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Zelaya Plotting Return, Seeks ‘Strong’ U.S. Actions (Update1)
Source: Bloomberg

Zelaya Plotting Return, Seeks ‘Strong’ U.S. Actions (Update1)
By Andres R. Martinez and Matthew Walter

July 2 (Bloomberg) -- Deposed Honduran President Manuel Zelaya said he’s plotting his return to the Central American nation and called for “strong” action from the U.S. to help restore him to power.

~snip~
“We’ve taken some actions to hit the pause button on assistance programs which we would be legally required to terminate” if it is found to have been a military coup, State Department spokesman Ian Kelly told reporters today in Washington.

“We would discourage any actions that would prove to be an obstacle to this process reaching its desired outcome, which of course is the restoration of Manuel Zelaya in power,” Kelly said.

~snip~
Zelaya is “not afraid” of standing trial, the Honduran Ambassador to Panama, Juan Alfaro Posadas, said last night. The deposed president is willing to negotiate with anyone who wants to cooperate, Posadas told reporters in Panama City.



Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=aj5...
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   um, what sort of strong action does he seek?  cali   Jul-02-09 06:29 PM   #1 
   I thought you felt extremely hostile to all pirates, and were jubilant at that  Joe Chi Minh   Jul-02-09 07:12 PM   #2 
   Are you fucking kidding? I wrote post after post and several threads  cali   Jul-02-09 07:28 PM   #3 
   I'll be kind and put it down to memory impairment. But the ranting language of  Joe Chi Minh   Jul-03-09 05:53 PM   #12 
      I tried to follow the imagery those words summoned and it simply exploded!  Judi Lynn   Jul-03-09 08:57 PM   #13 
         "I tried to follow the imagery those words summoned and it simply exploded!"  Joe Chi Minh   Jul-04-09 05:47 PM   #25 
            They'd be wrong. We are given to believe this site was created for "progressives,"  Judi Lynn   Jul-04-09 06:23 PM   #26 
               Thank you, Judy. That means a lot to me.  Joe Chi Minh   Jul-06-09 06:27 AM   #32 
   oh, so you support the U.S. sending troops to Honduras to  cali   Jul-02-09 07:31 PM   #4 
      Well, well. It doesn't take a lot to interest you, does it? But try to be  Joe Chi Minh   Jul-03-09 05:50 PM   #11 
   I doubt he's calling for US military intervention.  David__77   Jul-02-09 07:40 PM   #5 
   Nothing happens in Honduras w/o military support. Hello.  EFerrari   Jul-02-09 07:51 PM   #7 
   We should also recall the ambassador, as have other countries. n/t  Judi Lynn   Jul-02-09 07:51 PM   #6 
   The right wing spin is all over our media.  EFerrari   Jul-02-09 07:52 PM   #8 
   his term would end, in January .. time to concede .n/t  excess_3   Jul-02-09 11:03 PM   #9 
   Why?  AlphaCentauri   Jul-02-09 11:42 PM   #10 
   Sure, because conceding to fascist thugs is such a great idea.  EFerrari   Jul-03-09 09:51 PM   #15 
   I'll bet you were among those that wanted Gore to concede to Bush  IndianaGreen   Jul-03-09 09:55 PM   #16 
   a... fascist supporter of the right wing  fascisthunter   Jul-04-09 07:53 PM   #28 
   Several Media Outlets Remain Closed in Honduras Despite International Pressure  Judi Lynn   Jul-03-09 09:05 PM   #14 
   'splain JudiLynn: Since Hillary-OBAMA are backing the overtunr-Constitution, WHY ARE YOU A democracy  UTUSN   Jul-03-09 10:01 PM   #17 
   The referendum was non-binding  IndianaGreen   Jul-03-09 10:19 PM   #18 
   And Illegal per the Honduran SC and Congress  Mudoria   Jul-04-09 02:03 AM   #19 
      All of Latin America and all the world bodies are behind Zelaya.  EFerrari   Jul-04-09 02:08 AM   #20 
      Do you want US troops to fight to keep the Pinochetti Junta in power?  IndianaGreen   Jul-04-09 04:04 AM   #22 
   There's no way Zelaya could have stayed in office  EFerrari   Jul-04-09 02:34 AM   #21 
      C'mon, the next step was Mr. Z's private constitutional convention,  excess_3   Jul-04-09 04:32 AM   #23 
         His term would end before the process was completed. And so,  EFerrari   Jul-04-09 04:36 AM   #24 
   If Zelaya is such a democracy addict  Zorro   Jul-04-09 06:35 PM   #27 
   You like the right wing in South America, don't you?  fascisthunter   Jul-04-09 07:59 PM   #30 
      Care to answer the question, lil' FH?  Zorro   Jul-04-09 08:01 PM   #31 
   too bad for the righties here  fascisthunter   Jul-04-09 07:55 PM   #29 
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-02-09 06:29 PM
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1. um, what sort of strong action does he seek?
The Pentagon has suspended military cooperation with the faux gov't of Honduras, and I support cutting any military aid, but if he's looking for military assistance to help him regain the presidency, nope, don't support that. At all.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-02-09 07:12 PM
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2. I thought you felt extremely hostile to all pirates, and were jubilant at that
Edited on Thu Jul-02-09 07:12 PM by Joe Chi Minh
wee Battle of the Midway, in which two of them were shot by American snipers. What's so different? This not just booty. It's a whole country.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-02-09 07:28 PM
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3. Are you fucking kidding? I wrote post after post and several threads
expressing sympathy toward the Somali pirates who captured the American captain.

Really, you are a confused little critter pulling reeking shit, from a certain little orifice, honey.

Try again, genius. I'm awaiting your admission that you were fucking flat wrong. Not that I'm holding my breath, but as I'm posting a link from that time, everyone will be able to see just how full of it you are, little ho hum.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-03-09 05:53 PM
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12. I'll be kind and put it down to memory impairment. But the ranting language of
Edited on Fri Jul-03-09 05:54 PM by Joe Chi Minh
the gutter is a giveaway.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-03-09 08:57 PM
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13. I tried to follow the imagery those words summoned and it simply exploded!
I don't know if putting a comma or a hyphen in there anywhere would help at all. How confusing! So much rage it got the best of the poster.

Never saw anything like that before. You must bring out the best in some people! Ho ho ho.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-04-09 05:47 PM
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25. "I tried to follow the imagery those words summoned and it simply exploded!"
Edited on Sat Jul-04-09 05:50 PM by Joe Chi Minh
Same here. As you say, I seem to "wind her up" like nobody's business. I sometimes wonder if she missed her vocation - as a proctologist. Well, I shouldn't be pleased about it, but she seems so right wing, it riles me to bits she even posts here. Though she and her kindred spirits no doubt think "limeys" should keep out.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-04-09 06:23 PM
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26. They'd be wrong. We are given to believe this site was created for "progressives,"
Edited on Sat Jul-04-09 06:24 PM by Judi Lynn
which would mean people like YOU!
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Jul-06-09 06:27 AM
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32. Thank you, Judy. That means a lot to me.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jul-02-09 07:31 PM
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4. oh, so you support the U.S. sending troops to Honduras to
restore Zelaya to the presidency? How interesting.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-03-09 05:50 PM
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11. Well, well. It doesn't take a lot to interest you, does it? But try to be
Edited on Fri Jul-03-09 05:51 PM by Joe Chi Minh
consistent in your hostility to pirates, will you? The bigger they are, the more reprehensible. Not the other way round.
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-02-09 07:40 PM
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5. I doubt he's calling for US military intervention.
He's likely calling for sanctions and suspension of diplomatic relations.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-02-09 07:51 PM
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7. Nothing happens in Honduras w/o military support. Hello.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-02-09 07:51 PM
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6. We should also recall the ambassador, as have other countries. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-02-09 07:52 PM
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8. The right wing spin is all over our media.
I'm pretty sure Zelaya didn't say he was "plotting" to return.

Geeze.
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excess_3 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-02-09 11:03 PM
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9. his term would end, in January .. time to concede .n/t
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jul-02-09 11:42 PM
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10. Why?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-03-09 09:51 PM
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15. Sure, because conceding to fascist thugs is such a great idea.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-03-09 09:55 PM
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16. I'll bet you were among those that wanted Gore to concede to Bush
or perhaps those that demonstrated outside Naval Observatory yelling "Get out of Cheney's house!"
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28. a... fascist supporter of the right wing
how lovely
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-03-09 09:05 PM
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14. Several Media Outlets Remain Closed in Honduras Despite International Pressure
Several Media Outlets Remain Closed in Honduras Despite International Pressure


The provisional government has continued to keep off the air several radio and TV stations that it considers loyal to President Manuel Zelaya, Italy’s ANSA news agency reports from Tegucigalpa. Among those stations is Channel 36, whose director and owner reports that it has been off the air for more than 100 hours, its facilities occupied by armed soliders.

Radio Globo, which had strongly criticized the interim president, Roberto Micheletti, before he took power, remained under military guard, The Wall Street Journal reports. When Globo broadcast the first Honduran interview with exiled leader Manuel Zelaya, addressing him as “Mr. President,” soldiers turned off the station’s transmitter, the WSJ adds, citing its owner.

However, the interim president, Roberto Micheletti, says “no channel is taken over,” and that if Channel 36 remains off the air it is because “maybe they have had their problems,” EFE reports. Micheletti said late Thursday he had “not the slightest idea” why soldiers interrupted Zelaya’s speech. “But he said certain measures were necessary to prevent Hondurans from being incited to violence,” the WSJ’s Nicholas Casey says

Parliament approved Micheletti’s decree that suspends some constitutional rights such as freedom of association and movement at night, but the decree doesn’t officially restrict freedom of the press or ofexpression. However, the Inter American Press Association (IAPA) said Thursday it had received complaints from media and journalists “that they are still restricted, intimidated and attacked while they attempt to report.”

“The government should not only cease any limitations on the work of the press but also protect and ensure that all media, no matter what their editorial policies, can work freely and in safety,” IAPA’s president said in a statement.

http://knightcenter.utexas.edu/blog/?q=en/node/4520
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-03-09 10:01 PM
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17. 'splain JudiLynn: Since Hillary-OBAMA are backing the overtunr-Constitution, WHY ARE YOU A democracy
backer. You're a LIAR. So is Mayor BLOOMBERG, and ALL who "amend" constitutions/charters to KEEP OFFICE beyond the PAPER.


I'm NOT surprised at you Judi Lynn.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jul-03-09 10:19 PM
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18. The referendum was non-binding
Having a fired general that graduated from the assassins school at Fort Benning, previously known as School of Americas, take over and put his puppet as President is far, far worse than what anything you have to say.
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19. And Illegal per the Honduran SC and Congress
Zelaya is out and he isn't going to be resuming his office.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-04-09 02:08 AM
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20. All of Latin America and all the world bodies are behind Zelaya.
If he doesn't go back, it's only because the United States doesn't think that democracy in Honduras is worth the hassle.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-04-09 04:04 AM
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22. Do you want US troops to fight to keep the Pinochetti Junta in power?
Do you want a return to Honduras bloody past of military dictatorships and American-trained death squads? Are you prepared to fight for the Honduran elites?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-04-09 02:34 AM
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21. There's no way Zelaya could have stayed in office
even if the survey had gone forward. The process takes longer than he has. So, there was no overturning of anything. That was a right wing talking point to justify ousting Zelaya.

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23. C'mon, the next step was Mr. Z's private constitutional convention,
followed by Mr. Z's private presidential election
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jul-04-09 04:36 AM
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24. His term would end before the process was completed. And so,
too late for him to run again regardless.
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27. If Zelaya is such a democracy addict
Why did he not seek to get the Honduran congress to approve legislation to conduct the referendum?
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30. You like the right wing in South America, don't you?
democratic underground

We are not fascist underground.
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31. Care to answer the question, lil' FH?
Or are you just looking for another educational lesson?
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29. too bad for the righties here
makes me so happy to see them all so angry.... illegal my ass. Stop fronting...
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