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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 12:39 AM
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In Poll, Obama Is Seen as Ineffective on the Economy
Source: NY Times

A substantial majority of Americans say President Obama has not developed a strategy to deal with the budget deficit, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll, which also found that support for his plans to overhaul health care, rescue the auto industry and close the prison at Guantnamo Bay, Cuba, falls well below his job approval ratings.

A distinct gulf exists between Mr. Obamas overall standing and how some of his key initiatives are viewed, with fewer than half of Americans saying they approve of how he has handled health care and the effort to save General Motors and Chrysler. A majority of people said his policies have had either no effect yet on improving the economy or had made it worse, underscoring how his political strength still rests on faith in his leadership rather than concrete results.

As Mr. Obama finishes his fifth month in office and assumes greater ownership of the problems he inherited, Americans are alarmed by the hundreds of billions of dollars that have been doled out to boost the economy. A majority said the government should instead focus on reducing the federal deficit.

But with a job approval rating of 63 percent, Mr. Obama has the backing of Democrats and independents alike, a standing that many presidents would envy and try to use to build support for their policies. His rating has fallen to 23 percent among Republicans, from 44 percent in February, a sign that bridging the partisan divide may remain an unaccomplished goal.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/18/us/politics/18poll.ht...



The headline and lede are more than a bit misleading. 57 to 35 approve of the job he's doing with the economy. The only real negative in the poll is 60 to 30 disapproval on dealing with the deficit.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 12:44 AM
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1. The title is awesome. Who wrote it? Frankly, who cares?
Another incident from the NYT where what they say goes against the prevailing wisdom. Shocked!
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 12:47 AM
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2. All the GOP, media talk about is deficit, bailouts, without relative blame to Bush and before.
Much of it now to scuttle health care spending. What we can we do? Who can we pester?

We still need to spend to stimulate.

Notice media no longer really carries his speeches. They say over-exposed, but not the critical stuff. We just get written permission for a kid from a town hall, fly-swatting and pictures of greasy take out burgers.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 09:02 AM
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15. Just the standard operating procedure for the Corporate Toady M$M.
Gotta keep catapulting the Bushiganda, and thus, they are not permitted to mention how we got here.

NOT...PERMITTED.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:54 AM
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19. You forgot the mustard. That was a big issue. His asking for poupon or any spicy mustard. Just
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 12:00 PM by No Elephants
like the Great Arugula Tempest in a Teapot of 2008.

Gawd, I'm sick of the MSM. They have betrayed the role the Constitution envisioned for them.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 12:50 AM
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3. Once again, the SCREW YORK TIMES puts out GOP talking points!
Except for Krugman, the Screw York Times is a waste of newsprint!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 01:15 AM
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4. Perhaps they'd change their tune if- as happened after the Savings & Loan crisis. criminals were
actually prosecuted.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 01:27 AM
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5. After their lie of WMDs in Iraq,
Edited on Thu Jun-18-09 01:38 AM by FrenchieCat
It easy to see how 57% = ineffective if it is printed in the New York Times.

I will simply say that the media has put enough RNC mouthpiece on television
to sway 35% of the population. Considering the nightmare that the economy was,
to believe that this President is "ineffective" on dealing with the economy
is Right Wing Talking Points, which obviously, The NYT is happy to repeat loudly
as a headline! (what would we think without them?)

Wish we'd seen the same number of Democrats handed a microphone 5 months into Bush's term,
but I didn't see them or hear them, and I was looking for them.

Sucks to be a Democrat sometimes....due to the unequal treatment one gets from
the fucked up media.

I wrote to the author, basically saying what I've said here.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 01:45 AM
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6. This coming from the rag NYT
The same NYT that witheld spying on Americans till the 04 election was over. I'm surprised they're still around.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 01:50 AM
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7. Yep.....same one who have a habit of employing NeoCons to write Opinion pieces......
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 01:51 AM
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8. It's the Disney mentality. Poor, stupid MoFos.
My heart bleeds for those who had no chance of an education, but the excuses of those who did leave me cold and empty.

Are we to believe the ONLY thing that's being taught in the private schools and universities is GREED?
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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 07:11 AM
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9. 63% approval is the big number, cuz
if he can stay in the 60%'s til 2012:

He. would. cruise. to. relection.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 07:19 AM
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10. 1. The deficit is Bush's fault. 2. Obama is doing nothing to fix it.
Yes, Bush is far more culpable;however,Obam has done very little other than help the banks--which are as guilty as Bush of causing the crisis.
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:23 AM
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11. I wonder what his approval rating would be if he'd taken Krugman's, et al advice?
Dumped Geithner, nationalized the banks, told all the Credit Default Swap gamblers, "thanks for playing, too bad about all that money you lost"...Wall St. would have convulsed with revenge, the stock market would taken an even bigger dump, and, at least in the short term, things would be a lot worse. Although I believe that's what he should have done, I'm sure his approval ratings would be in the toilet.
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:33 AM
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12. A lot of the stimulus money will not be for job creations
or building anything & Obama has not held the FED accountable for recklessly low interets rates.



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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:39 AM
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13. So far the only ones to benefit from all WH actions are the rich banksters

and WH mandated job losses for the rank and file.


I guess we now are supposed to wait until the rich banksters trickle down their ill gotten gains they received from the taxpayer coffers. Green shoots for the banksters and trickle downs for the rest of us.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 08:59 AM
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14. Bidness as usual.
:shrug: Nothing changes.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:49 AM
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16. There is no good strategy for cleaning up what 8 years of the idiot did to us
He isn't doing a good job with the deficit because no one can. He hasn't learned how to part the red sea, turn water into wine or walk on water yet either. :P


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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 10:51 AM
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17. A "no shit" headline....at least from my neck of the woods. n/t
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 11:40 AM
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18. I don't like the fact
that Obama is giving so much power to the Federal Reserve which is not 'federal' at all. This, to me, is just giving TPTB exactly what they want. The Fed will continue to rob the people.

All of these 'too big too fail banks' need to broken up just like they broke up AT&T back in the '80's.

These banks are cartels. Why isn't anyone suggesting to bring back 'Glass Stegall?'

We're fucked beyond all comprehension. Wait till the next shoe drops....commercial real estate and the derivatives. The dollar will be devalued. Again, WASF and most Americans don't have a clue as to why.

You ain't seen nothing yet. Get prepared.
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