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wantoutnow Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:33 PM
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Upcoming Military Robot Could Feed on Dead Bodies
Source: foxnews

It could be a combination of 19th-century mechanics, 21st-century technology — and a 20th-century horror movie.

A Maryland company under contract to the Pentagon is working on a steam-powered robot that would fuel itself by gobbling up whatever organic material it can find — grass, wood, old furniture, even dead bodies.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,532492,00.html?test=latestnews



I thought this was from the onion. Isnt the military industrial complex great?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:36 PM
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1. scoff - that technology is over 100 years old
Edited on Tue Jul-14-09 06:36 PM by maxsolomon
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:37 PM
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4. "Loveless Industries -- your tax dollars hard at work!"
n/t
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:36 PM
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2. What could possibly go wrong?
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:09 PM
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18. I don't even want to think about the new monster weapon they
are sinking our tax dollars into, but you know their will be kinks to work out and a few generations with the weapon before it is perfected.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:37 PM
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3. I take it the robot uses a Stirling Engine? n/t
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hay rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:19 PM
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22. If I'm a robot, I definitely want one of these:
Edited on Tue Jul-14-09 07:21 PM by hay rick
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:39 PM
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5. Flesh eating robots is one of the better ideas I have heard in a while.
I want one as a pet.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:42 PM
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6. Somebody please tell me that this is a hoax.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:43 PM
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7. Who knew robots ate?
:crazy:
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:29 AM
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60. Everything "eats" something
The computer that you're using right now "eats" electricity it draws either from your laptop's batteries or an electrical outlet. Your vehicle "eats" gasoline for energy.

Now we're just gonna teach some extremely intelligent machines, able to make decisions (and kill) on their own, that it's okay for them to "eat" humans in order to draw energy from.

Donchya just love progress?
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:46 PM
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8. Next the pentagon will be trying to find a cure for
robot obesity :rofl:
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wantoutnow Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:52 PM
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9. Im sure
it will just come in like a vacuuum cleaner after we carpet bomb a few thousand civilians and " clean up" the evidence. I get sick thinking about the hideous people we have had in our government for a long time. Pure evil. Yet the right wing wants to cut medicaid and education and unemployment. Spare no expense though, for human eating robots for our military adventures.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:09 PM
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17. Where the hell do ya think Soylent Green comes from?
The sea? :shrug:
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wantoutnow Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:13 PM
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19. soylent green is people
Its people!
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:56 PM
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29. It's "Chinese" food
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:56 PM
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10. This sounds like a diabolical Roomba.
I hope this is a hoax--since it's on the FOX "News" site, it very well could be. If not: :scared:
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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:57 PM
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12. "Doomba"
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:01 PM
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14. The Doomba. LOL
:hi:
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 03:53 PM
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51. Attack & Snack
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 08:31 AM
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40. If it's as ineffective as Roomba is reported to be, I feel much better.
Edited on Wed Jul-15-09 08:32 AM by No Elephants
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:57 PM
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11. Dick Cheney is now inventing stuff?
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 06:57 PM
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13. Pentagon contracts are not usually so overt.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 03:12 PM
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48. Eh, open air activity is the new concealment. Heck, why should they bother hiding intentions.
War machines that run on corpses instead of oil. They're just cutting out the middle man.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:31 AM
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61. Besides, who's going to stop them?
Do you want to be the one to try and unplug EATR?
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 06:34 AM
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63. Sad but true ...
> War machines that run on corpses instead of oil.
> They're just cutting out the middle man.

:-(
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:02 PM
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15. is this a DARPA project? I wouldn't be surprised.
DARPA, the warrior bureaucrats who brought us the "gay bomb".
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 09:11 AM
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69. They also brought you the Internet, but don't let that stop a good rant ;-) (NT)
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Goldom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:03 PM
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16. There are certain headlines, that, when popping up on your RSS feed...
uh... nt.
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elvisbear Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:13 PM
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20. How about if they just feed on the bodies of corporate CEO's? n/t
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:18 PM
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21. well, that's one way to disguise the fatalities of war....
Good think this wasn't available to Georgie W* and his evil sidekick, the Dick.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:22 PM
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23. Energetically Autonomous Tactical Robot — that's right, "EATR"?
It's a military robot. What makes anyone think it will stop at 'dead' bodies? It will certainly be responsible for 'preparing' dinner. Talk about shock and awe.

And how tidy! No more mass graves! Why, it's win/win!

:sarcasm:

Only a psychopath could come up with shit like this. Seriously.
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wantoutnow Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:30 PM
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24. It makes me sad
and angry, and hopeless. The evil people are so entrenched all you can do is laugh. Or cry.
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 09:50 PM
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36. +1
Let's hope the glare of public opinion will put this monstrosity where it belongs, on the scrap pile of history.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 04:57 PM
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56. Yep. Now they can "eat" the evidence
"Village? What village? We never saw an inhabited village here"!
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wantoutnow Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:32 PM
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25. I just found this on the onion.
I almost cant believe it. Which site is supposed to be satire?

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_axes_pentagon_plan_to_build?utm_source=a-section
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:33 PM
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26. Did a very disturbed 9 year old boy come up with this?
Edited on Tue Jul-14-09 07:34 PM by mitchum
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:49 PM
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27. Oh hell no.
And we'll be surprised when these things become sentient and start using us for fuel.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 08:39 AM
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44. They don't need to be sentient to use us for fuel.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 09:53 AM
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45. Indeed but what I worry about is the day they decide we taste good.
Then all bets are off. See any zombie movie and replace the zombies with killer robots.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 07:54 PM
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28. it feeds on "pork"
"steam powered"

LOL
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skoalyman Donating Member (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:01 PM
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30. I won't be behind it, when the thing takes a poop,
:puke:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 08:32 AM
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41. Then it's no good. We can't sell it to Israel.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 08:35 AM
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42. Does the Bible say robots can't eat pork?
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:06 PM
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31. Rise of the machines indeed...nt
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:21 PM
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32. ROTFLOL
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:21 PM
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33. Steam powered. Don't tell these guys about "electricity".
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twitomy Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:47 PM
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34. Reduce, Reuse, Recycle...
Killings gone "Green"!
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 08:58 PM
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35. hey, at least it cleans up after itself. nt
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 08:08 AM
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37. Why only dead bodies? Live humans are "organic material," too. "The
Edited on Wed Jul-15-09 08:27 AM by No Elephants
advantages to the military are that the robot would be extremely flexible in fuel sources and could roam on its own for months, even years, without having to be refueled or serviced."


What could possibly go wrong?
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 03:13 PM
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49. That's my question. Is it so picky that it only eats dead organic material?
I doubt it.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:25 AM
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59. Add to that the ability to replicate themselves, and self-preservation
We'll soon reach a point where you can't simply pull a plug, turn it off, or deprogram these machines. And I'm sure that these machines may start off as "friendly" servants, fully under our control. But what happens when a machine decides that we are expendable, or that we are an inconvenience or a threat to its existence?
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 08:25 AM
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38. This is the dumbest weapon idea I've ever heard of!
They need to FIRE half of the research department and have a general with a Buddy Rich type of anger problem be the head of it.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 08:28 AM
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39. SOYLENT GREEN IS ROBOT POOP!!!
meh, does that really surprise us?
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 08:36 AM
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43. so our future WILL be like the one in "The Matrix"
Edited on Wed Jul-15-09 08:36 AM by Blue_Tires
:yoiks:
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 09:55 AM
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46. See,this is why we can't have nice things.
:shrug:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 04:59 PM
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57. We can make human eating robots, but developing clean renewable energy
for the masses, now, that's crazy talk!
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:34 AM
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62. I'm sorry, Mom.
I didn't mean it. It was an accident. (You were channeling my Mom, weren't you? I could actually hear her voice.) ;)
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 10:30 AM
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47. Why do we need this?!? We should be working on peace not war.
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TCJ70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 03:44 PM
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50. I think it was during WWI that they would sometimes run things...
...on energy from dead bodies.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 03:55 PM
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52. Pork projects like this and yet we cannot afford single payer. nt
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 04:54 PM
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55. Spending money on killing can NEVER be questioned
but saving lives? What are you, some kind of bleeding heart socialist commie? :sarcasm: (as if it were needed)
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 04:37 PM
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53. This is just bizarre
What a weird invention
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-15-09 04:52 PM
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54. War of the worlds
that awful Tom Cruise version had giant robot vehicles that gathered up and "ate" human beings. Obviously it gave someone an idea. :puke:
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:21 AM
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58. Actually it does make sense - and it's scary as hell.
From a purely objective standpoint, it makes sense that you would want a robot that could sustain its energy through a variety of means, including foraging for biomass material. And yes, technically that could include dead animals or humans, which there could be in abundance during a war.

The problem is that at some point, it's possible that these machines could learn to equate humans with an easy energy source, and that by killing humans, they could supply themselves with fuel.

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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 11:03 AM
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64. HuffPo has something on this too:
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 11:42 AM
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65. Military Industrial Complex and the Prison Industrial Complex two of our great Evils.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 12:30 PM
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66. Hint: Don't stand still for more than a second or two.
And practice sleeping with one eye open.

"pEATR, have you seen my dog?"

"No." *burp*
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 09:14 PM
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67. This is a hoax, people. Check this out:
I don't come here much these days, but I thought I'd clear up this bit of silliness before it got out of hand.

Here's a URL for the site: http://www.robotictechnologyinc.com/

Note the names: Finkelstein, Dr. Bilal Ayyub etc. Read the copy they use. This is a joke. Our standards for journalism have fallen so low that even base humor passes for fact without the most simple screening. I debunked this in less than two minutes.

No wonder I left the media business.

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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 09:45 AM
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72. Sorry, you didn't debunk jack shit.
Edited on Fri Jul-17-09 09:46 AM by Hugabear
One of your primary reasons is that they have funny sounding names?

You know, if you did just a wee bit of rudimentary internet searching, you'd see that this is for real. Sure, FAUX News may have sensationalized it, but that doesn't change anything.

And why is it so hard to grasp that the military would want fully autonomous machines that can use biomass for energy?

Oh, and this is not a new story. Here's a press release about RTI purchasing a biomass engine system:
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Cyclone-Power-Technologies-Inc-942542.html

And here's another one from Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS141421+28-Jan-2009+MW20090128

Both of these are from JANUARY.
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Boddingham Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-16-09 11:07 PM
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68. Lots of things can feed on dead bodies.
You, me, bugs, microbes, varmits, scavengers . . . .

What's the big fucking deal?
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 09:48 AM
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73. How about the fact that these are independent thinking machines programmed to KILL?
Even Stephen Hawking has said that fully autonomous machines could someday pose a serious threat to human existence.

I tend to think that he just might know a little more than you.
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Boddingham Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-19-09 12:04 AM
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75. Did I say something that contradicts Stephen Hawking?
Humans, bugs, microbes, varmints, and scavengers are or can be programmed to kill.

We've got lots of machines that kill people. Mostly innocent brown people, but the American people apparently don't give a shit.

I repeat, what's the big fucking deal?
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 09:25 AM
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70. Fox News Eats Words On EATR Robot
A few days ago, we brought you news of a robot that would forage its own food--which Fox News was happy to speculate might include "dead bodies." As we noted, that seemed pretty improbable, and a blatant bit of sensationalism on the part of Fox News--after all, desecrating the dead is a war crime, and the robot's manufacturer actually made no mention of the robots eating flesh.

The Web site has now eaten its words and offered a correction for its previous story:

But, contrary to reports, including one that appeared on FOXNews.com, the EATR will not eat animal or human remains.

Which makes Fox News seem like a passive victim of commonly circulated facts--all those "reports," you know. But Fox News actually originated the meme by surmising that dead bodies would be a logical source of food, since they'd be numerous on the battlefield. Sadly, they've completely taken down the offending story rather than correcting it at the bottom (as less fair, less balanced news sources do).

...


http://www.fastcompany.com/blog/cliff-kuang/design-innovation/fox-news-eats-words-eatr-robot
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-17-09 09:26 AM
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71. Flesh-eating War-bots? Company Says no
The Pentagon has shown it has a great appetite for drones and robots -- everything from missile-firing UAVs to prototype patrol-bots guarding air base perimeters.

But a Maryland company working on a program for the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, DARPA, has the idea of giving the robots their own appetites, letting them feed on biomass as a means of fueling themselves.

But as the image of flesh-eating drones refueling off the battlefield dead has spread in recent days, Cyclone Power Technologies of Florida, the company developing the robot's engine, has issued a statement about the Energetically Autonomous Tactical Robot's -- aka EATR -- diet.

It is vegetarian, the company said in a press statement released Thursday, in response to stories with headlines such as "Dawn of the corpse-eating robots?" and "Pentagon contracts company for flesh-eating robots."

"We completely understand the public's concern about futuristic robots feeding on the human population, but that is not our mission," Harry Schoell, chief executive officer of Cyclone, said in the statement. "We are focused on demonstrating that our engines can create usable, green power from plentiful, renewable plant matter. The commercial applications alone for this earth-friendly energy solution are enormous."

...


http://www.military.com/news/article/flesheating-war-bots-company-says-no.html?col=1186032310810
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-18-09 11:51 PM
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74. lol
Fox "news" is teh stupid. :rofl:
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