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Thu Jul-16-09 12:15 PM
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| Teen Cheyenne Cherry taunts animal activists after guilty plea for killing kitten in oven |
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Source: New York Daily NewsA heartless kitty killer hissed angrily at animal rights activists Wednesday, grinning widely as she took credit for stuffing the helpless pet into a 500-degree oven. "It's dead, bitch!" snapped an unrepentant Cheyenne Cherry, sticking her tongue out after a plea bargain that will put her behind bars for a year in the May 6 killing of tiny Tiger Lily. Cherry, 17, was confronted after her guilty plea in Bronx Supreme Court to charges of animal cruelty and attempted burglary in the May 6 killing at her former roommate's apartment. Tiger Lily was left to die inside the blistering oven after Cherry and a 14-year-old friend trashed the apartment of Valerie Hernandez, destroying furniture before stealing DVDs and food. After her arrest, Cherry told police the cat killing was "just a joke." Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/07/15/200...
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Cheyenne Cherry? What a porn name! nt |
valerief |
Jul-16-09 12:18 PM |
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This girl needs psychiatric evaluation. I believe she is a sociopath |
hedgehog |
Jul-16-09 12:19 PM |
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Her behavior is certainly scary |
JerseygirlCT |
Jul-16-09 02:09 PM |
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Charming. |
AspenRose |
Jul-16-09 12:20 PM |
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She sounds like a full blown psychopath |
dflprincess |
Jul-16-09 12:25 PM |
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Yes, the enabling started early (nt) |
SteveM |
Jul-16-09 12:48 PM |
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Her hairdo does a good job of hiding her horns.... |
SacredCow |
Jul-16-09 12:21 PM |
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Move a little closer to the edge, sweetie.. |
left coaster |
Jul-16-09 02:58 PM |
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Woops |
complain jane |
Jul-16-09 09:20 PM |
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Looks like she can't decide if she should practice |
complain jane |
Jul-16-09 09:18 PM |
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Jesus H. Christ. She looks like a sweet little girl scout! nt |
MADem |
Jul-18-09 03:48 PM |
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sociopath |
fascisthunter |
Jul-16-09 12:22 PM |
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Quick, nominate her to the Supreme Court. |
Bette Noir |
Jul-16-09 12:30 PM |
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Easy solution.... |
WriteDown |
Jul-16-09 12:31 PM |
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me too, there are way way too many humans anyway |
natrat |
Jul-16-09 12:38 PM |
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I would keep her around... |
WriteDown |
Jul-16-09 12:45 PM |
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Yes. Mutilating a human is so much more commendable than killing a kitty. |
No Elephants |
Jul-16-09 12:57 PM |
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We're not talking about a human here. nt. |
WriteDown |
Jul-16-09 12:58 PM |
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Agreed. A fiend in human form. |
Coventina |
Jul-16-09 01:35 PM |
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Sounds too lenient... |
WriteDown |
Jul-16-09 01:40 PM |
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I'm basing this "solution" on what is currently theorized about sociopaths. |
Coventina |
Jul-16-09 01:47 PM |
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"Sociopath" - The new phrenology |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jul-16-09 02:37 PM |
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I know - suddenly everyone's a psychiatrist. n/t |
bitchkitty |
Jul-16-09 04:08 PM |
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So what should be done with her then? And I'd love to hear a |
Coventina |
Jul-16-09 05:14 PM |
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maybe this .... |
SWr |
Jul-16-09 06:44 PM |
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Only death row and solitary confinement prisoners sit in their cells watching Oprah |
jmowreader |
Jul-19-09 09:37 PM |
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What brought about that bizarre comment? |
depakid |
Jul-17-09 08:41 PM |
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Almost |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jul-18-09 10:40 AM |
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I guess Robert Hare and tons of others would completely disagree |
depakid |
Jul-20-09 12:06 AM |
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well she's getting a year, why don't we see how that works? |
pitohui |
Jul-17-09 09:12 PM |
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In that year if she doesn't get treament of any kind she will surely |
MadMaddie |
Jul-18-09 07:10 PM |
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Saying it does not make it so. I might say the same of you, given your |
No Elephants |
Jul-17-09 10:32 AM |
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Minor? More like monster. |
WriteDown |
Jul-17-09 01:04 PM |
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Yes, We Are... |
DrCory |
Jul-18-09 09:21 AM |
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That's how I feel too. |
snake in the grass |
Jul-19-09 08:42 PM |
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I'm surprised the judge didn't give her more time |
ayeshahaqqiqa |
Jul-16-09 12:43 PM |
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At least she's repentant |
JonQ |
Jul-16-09 12:43 PM |
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I'm against the death penalty |
FiveGoodMen |
Jul-16-09 12:46 PM |
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I am too. |
TheWatcher |
Jul-17-09 03:13 PM |
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This girl MIGHT be able to be saved |
Downtown Hound |
Jul-16-09 12:46 PM |
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Chop her thumbs off and be done with her.... |
WriteDown |
Jul-16-09 12:50 PM |
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Very progressive of you. n/t |
Downtown Hound |
Jul-16-09 03:02 PM |
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No sympathy for remorseless animal cruelty. nt |
WriteDown |
Jul-16-09 03:12 PM |
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Unfortunately, our "system" has the worst of both worlds... |
SteveM |
Jul-16-09 12:54 PM |
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From the article: |
Bluenorthwest |
Jul-16-09 01:55 PM |
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I don't think she is your normal criminal in which such things would work... |
Regret My New Name |
Jul-16-09 05:13 PM |
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Even people with major mental problems can be helped |
Downtown Hound |
Jul-16-09 05:19 PM |
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Hey, I'm all for helping her.. Medicate or whatever she needs, but.... |
Regret My New Name |
Jul-16-09 05:28 PM |
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sure .. |
SWr |
Jul-16-09 06:18 PM |
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Not a chance |
Doctor_J |
Jul-17-09 12:01 PM |
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saved ???????? she is already ruined |
JI7 |
Jul-17-09 05:40 PM |
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Shout out to all the DU animal lovers and pet rescue folks for making a difference in the face of |
zonkers |
Jul-16-09 12:52 PM |
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What a fucking psycho. |
Libertas1776 |
Jul-16-09 12:58 PM |
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Mockery of animal rights activists is routine practice. |
Unvanguard |
Jul-16-09 01:31 PM |
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Touche. n/t |
superduperfarleft |
Jul-16-09 01:59 PM |
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Mockery of animal rigts activists is standard DU behavior, unfortunately. nt |
Codeine |
Jul-16-09 02:03 PM |
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Seperate Issues |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Jul-16-09 02:10 PM |
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And that's what makes the reaction to cases like this so profoundly ironic. |
Unvanguard |
Jul-16-09 02:15 PM |
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Being right in this instance |
JonQ |
Jul-16-09 03:14 PM |
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True, in principle. |
Unvanguard |
Jul-16-09 03:25 PM |
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But I think a coherent theory can be devised |
JonQ |
Jul-16-09 03:39 PM |
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I find Peter Singer to have a fairly coherent theory on the subject. |
Ignis |
Jul-16-09 04:06 PM |
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The part about consensual sex with animals? |
JonQ |
Jul-16-09 04:55 PM |
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Yes, that's obviously the core of Singer's philosophy. |
Ignis |
Jul-16-09 08:52 PM |
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Yes |
JonQ |
Jul-17-09 10:09 AM |
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It's not abounding in pith, though, is it? |
Ignis |
Jul-17-09 01:48 PM |
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Or Gary Francione. |
superduperfarleft |
Jul-17-09 08:50 AM |
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Yeah, yeah. Burn the vegan heretic! |
Ignis |
Jul-17-09 01:42 PM |
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Oh bullshit, PETA deserves mockery for their methods. |
Arkana |
Jul-16-09 08:40 PM |
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When they used the murder of Dr. Tiller to promote their organization, that was the last straw. NT |
MADem |
Jul-18-09 03:53 PM |
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What a vile, disgusting waste of a human being...! |
mtf80123 |
Jul-16-09 01:41 PM |
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hope the cat comes back to haunt her |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Jul-16-09 01:48 PM |
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I feel sick. |
mlevans |
Jul-16-09 02:07 PM |
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You're not alone... |
GoddessOfGuinness |
Jul-16-09 03:12 PM |
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i know... |
MrsBrady |
Jul-16-09 03:25 PM |
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I wish we knew more about the brain... |
GoddessOfGuinness |
Jul-16-09 04:30 PM |
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yea... |
MrsBrady |
Jul-16-09 04:34 PM |
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It's the cry, even imagined, I think, that triggers a response in me |
GoddessOfGuinness |
Jul-16-09 05:33 PM |
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that's how my husband felt |
MrsBrady |
Jul-16-09 06:11 PM |
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Took a stray in last year... |
GoddessOfGuinness |
Jul-16-09 06:26 PM |
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i know.... |
MrsBrady |
Jul-16-09 08:37 PM |
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That's a child who needs a great deal of help. |
JerseygirlCT |
Jul-16-09 02:09 PM |
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She'll make a great FReeper. Don't believe me? READ THIS. |
Faygo Kid |
Jul-16-09 02:26 PM |
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.... !?! |
chatnoir |
Jul-16-09 05:44 PM |
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couldn't have said it better. n/t |
MrsBrady |
Jul-16-09 08:38 PM |
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I like your sig image |
complain jane |
Jul-16-09 09:16 PM |
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thanks... |
MrsBrady |
Jul-16-09 09:28 PM |
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Holy shit. What the fuck is wrong with that Freeper?! |
DangerousRhythm |
Jul-17-09 06:06 AM |
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The matter-of-fact tone of that message is chilling . . . |
tilsammans |
Jul-17-09 02:54 PM |
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sick, sick person. in the local rag today, a story about an "american idol" would-be |
niyad |
Jul-16-09 02:33 PM |
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Another person who needs to suffer a bit..... |
WriteDown |
Jul-16-09 02:54 PM |
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I'd like to see this sort of thing classified as a hate crime, with a |
Vidar |
Jul-16-09 02:36 PM |
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Here's a serial killer in the making |
DebbieCDC |
Jul-16-09 02:39 PM |
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That poor kitten. May it rest in peace. nt |
wroberts189 |
Jul-16-09 02:52 PM |
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I wonder if she will find our prisons "just a joke" nt |
wroberts189 |
Jul-16-09 02:54 PM |
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I imagine she's the kind... |
LanternWaste |
Jul-16-09 03:06 PM |
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I know a lot of people who say things like "I love cauliflower, yummy" in front of me... |
Regret My New Name |
Jul-16-09 05:26 PM |
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With malice? |
LanternWaste |
Jul-16-09 05:46 PM |
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I'm morally opposed to cauliflower's existence. |
Regret My New Name |
Jul-17-09 12:55 AM |
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Possibly because it was not said with malice |
LanternWaste |
Jul-17-09 05:33 PM |
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Okay... |
Regret My New Name |
Jul-17-09 11:15 PM |
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Still saying she should be executed. |
BreweryYardRat |
Jul-16-09 03:38 PM |
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Not me. |
complain jane |
Jul-16-09 05:39 PM |
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Death too easy for this twisted waste of skin |
chatnoir |
Jul-16-09 05:42 PM |
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If it was up to me, I'd have her killed |
slackmaster |
Jul-17-09 08:34 AM |
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let's see--georgie bush used to abuse animals, and look what happened to him. |
niyad |
Jul-16-09 03:47 PM |
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lady of the beasts, lady bast, please notice this person, and deal with her accordingly. |
niyad |
Jul-16-09 03:47 PM |
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She's flat out crazy and needs serious long term help in an institutional |
Zorra |
Jul-16-09 04:27 PM |
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A plague on both their houses. |
damntexdem |
Jul-16-09 04:45 PM |
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So she |
complain jane |
Jul-16-09 05:29 PM |
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17 and (according to the article) already on her 3rd violent felony. |
flvegan |
Jul-16-09 05:49 PM |
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Sad case for all involved. This kid should have had intervention long ago. Probably too late now. |
RBInMaine |
Jul-16-09 06:33 PM |
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she deserves a hell of a lot more than one year for those crimes |
rollin74 |
Jul-16-09 07:55 PM |
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Sociopathic bitch. |
Arkana |
Jul-16-09 08:39 PM |
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Yeah |
complain jane |
Jul-16-09 09:16 PM |
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Total fucking sickness and idiocy. |
Boddingham |
Jul-16-09 09:18 PM |
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a year in jail for all that destruction... it's a good thing she wasn't smoking a joint |
ixion |
Jul-17-09 08:11 AM |
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Believe I'll just set a Google news alert so I'm sure to know when and |
mbperrin |
Jul-17-09 08:45 AM |
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Sounds good. |
complain jane |
Jul-17-09 11:57 AM |
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Ms. Cherry will be a case study of a serial killer in 20 years |
Doctor_J |
Jul-17-09 12:00 PM |
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Is she the daughter of the |
sabrina 1 |
Jul-17-09 12:37 PM |
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This sort of thing makes me see the benefit of using google for checking the background of potential |
lindisfarne |
Jul-17-09 01:08 PM |
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What a piece of shit she is.. |
and-justice-for-all |
Jul-17-09 02:50 PM |
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This little piece of shit better watch herself. |
TheWatcher |
Jul-17-09 03:08 PM |
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there are no words |
marketcrazy1 |
Jul-17-09 07:23 PM |
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My dad worked for a State prison system (psychologist), one of the inmates |
Lorien |
Jul-17-09 08:21 PM |
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She sounds as double dipped stupid as |
Cha |
Jul-18-09 04:56 PM |
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"agreed not to keep a pet for the next three years" |
dana_b |
Jul-19-09 09:32 PM |
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Thu Jul-16-09 12:18 PM
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| 1. Cheyenne Cherry? What a porn name! nt |
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Thu Jul-16-09 12:19 PM
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| 2. This girl needs psychiatric evaluation. I believe she is a sociopath |
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and a clear hazard to others.
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Thu Jul-16-09 02:09 PM
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| 33. Her behavior is certainly scary |
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That doesn't read like a sane person, to me.
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Thu Jul-16-09 12:20 PM
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A sociopath in the making.
"Cherry is not new to animal crimes. She was busted last year for using a BB gun to dog-nap a teacup Yorkie with her boyfriend. She was also arrested for robbing a man of his iPod at gunpoint."
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Thu Jul-16-09 12:25 PM
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| 6. She sounds like a full blown psychopath |
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It's a pity she can't be forced to wear a tracking collar (or ankle bracelet) for the rest of her life so we'd know where she is at all times.
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Thu Jul-16-09 12:48 PM
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| 15. Yes, the enabling started early (nt) |
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Thu Jul-16-09 12:21 PM
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| 4. Her hairdo does a good job of hiding her horns.... |
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Thu Jul-16-09 02:58 PM
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| 44. Move a little closer to the edge, sweetie.. |
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"So? I pushed her. It was a joke."
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Thu Jul-16-09 09:18 PM
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| 88. Looks like she can't decide if she should practice |
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putting her hands behind her head or the actual behind-the-back handcuffing...
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Sat Jul-18-09 03:48 PM
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| 121. Jesus H. Christ. She looks like a sweet little girl scout! nt |
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Thu Jul-16-09 12:22 PM
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Thu Jul-16-09 12:30 PM
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| 7. Quick, nominate her to the Supreme Court. |
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No empathy there, at all. The Repubs will love her.
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Thu Jul-16-09 12:31 PM
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Take her over the Bronx zoo to meet some real kitties.
I am seeing red right now. I seriously hope something very bad happens to this person.
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Thu Jul-16-09 12:38 PM
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| 9. me too, there are way way too many humans anyway |
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Thu Jul-16-09 12:45 PM
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| 12. I would keep her around... |
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maybe chop off her thumbs. That should convey the message.
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Thu Jul-16-09 12:57 PM
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| 19. Yes. Mutilating a human is so much more commendable than killing a kitty. |
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Thu Jul-16-09 12:58 PM
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| 20. We're not talking about a human here. nt. |
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Thu Jul-16-09 01:35 PM
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| 23. Agreed. A fiend in human form. |
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Although I don't think her thumbs should be cut off.
What I do think is that she needs to be locked away forever and kept heavily drugged up.
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Thu Jul-16-09 01:40 PM
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but if that was my only option, I'd accept it.
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Thu Jul-16-09 01:47 PM
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| 26. I'm basing this "solution" on what is currently theorized about sociopaths. |
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There is something intrinsically wrong with them that cannot be fixed. If they don't learn rules of behavior early (and this one clearly did not) then they will always be a danger to others weaker than themselves. (Her next victim is likely to be a child, a disabled person, or an elderly person).
So, the most merciful thing for both society and her is that she be kept OUT of society, and given mind-altering drugs that will hopefully somewhat control her behavior.
Research so far shows that sociopaths cannot be rehabilitated. Their lack of empathy for anyone or anything is extremely dangerous to those around them.
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Thu Jul-16-09 02:37 PM
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| 39. "Sociopath" - The new phrenology |
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In a hundred years children will laugh at this silly designation. What's scary is that it drives policy today. And public opinion.
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Thu Jul-16-09 04:08 PM
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| 57. I know - suddenly everyone's a psychiatrist. n/t |
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Thu Jul-16-09 05:14 PM
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| 64. So what should be done with her then? And I'd love to hear a |
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cheerier account of what could be done to fix her.
Really, it doesn't sit well with me to say that some people can't be helped, but that's what is currently believed about these cases. Unless there has been a recent development that I haven't heard of.
So please inform me.
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Thu Jul-16-09 06:44 PM
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5 years hard labor prisons are too soft on criminals. They should be working, growing their own food and spending their time working hard to improve the community. Sitting in a cell all day watching Oprah does no one good and isnt repaying your debt to society.
Compassion training
Psychological help
Intervention program
Medication if necessary.
Will it work? Most likely not but we can say we gave it the college try.
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Sun Jul-19-09 09:37 PM
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| 127. Only death row and solitary confinement prisoners sit in their cells watching Oprah |
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Prisoners in General Population are required to work, to pay for the cost of housing them.
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Fri Jul-17-09 08:41 PM
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| 116. What brought about that bizarre comment? |
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Lack of understanding and appreciation of the science?
Or disdain for DUers noting that the girl seems to fit the pattern?
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Disdain for the pseudoscience. 
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Mon Jul-20-09 12:06 AM
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| 128. I guess Robert Hare and tons of others would completely disagree |
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Fri Jul-17-09 09:12 PM
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| 117. well she's getting a year, why don't we see how that works? |
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Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 09:24 PM by pitohui
i certainly know of sociopaths who can turn it off and on if they realize that their behavior is going to earn them a harsh punishment -- right now she's just talking shit and putting up a false front of bravado -- her attitude might be a little different a year from now -- it is HIGHLY unusual for a female to progress to being a serial killer so maybe we can tone down the hysteria and the OMFG just a "tad" -- not all sociopaths kill, it is POSSIBLE for them to learn that killing will get them in a lot of trouble even if they can't learn empathy
there's something wrong with her, for sure, but there is also something wrong with us if we advocate for giving someone mind-altering drugs for life, we should just kill them (capital punishment) rather than destroy their brain FOR LIFE and i hope we can agree that capital punishment is just not quite right for killing a cat
on edit-- having read further, apparently we can't all agree that on the capital punishment thing, apparently some people are cool with having a convicted cat killer executed -- WTF? it's a cat, they are killed every day in shelters, you are just not going to be able to make a reasonable argument that killing a cat is worth the taking of a human life
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We will be hearing about her in the future.
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This is why we have laws where we are allowed to try some as adults.
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Like it or not this woman is a human being, and advocating the torture of humans is NOT a liberal or progressive value. Liberals and progressives do not allow exceptions to core beliefs to satisfy emotional desires. THAT is a characteristic of the "other side". It is under these circumstances that our integrity is severely tested. To maintain the integrity of our ideology, we must apply the same standard to her we do the victims of Abu Ghraib.
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Put her in the tiger cage and let her see what a real cat is capable of. Either that or make soylent green out of her. At least she'd then be benefiting society.
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after that performance. This is one seriously twisted individual--and it is likely the next creature she kills will be two legged.
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No doubt she's learned her lesson and will fly straight from now on. I imagine the penal system has seen the last of this fine young lady. 
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if our penal system focused on rehabilitation, counseling, cognitive behavioral therapy, education, job training, and closely monitored offenders of this type after release.
But since it doesn't, she is either a death row inmate or a lifer to be. A waste of life all around.
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| 47. No sympathy for remorseless animal cruelty. nt |
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The first SEVERAL crimes are enabled, coddled, and hand-held. Then, the hard no-rehab jail time. The result? An arrogant, publicity-seeking (and getting) thug who commits even more dangerous crimes down the road.
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"Cherry is not new to animal crimes. She was busted last year for using a BB gun to dog-nap a teacup Yorkie with her boyfriend. She was also arrested for robbing a man of his iPod at gunpoint."
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She sounds like she has some major mental problems. Maybe I'm wrong, but I wouldn't want to be around her.
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Not saying it would work with her, but since even on one of the most progressive boards on the internet are people not willing to even entertain the idea and instead opt for the two minute hate, it's definitely not going to happen in this lifetime.
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I would not want her roaming the streets.
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Statistics say otherwise. Ive volunteered for many years with youth organizations. Despite the social workers who 90% of the time are wrong and think "everyone can be saved"  That's their job though. The volunteers, volunteer cops, and parole officers can pretty much tell who's who and what they are going to become after about an hour and looking at their record. The cold reality of the world today is in the inner cities you reach only a few the rest are beyond your help.
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way too far gone. She is a sociopath. If she doesn't spend the rest of her life incarcerated, she will end up as Henry Lee Lucas or George W. Bush.
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| 113. saved ???????? she is already ruined |
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this was a violent crime.
different from things like drug use, shoplifting etc.
fuck her, and just look at her reaction here. she still isn't sorry for what she did and mocking others upset about it.
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horrible stories like this. It happens I guess. Angry damaged people. Anyway, let's keep fighting to protect those who can't protect themselves, human or animal.
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Can you say budding sociopath? This whack job needs to be locked up for a hell of a lot longer than a freaking year.
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It's nice to see that, at least when the abuse concerns kittens, it is deemed fit for disapproval.
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| 30. Mockery of animal rigts activists is standard DU behavior, unfortunately. nt |
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Animal abuse will rightly be condemned and has no bearing on how animal rights people are treated.
I do not abuse animals but I do ridicule PETA and such every time there are opportunities
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Edited on Thu Jul-16-09 02:15 PM by Unvanguard
The arbitrariness of mainstream standards of moral decency in this area would be hilarious, were it not harmful enough to be sickening.
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For instance: Ron Paul voted against the Iraq war, therefore liberals shouldn't criticize his other stances on other subjects.
Peta came out against burning kittens alive on which we all agree, therefore comparing eating lobsters to the holocaust is correct and above criticism.
Animal rights activists go too far all the time and have more than their share of loons, that doesn't mean they're always wrong.
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But it's simple hypocrisy when the reactions are not tied to any coherent theory on the subject, but simply to our culture's preference for animals we consider "cute" and keep as pets.
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that is not hypocritical.
For instance; killing animals for our benefit is acceptable, killing them for no purpose is not. This is assuming you have a right to kill the animal at all, you may not kill someone elses pet even if you were planning on eating it later (excepting self defense).
If they are to be killed for our benefit it should be done as quickly and painlessly as possible.
And we should always keep a special eye on those who torture animals for fun (both to protect animals from needless harm and that's a pretty good indicator of mental health issues).
So I think it would be fine to criticize this woman for A) killing an animal that was someone elses pet in a B) particularly cruel manner for C) no other purpose than sadistic joy. And it would not be hypocritical to criticize her, while enjoying a delicious hamburger.
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Or it just could possibly be that ethics are just as important as aesthetics (taste) when deciding what to eat.
But you obviously have a different theory on the subject. I'm all ears.
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I am opposed to sex with animals.
And I presented my theory on the subject a few comments upthread. Thought they were pretty concise.
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For example, you don't define "benefit," and you don't address the weighting of the benefit to one species vs. detriment to another.
Don't you think those are important elements in the ethical calculus of animal rights?
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| 25. What a vile, disgusting waste of a human being...! |
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| 27. hope the cat comes back to haunt her |
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my husband called me all upset. he was at work and I didn't know what the hell was going on. this story really got to him...poor guy.  I don't believe in the death penalty, but cruelty to animals makes me rethink that sometimes. *sigh*
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...so they could determine what kind of damage makes some people act so cruelly. If they could repair it early on, maybe there wouldn't even be cases like this one.
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no body wins here. certainly not the kitty 
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that wants to help the poor kitten...then frustration because there's nothing I can do. 
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...I forget what a sweet guy he is...and then something like this happens. Makes me know he's a good guy if something like this gets to him....hell, it got to me. I would be worried if it didn't, I guess. Just forget that the tall manly-man is a softy to the core.
We just rescued a kitty, even though we really don't have the room for her...what was she supposed to do? She can't help herself!!!
At least the poor thing is in heaven. More than I can say for the young woman. again.. *sigh*
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...when the weather got really bitter cold. I had been feeding him, and when chilly weather came along, I made a little shelter for him and put a hot-water bottle in it. When the temps hit the teens, he came inside. The other two cats didn't mind too much. He's such a dear sweet kitty...sits on my lap and purrs. You'd never know he was an alley cat. 
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this little thing. she's barely 9 pounds....tiny tiny tiny. We've been calling her "mow mow", 'cuz that's how she talks. ...and a cudle cat. We know she's over two years old. Our other three are typically aloof, until they want an ear scratch. (The dog of course if ever jealous) We are trying to find a home for this stray, but we will keep her as long as she needs a home. She's the love bug. We finally found our cuddle cat, and now we have to find her a lap.  The weird thing was...about a month ago...we had a bad storm come through, funnel clouds, the whole 9 yards. That was the day she finally wanted to be "gotten". I think she knew how bad it would be that night. She slept for 3 days when we got her. She'd only wake up to eat. She was exhausted. These are pictures of her right before we got her to come inside with us. ![]() ![]()  ![]() 
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| 32. That's a child who needs a great deal of help. |
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| 36. She'll make a great FReeper. Don't believe me? READ THIS. |
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Sorry for the caps. Here's what was just posted on THEIR thread over there:
Teen Cheyenne Cherry taunts animal activists after guilty plea for killing kitten in oven Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:22:27 PM · 83 of 83 RobRoy to WVKayaker
I killed a litter of kittens a few decades ago just before the family hopped in the car for our two week vacation to Disneyland. I put ‘em in a sack and smacked it a few times with a bat and then made sure they were all dead, then threw the sack in the garbage - the same place I put chicken bones and left over ribs.
Interestingly, I have never in my life had an urge to cause physical harm to ANY human being.
I understand the chasm that exists between the value of human beings and natural resources.
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| 82. couldn't have said it better. n/t |
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when i saw others doing this to their picture, I couldn't resist. My husband's dog. My step-dog. He's our boy.
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That's just beyond disgusting. Seriously, who TELLS people that like they're proud? I can't even express how disgusted I am right now, with my own cat laying at the foot of my bed. This is just plain fucking sad. I can't even comprehend what kind of monster would do that and then BRAG about it on that shitty fucking website. Fuck!
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. . . that is one fucked-up individual. 
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| 37. sick, sick person. in the local rag today, a story about an "american idol" would-be |
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Maybe bring back "the box" like in Cool Hand Luke.
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much more severe penalty, but I'm not usually consulted by the government.
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Thu Jul-16-09 02:39 PM
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| 40. Here's a serial killer in the making |
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They all start out tortuing animals. This kind of shit makes me angrier than words can express.
Disgusting little bitch.
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| 41. That poor kitten. May it rest in peace. nt |
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| 42. I wonder if she will find our prisons "just a joke" nt |
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I imagine she's the kind of person who says, "yum-- venison!" or "I love ham!" with malice in front of vegans...
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With malice or simply as a joke? Do you avoid cauliflower because you dislike it, or because you're morally opposed to ingesting it?
These are precise and relevant differences, you see...
(Insults are funny things-- they can be found anywhere if you look hard enough, even in places where they don't exist...)
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Well, I suppose I view as joke either way. Mostly because I've never known any vegetarians who got upset if anyone said "Mmmm, I like dead pig flesh"
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"Mostly because I've never known any vegetarians who got upset if anyone said "Mmmm, I like dead pig flesh" ..." Possibly because it was not said with malice. It goes to intent you see. As I said previously, a precise and relevant difference. Am I making the difference clear? I can try a few other ways (metaphor, small words, etc) if it helps you understand that in my opening position, the word "malice" was consciously placed with purpose and as a precise qualifier... 
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I'm not really sure what I'm arguing here... I made a light hearted comment about cauliflower... I mean, I don't disagree that this girl is a sick person or anything... I dunno?
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| 52. Still saying she should be executed. |
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Shoot her twice in the back of the head and make her corpse into cat food. She's proven herself to be an irredeemable danger to society by gleefully torturing a helpless animal, and leaving her alive ensures that she'll eventually kill a human being. Probably a little kid or an old person, since they're physically weaker.
(Myself, I'm in favor of killing her just for the kitten's sake, but some people won't be concerned unless humans are at risk.)
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I don't need humans at risk. I hope she meets a slow, painful, torturous fate pretty soon.
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As for cat food, I wouldn't feed her putrid crap to my own cats...
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But it's not up to me, and that's the way it should be. Decisions like that should not be made in the heat of emotion, or by people who have strong personal biases (mine is favoring cats over humans).
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| 54. let's see--georgie bush used to abuse animals, and look what happened to him. |
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Thu Jul-16-09 03:47 PM
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| 55. lady of the beasts, lady bast, please notice this person, and deal with her accordingly. |
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Thu Jul-16-09 04:27 PM
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| 58. She's flat out crazy and needs serious long term help in an institutional |
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Thu Jul-16-09 04:45 PM
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| 61. A plague on both their houses. |
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Thu Jul-16-09 05:29 PM
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broke into someone's house and not only robbed it but caused their pet to die a slow painful death and thinks it's funny?
I hope she gets the asskicking she so richly deserves in jail. After reading that article I wanted to find her myself. I mean that.
I think this sorry piece of shit should find her own ass stuffed in an oven. And I don't think you would find many taxpayers willing to feed and house garbage like that either.
Fuck her. She disabled her myspace page all of a sudden, but if you search for her name on myspace, you get a link to send her a message next to her profile's listing. I'm sure it goes nowhere, but at least it gave me the satisfaction of going through the motions.
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Thu Jul-16-09 05:49 PM
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| 74. 17 and (according to the article) already on her 3rd violent felony. |
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Yup, she's a waste of breathable air.
I hope this conviction haunts her for the rest of her life. Every application for every job, every potential boyfriend with an ounce of morality, every potential apartment...
Fuck her. At least she can't have any pets for 3 years.
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Thu Jul-16-09 06:33 PM
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| 78. Sad case for all involved. This kid should have had intervention long ago. Probably too late now. |
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Edited on Thu Jul-16-09 06:34 PM by RBInMaine
So, jail it is. What she has been doing is sickening and requires punishment.
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Thu Jul-16-09 07:55 PM
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| 80. she deserves a hell of a lot more than one year for those crimes |
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why would the prosecution accept a plea deal that only puts her away for a year?
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Thu Jul-16-09 08:39 PM
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I have an idea, Ms. Cherry--why don't we throw you in a 400 degree oven and let you roast a while?
What? It's just a JOKE! Can't you take a JOKE?
You're human garbage.
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Thu Jul-16-09 09:16 PM
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Every time I see this thread or see a comment on Facebook about it I really, really want to beat the living crap out of that stupid bitch.
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Thu Jul-16-09 09:18 PM
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| 89. Total fucking sickness and idiocy. |
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Fri Jul-17-09 08:11 AM
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| 94. a year in jail for all that destruction... it's a good thing she wasn't smoking a joint |
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she could have been in real trouble. 
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Fri Jul-17-09 08:45 AM
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| 96. Believe I'll just set a Google news alert so I'm sure to know when and |
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where this person is released in a year.
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Fri Jul-17-09 11:57 AM
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I'll be quite curious about that as well.
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Fri Jul-17-09 12:00 PM
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| 101. Ms. Cherry will be a case study of a serial killer in 20 years |
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Fri Jul-17-09 12:37 PM
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| 103. Is she the daughter of the |
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kitten-killing psycho from FreeRepublic? Someone asked on that horrific thread if it is normal for teenage boys to kill helpless animals, as the Freeper killer of defenseless kittens claimed he had done. I don't think so, but those who do cannot claim to be normal. Many serial killers have been found to have done these kinds of things when they were children and teenagers.
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Fri Jul-17-09 01:08 PM
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| 105. This sort of thing makes me see the benefit of using google for checking the background of potential |
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Fri Jul-17-09 02:50 PM
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| 108. What a piece of shit she is.. |
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Fri Jul-17-09 03:08 PM
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| 110. This little piece of shit better watch herself. |
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I mean it's not every day you see someone literally begging to be removed from this mortal coil so fervently through their behavior.
I'd be heartbroken if someone did something rash.
Just HEARTBROKEN.
You'll be released one day you little piece of trash.
And when you are, may you never know one minute of peace, one minute of safety, one minute of not living in fear.
As far as what would happen if you wandered into my neighborhood, well, you can consider my area The Bermuda Triangle.
That's about all I will say about that.
Someone dispose of this garbage. PLEASE.
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Fri Jul-17-09 07:23 PM
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to describe the depth of my disgust for this "person"
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Fri Jul-17-09 08:21 PM
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| 115. My dad worked for a State prison system (psychologist), one of the inmates |
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he studied was in for doing to her own infant what Cherry did to the kitten. It's not too broad a leap, folks; sociopaths start small and work their way up to larger and larger prey. As long as they perceive it as weaker than themselves, they'll try to do harm. Animal cruelty crimes MUST be taken extremely seriously, because the sick mindset is the same in either case.
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Sat Jul-18-09 04:56 PM
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| 123. She sounds as double dipped stupid as |
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those racist bigots who don't see the racism in their racist jokes.
They all have the same problem, too..they feel unworthy so they have to puff themselves up by hurting others.
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Sun Jul-19-09 09:32 PM
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| 126. "agreed not to keep a pet for the next three years" |
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seriously - they are going to let her adopt pets in the future??!!
Oh, and then there is this: "She was busted last year for using a BB gun to dog-nap a teacup Yorkie with her boyfriend. She was also arrested for robbing a man of his iPod at gunpoint."
she seems to have the potential to do real harm to a human in the future as well. Scary girl.
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