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BlueJessamine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 07:45 AM
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CIA Supervisor Claimed He Used Fire Ants On Detainee
Source: Huffington Post

A recently released legal memo describing interrogation techniques showed that Bush Administration lawyers had approved the use of "insects" in interrogations. "You would like to place Zubaydeh in a cramped confinement box with an insect," Jay Bybee, then a Justice Department lawyer and now a federal judge, wrote in 2002. He opined that as long as the bug wasn't actually harmful, it would not violate the law to use one to scare a terrorist detainee.

That was the first mention of insects to become public. But the memo's release may make it worth looking back to a brouhaha that occurred in secret at the agency in 2005. A CIA supervisor involved in the "enhanced interrogation" program bragged to other CIA employees about using fire ants while during questioning of a top terror suspect, according to several sources formerly with the Agency. The official claimed to other Agency employees, the sources say, to have put the stinging ants on a detainee's head to help break him.

The CIA insists, however, that no matter what the man said, it never took place. In fact, even though the Bush administration lawyers condoned the use of non-harmful insects, as the memo revealed, the technique wasn't employed, the agency says. "The CIA did not use insects as part of its terrorist interrogation program," said CIA Spokesman Paul Gimigliano. "That didn't happen, period."

The CIA supervisor who purportedly bragged of using insects was, and still is, a high-level official, working at the Senior Executive Service level. Because he is still in the CIA covert side, his name cannot be published. But he was in the field and helped oversee, according to sources, the way "enhanced" interrogation techniques were used.


Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/aram-roston/cia-supervisor-claimed-he_b_231303.html
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 07:57 AM
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1. K&R
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 08:07 AM
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2.  "That didn't happen, period." ....
riiiiiiiight.

K&R




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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 08:11 AM
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3. Maybe we should inject some fire ants up this supervisor's rear end, see how he likes it.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 09:03 AM
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4. Well if the Bush administration and the CIA says it didn't happen.
I'd bet my first born it did.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 09:08 AM
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5. "The dedicated men and women of the CIA"
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 09:23 AM
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6. Thank goodness the CIA has built up so much emotional capital with me right now.
Edited on Thu Jul-16-09 09:24 AM by Robb
Otherwise I might not be inclined to believe Spokesman Gimigliano when he says this didn't happen. :eyes:

Edited to add: Jesus Fucking Christ.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 09:26 AM
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7. 'never' - wink... nod
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 09:49 AM
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8. Why is Bybee STILL on the bench?
Edited on Thu Jul-16-09 09:49 AM by Joe Bacon
WHY hasn't this asshole been impeached?
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:06 AM
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9. I would like to suspend Habeas Corpus for every Bush administration member.
Put them all on trial, and prove their innocence. I know this is wrong. It goes against everything in the Constitution. But what we are doing (or rather not doing, it seems) is outrageous. I really can't pay much attention to the news, or the issues we are facing today, as this entire Middle East episode has me captivated. I cannot leave the Bush administration until justice is done.

I will always remember the moment Bush was sworn in. My father said, "Here come the wars".

Don't tell me Bush is innocent. I don't think anyone in his circle is innocent.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:09 AM
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10. So little boys that tear the wings off butterflies, have a future?
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:22 AM
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11. That was done to 10-yr old KSH's son, to get him to tell them where his dady was.
What a country - putting fireants on children to get them to give up the parents. Why I bet the Gestapo would've loved that... then again we ARE the 4rth Reich!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:28 AM
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12. Link? NT
NT
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 10:34 AM
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13. Nice.
Nothing was beneath the bush administration.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 11:01 AM
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14. In the meantime, the Taliban is using real fire on our captured soldier.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 11:20 AM
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16. That's what you expect from religiously fanatical terrorists.
NOT FROM THE FUCKING US GOVERNMENT.
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whopis01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:17 PM
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19. Um... what was the difference back in 2002? n/t
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:40 PM
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23. Huh?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 11:19 AM
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15. K&R
This sounds like a rumor and may or may not be true, but we should watch this story.
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 11:47 AM
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17. We need some new criminal laws regulating the CIA. Maybe some new lawmakers too?
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 08:16 AM
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24. Maybe, but the old laws specifically prohibit torture...
...and make it a crime.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:11 PM
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18. Prosecute and jail the torturers, Holder.
It's the only way this country can begin to get back a little bit of its soul.
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road2000 Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:21 PM
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20. This is the stuff of nightmares.
Thank God we live in a country more evolved than some of those barbarians. Oh, wait.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:23 PM
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21. Well that's okay. Looking forward, yah know.
Edited on Thu Jul-16-09 12:26 PM by Deep13
:grr:

So, we should believe the agency, right? They've never lied before!
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:23 PM
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22. of course it didn't happen.
nothing bad happened.

nothing bad ever happens.

let's dance through the land of lollipops and rainbows again. la tee da tee dee tee doe

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