC News.

Though charges were dropped, Gates has loudly asserted his arrest was a result of racial profiling.


Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=8163051&page=1
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   Ugh. nt  babylonsister   Jul-24-09 10:37 AM   #1 
   A Lame Assed Racist  saigon68   Jul-24-09 01:18 PM   #45 
   Barney Fife is demanding a full retraction and  tabasco   Jul-24-09 10:39 AM   #2 
   OK, I laughed.  TwilightGardener   Jul-24-09 10:41 AM   #3 
   Hee hee shakiest gun in the west.  callous taoboy   Jul-24-09 10:42 AM   #6 
   Funny. If somebody used a similar epithet on Professor Gates you and  MUAD_DIB   Jul-24-09 10:45 AM   #7 
      Waaaaaaaaah!!!  tabasco   Jul-24-09 10:47 AM   #8 
      Actually, my assessment was accurate, and insults don't get a rise out of me.  MUAD_DIB   Jul-24-09 10:56 AM   #14 
         I thought you were "out,"  tabasco   Jul-24-09 11:00 AM   #17 
         I'm working from home, but did you have something of  MUAD_DIB   Jul-24-09 11:02 AM   #19 
         No, it was totally one-sided. Better luck next time, though.  No Elephants   Jul-24-09 12:38 PM   #40 
      Still pissed you were wrong about all of it?  Occulus   Jul-24-09 10:49 AM   #10 
      Here come the poor name callers. How original. :D  MUAD_DIB   Jul-24-09 10:57 AM   #15 
      Speaking of Shiny Objects...  earcandle   Jul-24-09 10:53 AM   #12 
      Barney Fife is an "epithet"? REALLY?  TwilightGardener   Jul-24-09 11:00 AM   #16 
      You know exactly what point I am making. Why are you being obtuse?  MUAD_DIB   Jul-24-09 11:04 AM   #20 
         Sorry, comparing a stupid police officer to a fictional stupid police officer  TwilightGardener   Jul-24-09 11:09 AM   #23 
            If a anyone posted a derogatory comment about gates you would  MUAD_DIB   Jul-24-09 11:14 AM   #25 
               Wow, you're just silly now. "Barney Fife" is a reference to the cop's job performance--  TwilightGardener   Jul-24-09 11:23 AM   #28 
                  Apologists gotta Apologize  Moochy   Jul-24-09 11:30 AM   #32 
                  No, I'm not being silly, but continue with your denials.  MUAD_DIB   Jul-24-09 01:08 PM   #42 
      your posts on this issue are some of the worst here in ages n/t  mix   Jul-24-09 11:00 AM   #18 
      So I have another "Expert" that can't answer a direct question.  MUAD_DIB   Jul-24-09 11:06 AM   #21 
         you're a spectacle...not worthy of a serious reply n/t  mix   Jul-24-09 11:08 AM   #22 
            That tells me that you can't cut it, dude.  MUAD_DIB   Jul-24-09 11:18 AM   #26 
               He's so sacred [sic] of you  Moochy   Jul-24-09 11:29 AM   #31 
               What's wrong? Can't you let him/her handle an argument on his own?  MUAD_DIB   Jul-24-09 01:09 PM   #43 
               Countless people have described the fallacy of your thinking in excruciating detail...  Iowa   Jul-24-09 04:18 PM   #46 
      I call bs. There have been lots of posts on the Gates threads claiming  No Elephants   Jul-24-09 12:36 PM   #39 
         Assumptions are being made all around DU in the last few days.  MUAD_DIB   Jul-24-09 01:15 PM   #44 
   It's official! We need a GD-Gates Forum! n/t  joeybee12   Jul-24-09 10:42 AM   #4 
   He'd better sue the whole nation nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Jul-24-09 10:42 AM   #5 
   This is so fucking media-corporate-whore-driven. Why would he "rule out" anything, unless asked?  The Stranger   Jul-24-09 10:48 AM   #9 
   a really great point  fascisthunter   Jul-24-09 11:12 AM   #24 
   Who asked the question  Spouting Horn   Jul-24-09 12:27 PM   #38 
      I was wondering that also... N/T  clixtox   Jul-24-09 12:53 PM   #41 
   Please, PLEASE let Sgt Jim Crow try to push for defamation...  Ysabela   Jul-24-09 10:53 AM   #11 
   "Sgt. Jim Crow"  Occulus   Jul-24-09 10:54 AM   #13 
   Simple question; had Gates been the same in every way EXCEPT skin color  Lorien   Jul-24-09 11:22 AM   #27 
   Simple question; had Crowley been the same in every way EXCEPT skin color  MellowDem   Jul-24-09 04:50 PM   #48 
      Yes, he would have. Crowley was behaving outside the rule of law  Lorien   Jul-24-09 08:01 PM   #49 
         I expect both Crowley and Gates will keep their yaps shut for a few days  marshall   Jul-24-09 09:40 PM   #50 
         so people have to get the police to become public SERVANTS again, not fascist pigs, like they are  earcandle   Jul-25-09 12:55 AM   #51 
   Maybe he and Gates can have dueling lawsuits?  marshall   Jul-24-09 11:24 AM   #29 
   Violating civil rights is a FEDERAL offense, isn't it?  rocktivity   Jul-24-09 11:48 AM   #33 
      With exceptions, yes  marshall   Jul-24-09 11:50 AM   #34 
   If he sues, and proves himself to be a big fat baby...  Iggo   Jul-24-09 11:24 AM   #30 
   Well, there's your evidence. He teaches a class  louis-t   Jul-24-09 12:12 PM   #35 
   Keep digging that hole deeper copper...  aquamarina   Jul-24-09 12:12 PM   #36 
   The officer did not assess the situation correctly..  FloriTexan   Jul-24-09 12:25 PM   #37 
   ........  captain jack   Jul-24-09 04:31 PM   #47 
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 10:37 AM
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1. Ugh. nt
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 01:18 PM
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45. A Lame Assed Racist
Maybe Rim Job will put him on the Joe the Plumber Tour

Coming to a trailer park near you.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 10:39 AM
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2. Barney Fife is demanding a full retraction and
the other four bullets for his revolver!!!!
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jul-24-09 10:41 AM
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3. OK, I laughed.
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callous taoboy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 10:42 AM
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6. Hee hee shakiest gun in the west.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 10:45 AM
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7. Funny. If somebody used a similar epithet on Professor Gates you and
many DUers, myself included, would be collectively hitting the alert button


This whole thing has become farce. Enjoy your shiny objects.


I'm out.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 10:47 AM
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8. Waaaaaaaaah!!!
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 10:56 AM
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14. Actually, my assessment was accurate, and insults don't get a rise out of me.
Edited on Fri Jul-24-09 10:59 AM by MUAD_DIB



Now maybe if you actually had something to reply with... ;)
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 11:00 AM
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17. I thought you were "out,"
Jim Rome wannabe. :shrug:


Make it so. :dunce:
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 11:02 AM
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19. I'm working from home, but did you have something of

merit to add?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 12:38 PM
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40. No, it was totally one-sided. Better luck next time, though.
Edited on Fri Jul-24-09 12:38 PM by No Elephants
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 10:49 AM
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10. Still pissed you were wrong about all of it?
Edited on Fri Jul-24-09 10:53 AM by Occulus
Poor baby.

Here. Go read this before you piss and moan about "shiny objects". It probably won't do you any good- especially since it was explained to you in tedious detail on the other threads covering this incident- but at least it'll give you something to do other than dig yourself in deeper.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 10:57 AM
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15. Here come the poor name callers. How original. :D

Instead of linking to another thread why don't you, and I mean you, try addressing my point.

Are you able to?
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 10:53 AM
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12. Speaking of Shiny Objects...Updated at 3:19 AM
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jul-24-09 11:00 AM
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16. Barney Fife is an "epithet"? REALLY?
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 11:04 AM
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20. You know exactly what point I am making. Why are you being obtuse?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jul-24-09 11:09 AM
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23. Sorry, comparing a stupid police officer to a fictional stupid police officer
doesn't rise to the definition of "epithet", comparable to racial or cultural epithets that are truly hurtful and damaging.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 11:14 AM
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25. If a anyone posted a derogatory comment about gates you would

be screaming for his head.

An attack is an attack: either racial or personal.


So, again, why are you being obtuse?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jul-24-09 11:23 AM
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28. Wow, you're just silly now. "Barney Fife" is a reference to the cop's job performance--
that's not necessarily personal. That's saying he's a fuck-up in regard to his role as a cop. Calling an inept soldier "Gomer Pyle" would be the same thing. Calling somebody a racial epithet is attacking something that they can't change about themselves--THAT'S personal, and also offends an entire culture or race. There's no equivalence. You are really reaching.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 11:30 AM
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32. Apologists gotta Apologize
Edited on Fri Jul-24-09 11:31 AM by Moochy
birds gotta fly etc.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 01:08 PM
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42. No, I'm not being silly, but continue with your denials.

That's all you've got.

:rofl:
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 11:00 AM
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18. your posts on this issue are some of the worst here in ages n/t
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 11:06 AM
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21. So I have another "Expert" that can't answer a direct question.

So you can only throw your poop and not much else. Good luck to you with that.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 11:08 AM
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22. you're a spectacle...not worthy of a serious reply n/t
Edited on Fri Jul-24-09 11:09 AM by mix
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 11:18 AM
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26. That tells me that you can't cut it, dude.

If you're so sacred of actually arguing your point without resorting to the ad hominem attack then you have failed.


Live with it.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 11:29 AM
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31. He's so sacred [sic] of you
Ooh a fight a fight!! you are posting stupidly in the past few days, I'll agree with this summation and add you to the happy ignore stupid button.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 01:09 PM
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43. What's wrong? Can't you let him/her handle an argument on his own?

Go ahead and ignore me. You just lost.
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 04:18 PM
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46. Countless people have described the fallacy of your thinking in excruciating detail...
...in other threads. But you apparently have a different way of viewing the world than most people here. You leave the impression that you are inclined to align with authority, and you try to present that bias as being "fair and balanced". But the folks who post here see right through that; Fox News has been doing it for years. The truth is seldom balanced.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 12:36 PM
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39. I call bs. There have been lots of posts on the Gates threads claiming
Edited on Fri Jul-24-09 12:36 PM by No Elephants
Gates would never have treated an African American cop the same way, or made the same claims. That is calling Gates racist. I did not notice you or most others here rushing to Gates's defense on that one.

There were also posts asking if the African American cop on the scene had been racist, too, as if black Americans can't possibly be racist--and therefore Gates was lying.

So, there are plenty of posts at DU that assume certain things based solely upon the color of one's skin and no one blinks an eye (or few)..
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 01:15 PM
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44. Assumptions are being made all around DU in the last few days.

It is easier that asking legitimate questions and expecting honest debate in return.

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4. It's official! We need a GD-Gates Forum! n/t
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 10:42 AM
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5. He'd better sue the whole nation nt
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The Stranger (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 10:48 AM
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9. This is so fucking media-corporate-whore-driven. Why would he "rule out" anything, unless asked?
The corporate-whore-media is pushing this.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jul-24-09 11:12 AM
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24. a really great point
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Spouting Horn (309 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 12:27 PM
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38. Who asked the question
at the presser?
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clixtox Donating Member (786 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 12:53 PM
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41. I was wondering that also... N/T
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Ysabela (143 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 10:53 AM
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11. Please, PLEASE let Sgt Jim Crow try to push for defamation...
It'll open up such a can of worms on his racist ass.

I'm just glad the public has his real name...
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 10:54 AM
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13. "Sgt. Jim Crow"
:rofl:

Fitting.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 11:22 AM
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27. Simple question; had Gates been the same in every way EXCEPT skin color
would the cops have behaved as they did? Of course not! Breaking into a person's home and arresting them without a warrant is unlawful and unconstitutional. The cop should be dismissed from duty.
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 04:50 PM
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48. Simple question; had Crowley been the same in every way EXCEPT skin color
would Gates have behaved as he did? Of course not!






:eyes:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 08:01 PM
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49. Yes, he would have. Crowley was behaving outside the rule of law
read the Constitution. :eyes:
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marshall (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 09:40 PM
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50. I expect both Crowley and Gates will keep their yaps shut for a few days
More info is coming out fast and furious, back tracking is following statements made without full knowledge of what happened. Everyone will step back and it will likely just die down.
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-25-09 12:55 AM
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51. so people have to get the police to become public SERVANTS again, not fascist pigs, like they are Updated at 3:19 AM
trying to assert they have the right to be, without addressing
the freedom of speech violation going on here.

The cop should have asked for ID, after being secure that the
man was not violent nor dangerous.

To consider that he would be pissed off that a cop was now
invading his world, is not hard to do.
The police should be trained in the character,
intelligence,and goodwill to police in an American worldview.

We have too many rights and privileges to be arrested for
standing ground in our own spaces.

This is absurd. We cannot let the cops win this argument. 
This can happen in any race if it happens 
to turn into an insult to the cops and not to the home owner
who was violated because he left his keys
somewhere and was perturbed.

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marshall (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 11:24 AM
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29. Maybe he and Gates can have dueling lawsuits?
And hopefully cancel each other out.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jul-24-09 11:48 AM
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33. Violating civil rights is a FEDERAL offense, isn't it?Updated at 11:46 AM
:evilgrin:
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marshall (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 11:50 AM
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34. With exceptions, yes
And that will be the bone of contention.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 11:24 AM
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30. If he sues, and proves himself to be a big fat baby...
...how can he show his face anymore at the cop stop?

Be a man, officer.
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louis-t (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 12:12 PM
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35. Well, there's your evidence. He teaches a class
on racial profiling. :eyes:
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aquamarina Donating Member (557 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-24-09 12:12 PM
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36. Keep digging that hole deeper copper...
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37. The officer did not assess the situation correctly..
First, the officer let it get out of hand. The police report stated that the woman who called it in was waiting in front of the house when the police arrived along with other bystanders. The first thing he should have done was to ask the crowd to move out of sight, at least a safe distance away from the scene. That single action would have gone a long way in diffusing the situation. If there truly was a burglary in process and the perps were still in the house, they could have been armed and dangerous and all those people would have been standing around outside possibly in the line of fire. That was stupid.

Gates was probably stunned to see a crowd of people outside his house, some snapping pictures and/or videos as I have seen written. Cops on his doorstep. I would not want to step out into that either.

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47. ........
Edited on Fri Jul-24-09 04:36 PM by captain jack
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