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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 05:08 AM
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Parents guilty of manslaughter over daughter's eczema death
Source: Sydney Morning Herald (Oz)

A couple whose baby daughter died after they treated her with homeopathic remedies instead of conventional medicine have been found guilty of manslaughter...

Thomas Sam, 42, a homeopath, and Manju Sam, 37, of Earlwood, Sydney, were charged with manslaughter by gross criminal negligence....

The court heard the couple took Gloria to various health professionals, but while they abandoned each conventional medication she was prescribed within a short time of starting it, they solidly pursued homeopathic remedies...

The Crown said these did not work...



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/parents-guilty-of-mansla...



Once again, parents vs state over medical care.

I am sure that the parents did not wish their child to die, and that they had a true belief in homeopathy, however, as the Crown asserted, there is no evidence that homeopathy has any effect beyond placebo effect.

Belief need not equal truth.

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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 05:16 AM
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1. Maybe they didn't wish for their child to die
But their wish for their child to live didn't exactly come across as very fervent.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 05:56 AM
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2. I did not know eczema could be fatal!!! damn, I thought it was JUST
a skin condition???
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 06:45 AM
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9. I had no idea, and it's something I suffer from. So does my daughter
ours is a dairy allergy and certainly not as extreme as this case. The poor baby. :cry:
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 06:49 AM
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10. i don't think it was the eczema... probably a reaction to whatever they gave her?? probably??
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 06:58 AM
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11. septicemia that had developed in her left eye.
"The skin condition wore down her natural defences and left her completely vulnerable when she developed an eye infection that killed her within days of developing."

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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 07:05 AM
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14. OMG!! i thought eczema was just like a rash or something but not really
dangerous!! geesh!!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 07:20 AM
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19. Yeah, all that is related to shingles/herpes/etc., and can screw up your immune system
That's when I usually get a bad attack -- when I've been very stressed or sick.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 07:03 AM
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12. Untreated exzema can lead to infection,
sometimes systemic. Happened to my son.
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Stellabella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 10:47 PM
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49. I didn't know that either, but your skin is the body's largest organ.
If it's really bad, I could see it aggravating other problems.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 08:25 PM
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60. I had terrible eczema as a toddler..

Was hospitalized,etc. Yes, it can get very bad and lead to infections,etc. if not treated.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 06:04 AM
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3. When I read claims like this I reserve my opinion till the facts
from both sides are revealed, but immediately I question why the medical world that causes so many deaths get away with little harrassement for denying healthcare treatment for the poor. But cases where parents make the best discision based on what they see going on makes them criminally liable. We shall see how the parents coping with the death of a child will be harrassed and targeted by our powerful DOJ.
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patriotvoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 07:27 AM
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21. This happened in Australia, whose Federal government provides primary care...
but each state is responsible for hospital operation. Private care services, paid outside tax dollars, are also available.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 07:28 AM
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22. I feel bad for the parents coping with the death caused by their terrible decisions
And the bit about "the medical world that causes so many deaths" is a red herring ill-supported by careful analysis of the facts.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:31 AM
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38. They didn't make the best decision. They went with woowoo bullshit, and their kid paid for it.
NT!

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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 02:03 AM
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52. Sugar water was the "best decision"?
Edited on Mon Jun-08-09 02:04 AM by Codeine
No it wasn't. It was ignorance and raw, unadulterated stupidity. We're long since past the point where homeopathy should even be legal.
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mdavies013 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 06:25 AM
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4. I would ask if either were homeopathic doctors or took their baby to one before using the remedies..

I don't like to hear that only "conventional" medicine works. I have had multiple and worsening reactions to different types of antibiotics. I use a homeopathic remedy if I get a cold and feel an ear infection coming on. So my use of that remedy is the placebo effect?

So Chinese medicine is a large placebo effect?

I find it difficult to accept that if you are not using "conventional" medicine that you will be prosecuted. It sounds like an expansion of the FDA which of course has done no damage to approving drugs that have major catastrophic side effects.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 06:30 AM
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5. No, you won't be prosecuted for using homeopathic remedies
In the U.S. and evidently in other places, you may be prosecuted if you treat your child with homeopathic or other alternative medicines and that child dies. And sorry, but virtually all the scientific studies to date show that homeopathy does not have any efficacy beyond a placebo effect.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 06:44 AM
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7. I used to argue on a yahoo group for cats with heart disease, most were in
congestive heart failure from hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. One woman's homeopathically inclined vet prescribed a homeopathic digitalis remedy for humans, that almost killed her cat.

I had to plead with her to disconinue using the product. She started lasix and an ACE inhibitor, which is the conventional approach, and the cat immediately improved, because the fluid seeping into her cats lungs dissipated.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 05:54 PM
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39. Homeopathic "medicines" are water.
Edited on Sat Jun-06-09 05:54 PM by dorkulon
Water. Nothing but. Look at it this way: If my kids dies from some easily treated condition like eczema, and I said, "Well, I dumped a bunch of water on her, what else could I do," how much sympathy would you have for me?

Homeopathy is unsupported by modern scientific research. The extreme dilutions used in homeopathic preparations usually leave none of the original material in the final product. The modern mechanism proposed by homeopaths, water memory, is considered implausible in that water's structure is believed to last only about 1 picosecond.<80><81> Pharmacological effect without active ingredients is inconsistent with the observed dose-response relationships of conventional drugs,<82> leaving only non-specific placebo effects<9><83><84> or various novel explanations. The proposed rationale for these extreme dilutions that the water contains the "memory" or "vibration" from the diluted ingredient is counter to the laws of chemistry and physics.<80> The lack of convincing scientific evidence supporting its efficacy<19> and its use of remedies without active ingredients have led to characterizations as pseudoscience and quackery,<20><21><22><85> or, in the words of a 1998 medical review, "placebo therapy at best and quackery at worst."<23> Use of homeopathy may delay or replace effective medical treatment, worsening outcomes or exposing the patients to increased risk.<4><6><11><86>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy#Medical_and_sci...


But I'm sure you'll tell me I'm just being "close-minded."
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 05:38 PM
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47. Did you hear about the homeopath who drank distilled water?
He died of an overdose.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 05:51 PM
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48. Now THAT's funny.
:fistbump:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 06:41 AM
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6. I cannot even imagine what fatal excema is like.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 06:45 AM
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8. I did not read the article - but I suspect side affects due to treatments.
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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 07:05 AM
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13. apparently, septicemia
horrible death for anyone, let alone a little child
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 07:30 AM
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23. Hmm. A side affect of neglect. Thanks for the clarification.
Edited on Fri Jun-05-09 07:35 AM by geckosfeet
Description of Septicemia



Septicemia

Alternative Names
Blood poisoning; Bacteremia with sepsis

Definition
Septicemia is the presence of bacteria in the blood (bacteremia) and is often associated with severe disease.

Causes
Septicemia is a serious, life-threatening infection that gets worse very quickly. It can arise from infections throughout the body, including infections in the lungs, abdomen, and urinary tract. It may come before or at the same time as infections of the bone (osteomyelitis), central nervous system (meningitis), or other tissues.


on edit: added link and exceprt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 07:07 AM
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15. no. homeopathic remedies would not cause side affects that would be fatal
in fact, it's unlikely they'd cause any side affects whatsoever.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 07:10 AM
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17. Homeopathy means something contains a MAGICAL "memory" of something that isn't there anymore.
Anyone who believes in THAT is a total fucking moron.

Period.

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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 06:09 PM
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40. Nor any primary effects.
Homeopathy is an elaborate way of doing nothing at all.
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du_grad Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 09:15 PM
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42. Eczema can turn into cellulitis
I am a clinical microbiologist. My suspicion (and I obviously have no insider information here) is that the eczema got infected and turned into some sort of cellulitis, which is a skin infection.

http://dermatology.about.com/od/infectionbacteria/a/cel...
http://kidshealth.org/parent/infections/skin/cellulitis...

Cellulitis can be caused by many different bacteria and is very serious. Usually people with cellulitis are admitted to a hospital and put on IV antibiotics. The description of her cornea dissolving can happen with Pseudomonas aeruginosa, which is an organism that is opportunistic and can infect people with lowered immunity. It is commonly found in water. It doesn't cause problems for most of us, but with open skin and a lowered immunity it could be deadly. Again, I am speculating as to the causative organism only because of the way the eye infection was described in the article.

My guess is that this poor child died of massive bacterial infection and septicemia (which means that bacteria invade the blood and cause sepsis). This used to be referred to as "blood poisoning" and can be fatal if untreated. Doctors check for septicemia in a hospital setting by having blood cultures drawn. The patient's blood is put into liquid growth media and incubated for up to five days. There are numerous automated methods now for monitoring bacterial growth in the culture. When the instrument flags the bottle as positive, we pull it, make a smear of the broth inside, and report what type of bacteria we see to the floor right away, so that the patient can be put on the appropriate antibiotic immediately.

Severe eczema occurs occasionally. Friends of ours had a son that was allergic to practically everything and had severe skin breakouts numerous times. However, he was under a physician's care and now has attained the ripe old age of 24. He still has food allergies but not the severe skin problems any more. I am very saddened by this article, as it seems that this situation was totally avoidable. I think the parents were misguided either by their education, lack of education, or family belief system. It's sad that nobody intervened sooner to save this poor child.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 03:52 PM
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57. No; homeopathic remedies are most unlikely to cause either good or harm directly
Anything - from drugs to sunshine - that is powerful enough to cure or prevent disease also carries a risk of side effects, but homeopathy just does nothing generally.

In this case, the child evidently died because the eczema resulted in a skin infection that became systemic, and was not treated effectively because the parents relied just on the homeopathy.

Very tragic indeed.



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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 07:08 AM
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16. Maybe their crib still contains the vibrational memory of their daughter?
:sarcasm:

Stupid, stupid people.

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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 02:05 AM
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53. I'm a bad person,
but that really made me laugh.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 07:19 AM
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18. Mine can get very, very bad, and only heavy-duty steroid cream kills it
And, even that takes a few days. It's cream not allowed on children, but they have other types babies can use, and oral steroids can work, too.

Nothing else works for me, and I've tried other things when I've been in a punch, including tea tree oil (which is a legit medicine in its own right).

I am all for using natural meds, but sometimes they don't work.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 07:23 AM
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20. would they have done this if Gloria had been a baby Boy?
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:15 AM
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26. Um, I'm going to assume you aren't asking because they're Indian. nt
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:00 AM
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24. recommend
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:10 AM
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25. Modern medicine is not "conventional" as noted in the article.
Neither is it "traditional." It is not the result of either convention or tradition. It is scientific, developed through testing and based on proven theoretical* principals. Homeopathy is actually a much better candidate for the term "conventional" because it is based solely on the made-up conventions of that point of view. It has no basis in scientific theory and it has never been shown to be effective in clinical testing. It really should have been left in the dust bin of the 19th century except it filled a psychological need for a harmless, but ineffective "remedy" when scientific testing discredited most truly traditional remedies (bleeding, purging etc.) and provided nothing to replace them.


*By "theory" I mean it agrees with what we already know about biology and chemistry etc.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:40 AM
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27. There are many illnessesthat modern medicine can only control or slow
such as allergies, lupus, arthritis, asthma etc. Most of them are auto-immune diseases. People in this situation are very susceptible to wishful thinking.
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mrs_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:45 AM
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28. good point - but a bacteremia
can be cured if caught in time and treated with the proper antimicrobials
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:48 AM
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29. Pro-biotics can prevent or help eczema fyi.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 08:57 AM
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30. Never heard of pro-biotics. What is it?
:shrug:

Actually, why don't I just look it up?

:7
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BuddhaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 10:39 AM
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32. yes, definitely true.
n/t
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 12:18 PM
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33. Only in very mild cases
Eczema is a autoimmune issue. Probiotics are good with digestive issues. But they don't have anything to do with antibody formation. Thats what happens...an allergic response to yourself. You wouldn't tell someone with Lupus to eat yogurt and the will be all better would you? Pretty much the same thing.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 03:43 PM
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36. It is?
I wonder if it is related to my joint pains. I get both when I'm stressed out.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 05:21 PM
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46. I've been taking probiotics for almost six years
and, maybe a coincidence, but I haven't had a cold or the flu during these six years.
I can't attest to the effectiveness. I just know I don't miss a day of taking my probiotic.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 08:33 AM
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55. During that same period of time I have not been attacked by a tiger, either
YOu taking probiotics are protectng me from tiger attacks, no?
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 07:57 PM
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58. Probiotics keep the intestinal tract healthy
which helps to prevent illness.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 09:06 PM
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61. Brawndo has electolytes
It's what plants crave. Same thing really.
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 01:31 PM
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56. I've never taken probiotics
And, maybe a coincidence, but I've only had 2 colds in 8 years, even living with my outbreak monkey public school attending 8 year old child. Both colds came subsequent to highly stressful times, one after gallbladder removal surgery, one after my grandfather died.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 08:21 PM
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59. Just sharing some info on what has helped me
It could be your natural diet includes probiotics which are protecting your intestinal tract. (Like yogurt). Not sure why people here are so threatened by others sharing what could be useful.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 10:19 AM
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31. FYI: Septicemia = blood poisoning.
Someone noted that up thread, but I wanted to underscore it. "Blood poisoning" was a well-known condition up to the 1930s. It was almost always fatal. It killed the son of President Coolidge. It nearly killed FDR Jr. It did not because Mrs. Roosevelt insisted doctors try an experimental German treatment called Prontisil, the first of the sulfa antibiotic drugs. Well, it worked. Since the 1930s, blood poisoning fatalities have been mostly unknown because of the cheap, harmless and effective treatment of antibiotics.

In WWI, like all previous wars, infection killed more men than bullets. In WWII, the liberal use of "sulfa" eliminated the threat. Likewise, it eliminated a major risk for new mothers, the so-called "child-bed fever."

Turning ones back on antibiotics is like turning ones back on democracy or racial equality. These battles against the killers of humanity and of children especially were hard won victories for human progress, just like social and politcal reforms have been.
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du_grad Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 12:41 PM
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44. Blood poisoning still kills people every day
Antibiotics can work, but they have to be given early enough. We report out 10-20 positive blood cultures a day (or more, some days), and that's just our lab. Labs all over the country deal with these on a daily basis. Our lab does the microbiology work for three hospitals, 25+ nursing homes, and other outpatient outreach. Most blood cultures are drawn on in-house patients or very sick nursing home patients. Sepsis is NOT a thing of the past.

Our preliminary reports on positive blood culture specimens are considered critical reports and they are called to the floor/doctor immediately. They can be life threatening and patients must get antibiotics quickly or they can die.

Sulfa drugs are still in use, but they have been supplanted by many other antibiotics as bacteria have changed their susceptibility patterns and antibiotics have changed.

Many antibiotics are anything but cheap and harmless. MRSA, especially in positive blood cultures, continues to be a problem for many ICU patients. Daptomycin is ten times more expensive than Vancomycin, which is currently about the only drug that can be used against MRSA in positive BC's. Dapto is really really really expensive and infectious disease docs are starting to use it in non-responsive septic MRSA patients. Vanco is also really expensive, and blood levels must be monitored to keep the dosage in therapeutic range. Usage of lifesaving antibiotics can deal a second blow: Clostridium difficile pseudomembranous colitis. C. diff is a real big problem in hospitals also, and strains of it are showing up as resistant to antibiotics. When you throw all of these bacteria off their balance, nasty things happen in the body that aren't pretty.

Believe me, you DON'T want to have septicemia in a hospital setting nowadays.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 12:38 PM
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34. I've been accused of The Woo for using herbalism, but...
I've yet to be convinced by any study that homeopathy is effective. I'm still amazed that it's so widely embraced in France.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 01:20 PM
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35. If she died of a systemic infection, she must have been in great
misery - they MUST have noticed, and yet they ignored it - I have heard of people doing terrible shit like this because they were "religious" and they thought god was testing their faith in prayer healing or some such nonsense, but I have no concept how anyone could allow a loved one to suffer like that.

mark
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:29 AM
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37. GOOD. Parents don't have the right to kill their kids for their own insane delusions.
Edited on Sat Jun-06-09 02:29 AM by Zhade
NT!

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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 06:13 PM
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41. Not everyone trusts conventional medicine.
I had a friend who was born prematurely and had a compromised immune system. When she was a toddler she and her mother were infected with gonorrhea by her father. There was denial so it was untreated and not picked up by doctors. Eventually she had all kinds of recurring systemic infections, including skin infections.

She had lost her trust of MDs along the way when she had appendicitis and it was misdiagnosed. She had to insist on being taken to three hospitals. Her appendix was taken out at the third hospital, ready to rupture. After that it was pretty hard to convince her to see an MD for anything. She hated and distrusted them with good reason. She sought homeopathic treatment for her skin infections. Sometimes it worked, sometimes not. It seemed no better or worse than conventional medicine. At least it did not harm her.

I could see how this kind of thinking could carry over to treatment of a child.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 11:47 PM
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43. You know, I've never had a prescription work on mine.
I've had a few different ones over the years, and the only thing that works is using the best thick cream I can find and keeping it clean and dry as much as possible. Same with the kids. I'm wondering if they tried the meds, only to find they caused massive side effects or didn't work, and turned to this instead. Since we don't have their side, I'm going to reserve judgement.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 02:00 PM
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45. How could they be so stupid?
I understand that they didn't want to use pharmas (although I would have done anything to relieve my baby's misery) - but there are so many healing remedies (NOT homeopathic) they could have used that would have relieved this poor baby's pain! Just rubbing her down with coconut oil would have made a big difference in her comfort. There are so many natural herbs, extracts and oils that are non-toxic and relieve itching, even kill bacteria and fungus. I just don't get it - didn't they even look at her little body and see what was happening? Their child died for their arrogance and insistence on doing what was obviously NOT WORKING. I hate these people, and I don't like to hate. It ruins my day.

I hope they don't decide to have more children.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 11:53 PM
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50. The father sounds like he has a true belief in homeopathy that continues.
However, the mother seems to have many more regrets. I wonder if she had doubts while her child was alive. If she did, and now realizes that she should have acted on them, I have to feel sorry for her.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 01:25 AM
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51. The son of friends had severe eczema from infancy. The dad tried homeopathy one year...
... when the boy was still in grade school. I think he (the dad) was just so sick of treatments that never brought a cure -- he loved his little boy, but the kid was just not normal or well.

The mom told me that their boy went along with it all for a solid year (and after all what choice did the kid have? and he was trying to please his dad) but by the end he confided to his mom that he just wanted to die. That's a horrible thing to have to hear from your kid, and it spurred her to act.

After that she put her foot down and insisted they return to conventional medicine and an MD's advice. The boy was not ever going to be normal, but at least he was more comfortable and able to live with his condition.

Poor little Gloria Sam...

Hekate



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bos1 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 02:51 AM
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54. if you're trying to score points in using this tragic case, you're a real jerk.
This isn't about belief versus truth, and homeopathy is not on trial here. These people kept switching treatments, and it sounds like they were in denial about the severity of the problem.
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