Wright: Jews blocking him from W.H.

Source: Politico

President Obama's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, believes Jews are preventing him from getting in touch ...

... with the president of the United States, reports the Hampton Roads Daily Press.

The Daily Press: "Wright says he does not feel any regrets over his severed relationship with President Barack Obama, a former member of the Chicago church in which Wright was the longtime pastor.

"Wright also said that he had not spoken to his former church member since Obama became president, implying that the White House won't allow Obama to talk to him. He did not indicate whether he had tried to reach Obama…

"Asked if he had spoken to the President, Wright said: 'Them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me. I told my baby daughter, that he'll talk to me in five years when he's a lame duck, or in eight years when he's out of office…They will not let him to talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is. ... I said from the beginning: He's a politician; I'm a pastor. He's got to do what politicians do.'".....



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I'm getting really tired of this anti-semite crap.

Hell, Mr. DLC wouldn't let ANY progressive talk to Obama if he could help it--not even a progressive Jew. Bad choice of words on Rev. Wright's part, though.

How would Wright liked it had anyone referred to him as "that black," or worse?

If he was talking about just Rahm Emanuel, referring to "them Jews" is improper as it seems to indicate a plural.

Of course if he wasn't simply referring to Rahm Emanuel but rather his belief in some Jewish conspiracy, the word choice would make more sense.

i

overused and under undertstood.

That was a bigoted thing to say, plain and simple. No explanation or dislike of Rahm gets around that.

Nice mind-reader spin ya had goin' there though.

Fucking asshat.

Not that such language is necessarily anti-Semitic, but let's just say I apply strict scrutiny.

That difference speaks volumes about Wright, IMO...

Authoritarians often talk about "the Jew", "the gay" etc. as if each individual shared all attributes. It's the logical fallacy at the core of racism.

I think he's so angry at Obama that he's says shit he knows will be extensively covered from Hardball to Faux. Does he really think there's an army of Jews holding up the phone bank at the WH?

maybe not though........them Jews" killed Jeebus y'know.....yeesh

Shades of Hymietown.......

He is totally sincere.

You wrote:

"Does he really think there's an army of Jews holding up the phone bank at the WH?"

It seems if there really is a veritable 'shadow-corps' of power lobbyists and affiliates in government, calling the shots, especially regarding foreign policy and 'neo-fabricated war' with influence enough to occupy 40% of all available seating at our now-very-expensive top universities, and with primary interests in remaining democraphically domininant as a distinct social class, well then, there's also - really - absolutely no approach left open for ... solutions to the maniacal imbalance of human worth which has been quite aggressively arranged.

Anyone who speaks out is automatically designated as the primary threat to a healthy society. I'd say a baby born into a American Black family deserves a better than 1/10,000th-the-likelihood chance of going to med school as it would have if born to Jewish parents.

That's a real 'problem' needing attention, IMO.

Oprah left his church after 2 years because she realized he was batshit crazy.

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Politico and it's "News"!

POLITICO just copied/pasted.

Here's the ORIGINAL source--a publication about as far from POLITICO as one can get: http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local_wright_0610jun1...

just like the reports that black voters passed Prop 8, which was impossible.

It's just more of the same.

I have a big intuitive reaction to any kind of bigotry, can't help it. But this sounds more like the media trying to make trouble to me.

this is indefensible and whatever motive there was in publishing it is less important than that he said it and what it says about him --that he's a bigot who should have ZERO credibility with any of us.

If he went off on a diatribe about Jews, yes, that is indefensible.

Do we know that's what he did? It's hard to keep in mind how all his other cherry-picked statements were broadcast in the media and not be suspicious of this report.

But, good job, telling me what I should think in the absence of confirmation.

and to me, as long as it said that (whether as part of a longer diatribe or ON ITS OWN, i don't care if it was in a 1000-page book, everything he says is worthless to me.

this crap has got to stop.

the only reed you have left is that maybe he didn't say that.

stop defending this guy unless you don't actually think he said "them Jews".

And I'm not reaching for any reed but waiting to fill in what I know because this guy hasn't ever been reported accurately.

If you need to judge Wright immediately, that's fine. I know our media well enough to hold off because like so many reports, this could be b#llshit. If you don't like that, I don't know what to say to you. I have zero tolerance for anti-Semites. I also have zero tolerance for bullshit in our media.

if those two words came out of his mouth, and i'm assuming based on the report that they did, we should all be upset.

that this was a media created flap to swipe at the president. We'll see soon enough.

head and made him say it. You are really a mega apologist in this thread for ugly bigotry. Congrats!

It can't be any more cut and dried than that. How can you possibly say that "this could be b#llshit" when we have him on audio saying it? Come on now, how can you possibly spin this to somehow be the media's fault?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/06/10/rev_w...

I hadn't heard it.

And the day I don't question the media, please call 911 out to my place.

What-you-think(?) they'll let him talk to me
or
How-can-you-think(?) they'll let him talk to me

After listening a dozen times, I honestly still can't tell what he said

The discussion will continue, though, as if it's an established fact that he said what was reported.

>Sigh<

There is an abrupt sort of skip which could indicate a cut after he said "How could you|let ** him talk to me?" The skip being where I put the divider. There is nothing that even vaguely sounds like it could be "them Jews" on that audio. But since something seems very likely to have been cut, who knows? I'm witholding judgement.

Now not only does he feel that Jews keep him from the President (and not simply staffers carrying out the President's wishes), but he also has a totally one-sided view of the Israel/Palestine situation. Since the staffers' views of the Palestinian situation have no bearing on Wright's admittance into Pres. Obama's presence, the explanation comes off as a gratuitous slam against Israel's right to exist. Just have to keep wondering why no matter what manner of injustice the U.S. has inflicted on this or that portion of the world, the reaction is almost never that the U.S. must cease to exist, even when the speaker is so angry that they feel the U.S. should be somehow punished. Or Australia (another country created by colonization) or any country other than Israel. Sheesh! And people wonder why Jews feel that they need a country. Bigotry, even from the mouth of a member of a long-oppressed ethnic group, always sounds ugly.

Where oh where did Rev. Wright mention "Israel's right to exist"?

Please link to it and cite to it, line and verse.

STILL?!!!

unfuckingbelievable...

One thing we KNOW for sure - wright's and ASSHOLE - and he PROVES it DAILY...

Not the reporting of it.

I'm sure you or I or any multitude of people could find a way to express disappointment or even bitterness without resorting to bigoted language.

And I'M getting fucking tired of the excuses people dredge up for behavior like Rev. Wright's.

But good luck.

Buh- bye

I think he was referring to David Bowie, Iggy Popp and Lou Reed.

Prada, Manolo and Piperlime

maybe he's right. If Obama wanted to call him, he could. I'd be surprised Obama has talked to him at some point (via phone, text or email), but Wright wants the photo-op and Obama's people don't want to give it to him. There's nothing good that will come of it from Obama's standpoint and it's not worth the grief.

rahm is`t well liked by the liberals and progressives in illinois

they both think dem "Jews" really run the world.

without putting "Fucking" in front of it since the Not-So-Good Reverend went off like a nutcase at the Press Club. I don't think Obama ever wants to see, hear, or speak to that guy, ever again.

I don't think Obama LIKES the guy much, anymore. Wright was not a friend to him. He took a bad situation, and deliberately made it worse, because in Wright's view, it was all about him.

It ain't "them Jews" keeping Wright at bay. It's Obama who's made the decision to keep that nutball off the wires and out of his life.

the Bill Moyers interview with Wright that was broadcast the night before that National Press Club nightmare?

He came across as a measured, thoughtful, very, very intelligent, composed man with a striking resume who handled himself like a real pro.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04252008/profile.html

The guy I saw the next day at the NPC was someone else entirely, right down to the Nation Of Islam bodyguards.

As schizoid as anything I've ever witnessed..............

The most Rev. is referring to the secret cabal of Jews that run everything. It is a common and disgusting conspiracy theory.

seems to feel betrayed by Obama.

I'm sure they both feel betrayed by the other. I don't understand, for the life of me, how Reverend Wright can possibly take that betrayal out on "them Jews!" That's horrible.

and colors. You'd think someone like that, in his position, would have learned the empathy necessary to leave that sort of bigotry behind. Unfortunately, he seemingly has a way to go.

to most.

Oh, the white folks hate the black folks,
And the black folks hate the white folks.
To hate all but the right folks
Is an old established rule.

But during National Brotherhood Week, National Brotherhood Week,
Lena Horne and Sheriff Clarke are dancing cheek to cheek.
It's fun to eulogize
The people you despise,
As long as you don't let 'em in your school.

Oh, the poor folks hate the rich folks,
And the rich folks hate the poor folks.
All of my folks hate all of your folks,
It's American as apple pie.

But during National Brotherhood Week, National Brotherhood Week,
New Yorkers love the Puerto Ricans 'cause it's very chic.
Step up and shake the hand
Of someone you can't stand.
You can tolerate him if you try.

Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics,
And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
And the Hindus hate the Muslims,
And everybody hates the Jews.

But during National Brotherhood Week, National Brotherhood Week,
It's National Everyone-smile-at-one-another-hood Week.
Be nice to people who
Are inferior to you.
It's only for a week, so have no fear.
Be grateful that it doesn't last all year!




But seriously, it seems like that. I was watching a video showing civil unrest in Mexico, and was astonished at what one man said.

"The Jews have ruled America since 1624." That's the quote as best I can remember it. Mind you, this man might easily be mistaken for what papers amazingly refer to as a "Mexican peasant" implying I assume that he is not educated and makes his living picking vegetables. I found it most interesting that this comment was so specific, dating the alleged Jewish conquest of America (not clear on whether he means all of North America, just Mexico, or the US) to a specific year. I was astonished. It's not that I didn't think there was racism in Mexico, simply that I wasn't aware that there was anti-semitism.

Obama is well-known for his emotionless pragmatism. If he doesn't need someone, they're dead to him.

That's not a criticism, it's a good trait to have, to some extent, when you have to make decisions of the highest order. It's pointless to spend time getting agitated about conditions that cannot be changed.

Wright is a "condition that cannot be changed." The man is toxic. Whether that's due to him just being a bigoted ass, or if it's because he's suffering from the onset of dementia, is hard to determine. In any event, he's dead to Obama. He'd better start wrapping his brain around that simple reality.

I don't think Obama will have anything to do with Wright, ever again, if he can help it. If Wright died, he'd probably let the press office write the prepared statement, and not change a single word of whatever they ginned up.

And "them JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ" at the White House (to say nothing of those of all faiths, or none, who answer the switchboards) will probably make damn sure he doesn't get past that switchboard, EVER.

EVER!! Because he's dead to them, too!

Pathetic old fool. What a jerk. He just "needs" to bask in that spotlight, so he says outrageous things to make it happen--he can't stand retirement in the shadows!

Even if you harbor dislike, distrust, hatred, or animosity towards a group of people, if you are a public figure then you have to know better than to make such a remark where it will be heard, read, or repeated.

Wright likes the sound of his own voice, no doubt about it. But has he lost his mind?

Or possibly, he's got both of those issues on his plate.

http://oldjewstellingjokes.com /

And yes, my mother was Jewish ......................

http://www.internationaljewishconspiracy.com/

http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-local_wright_0610jun1...

another piece of shit cut and paste from politico.....

wright can express his opinion and we can disagree with him.

That's what it looks like.

keeping him away from Obama- presumably Axelrod and Emanuel. He's simply a bigot. Good to know who the folks are here who are hypocrite apologists for bigots though.

I don't have enough information to hate Wright at the moment. I only have what Politico has reported. But, you go ahead and do what you do best. And thanks for calling me a hypocritical apologist. I'll have to tell my three nieces that their aunt is an anti-Semite.

Maybe the oldest, Rachel, will put me on a time out. lol

and it's not just this latest comment. Interesting that you who are so quick to demonize anyone who, for instance, offers the mildest criticism of Chavez, is not willing to condemn what Wright said. And no, I certainly did not call you an anti-semite. I doubt very much that you are. I think you are wedded to a certain political philosophy however. And I think that political philosophy makes you reluctant to recognize bias or bigotry from those that you believe are on "your side".

verbatim, that's me all over.

It's too easy and first reports generally turn out to be wrong.

yes you do.

really.

on the same day when a Nazi shoots up the Holocaust Museum, you have enough information to know where Wright's words lead us and it's nowhere good.

Wow.

don't be obtuse now.

you can't pretend that various utterances of "Them Jews" and the like as well as the type of hate that undergirds them has no connection to violence against Jews and symbols of their existence and history.

trying to break down walls between the different subcultures in his community. For you to paint him as some kind of raging anti-Semite is just wrong. For you to associate him with that horrible man is even worse.

I am not obtuse in any way. I am agonstic until I learn better. If that bothers you, maybe you should do something about that.

and yes, the kind of disgusting verbiage he used leads to ugly things. disgusting that you're defending such shit. truly repulsive. just

Seriously, this is from Politico.

I may be one of the few people here who's actually met Jeremiah Wright. He's not perfect, and has clearly violated denominational standards on more than one occasion (for which I have screamed loud and long at Conference staff). But I've never known him to be a bigot of any kind. Most of what is printed about him is taken out of context or includes a whole lot of redaction.

like this one?

you know, i never thought of my step grandmother as a bigot but one day (when I was 10) she reacted to something on the news by saying, "Hitler should have finished them off the first time..."

that was almost 30 years ago now and it was a shock and i was the one she was talking to!

of course based on her overall statements by that time, she didn't fit the pattern of bigotry --but within years she was a Pat Buchanan, immigrant hating bigot. she didn't become one later, she was when she made that first statement.

maybe he doesn't fit your definition of a bigot, but i'm concerned about any motivation to explain it away or diminish its significance.

He really was an anti-Semite.

However, I must admit I expect a bit more from Reverend Wright, some 500+ years later.

unfuckingbelievable...

some IDIOTS will TRY to defend ANYTHING, I guess...

it's still DISGUSTING - AND it DOESN'T work...

political, ethnic, or religious group here)", and it's okey dokey?

Or is it that nasties leveled at Jews are still the only slur thats ok?

and that's what he deserves to be called. He earned it before this with his asshole remarks about whites inventing AIDS to kill blacks. He's earned it yet again.

I guess it's possible that's what was said, but I can't tell.

The beginning of the sentence is spoken very quickly and the sound quality is quite poor

Can't say either way.

idiot bigot.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/06/rev-wri...

sarcasm

what kind of "somebody" is THAT....

A stupid right-wing racist homophobic antisemitic fundamentalist nut-job?

yup

"blame the Jew" crowd, again

I hope Obama doesn't waste time addressing this guy's cloying attention-seeking anti-semitism.

needs to look in his mirror. Another recent link quoted the Rev saying "Obama's made mistakes but I still think of him as my child"(paraphrasing)

So, of course, Wright doesn't make any mistakes?

Good ol Politico.

ya know?

You're not doing anybody any favors.

He represents the bankruptcy-side of the Liberation Theology movement.

Rahm Israel Emanuel <-- Zionist and main filter to Obama...

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Wright said that when he went to the polls, he did not hold any grudge against Obama.

"Of course I voted for him; he's my son. I'm proud of him," Wright said. "I've got five biological kids. They all make mistakes and bad choices. I haven't stopped loving any of them.

"He made mistakes. He made bad choices. I've got kids who listen to their friends. He listened to those around him. I did not disown him."

Asked if he had spoken to the president, Wright said: "Them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me. I told my baby daughter, that he'll talk to me in five years when he's a lame duck, or in eight years when he's out of office. ...

"They will not let him to talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is. ... I said from the beginning: He's a politician; I'm a pastor. He's got to do what politicians do."

Wright also said Obama should have sent a U.S. delegation to the World Conference on Racism held recently in Geneva, Switzerland, but that the president did not do so for fear of offending Jews and Israel.

"Ethnic cleansing is going on in Gaza. Ethnic cleansing (by) the Zionist is a sin and a crime against humanity, and they don't want Barack talking like that because that's anti-Israel," Wright said.

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his heritage is really irrelevant, but from your post, it appears that he's Jewish is part of your complaint.

You're putting words into my mouth -- bad form!

I'm not now nor have I ever been against ANYONE because of their race, religion, ethnicity, etc. etc. etc.

However, it appears from your post that you don't know the difference between Zionist and Jewish... For your education, Zionists come in many different religions -- some are Jewish. Many (most?) USAmerican Jews are NOT Zionists.

He's a rabid supporter of the Israeli government, right or wrong... And lately they've been horribly wrong. That's what I have against all Zionist Fanatics.

If it weren't for his Zionism and his pro-corporate and pro-war bias and the way he allegedly treats underlings, I'd really like the guy's voting record on social issues.

what do you think of that?

I've made it clear that when he uses "Jews" as a derogatory term I'm against it.

When one considers the point he's trying to make -- it's technically correct.

What part of reading English are you skipping? The comprehension part?

Was David Duke also "technically corrrect" when you considered the points he was trying to make? I'm sure you were against Duke when he used "ni***rs" as a derogatory term as well though, right?

and who abhor the occupation. And Emanuel is not a rabid supporter of Israel. He's supportive of Obama's approach to I/P. Hardly the position of a Zionist fanatic.

Your hate is sick.

but but but Zionism and Zionists are all racists and blood thirsty criminals who only want to see death and destruction to Palestinians, Arabs, and Muslims.

/sarcasm

Your post could not be more dead on. It'd be nice if some people on this website would stop using the same tactics that they decry and denounce when done from the other side.

Rev. Wright it's not all about you, now is it?

You do your job in your city and let Mr. President do his in his country.

Deflect. Distract. Deny.

I don't excuse his choice of words -- they are divisive and probably not 100% accurate (there are plenty of Gentile Dems who would block his access to Obama, too -- Dems as a class tend to be a bunch of weak sisters...)

But Rev. Wright's POINT IS correct.

There is one Jewish person who can deny any possibility of contact between Wright and Obama.

That particular Jewish person is probably not the only filter but he is a main one...

One could say, "Them blacks control the US." or "Them Muslims are terrorists." and both points would be correct according to you.

There is one black person is the leader of the United States. He isn't the only person who controls the United States, but he is a main one.

Also, there are some Muslims who are terrorists. They aren't the only terrorists, but there are some. By the logic you use in this post above, these statements would be correct.

That's why you shouldn't be okay with categorizing a person based on their characteristics.

It's your alleged "logic" that is faulty along with your fallacious assumption that I am "characterizing" Mr. Emanuel...

Your assignment, go back and carefully read all of my posts...

Then come back and try again...

Despite the fact that my response was to one post in particular, and you know what, your post still looks like you are defending Reverend Wright.

"But Rev. Wright's POINT IS correct. There is one Jewish person who can deny any possibility of contact between Wright and Obama. That particular Jewish person is probably not the only filter but he is a main one..."

Those are your words unchanged. Now tell me how the changes I made to your example don't stand? Why is saying "There is one Black person" or "There is one Gay person" a logical fallacy from the example you stated? Especially given that the original statement in question was "Them Jews" not "A Jew" or "That Jew" which, IMO, would still be just as bad.

But I'm guessing you will again respond with a smiley and avoid the point altogether.