Rove: Ending Torture Gives Terrorists ‘A Tool To Make It More Attractive To Recruit People’

[sabra]

Source: ThinkProgress

As conservatives continue to rally around torture, Karl Rove last night praised Dick Cheney for his “reasoned, thoughtful series of observations” about how President Obama has made the U.S. less safe. He also conjectured that ending the practice of torture will provide al Qaeda with a great “tool” to help them recruit new terrorists:

ROVE: Taking, for example, the memoranda about the enhanced interrogation techniques and making them public has been a value to our enemy. It has served, frankly, I think, as a recruiting tool. They can now take these memoranda and go to prospective, you know, recruits and say, This is the worst that the enemy, the United States, would ever do to you, and they’ve even forsworn these things. We can help you, prepare you to deal with these things, but even the enemy is so weak they’re not going to use these techniques on you. And it’s given them a tool to make it more attractive to recruit people, and you know, this kind of thing is harmful to us over the long haul.

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[tanyev]

1. Karl's brain just doesn't work like a normal person's brain does.

[lsewpershad]

15. His "brain"

does not work like other people's because he is a SICK MF who, not even GOD can help. His day wil[ come...in fact its nearer than he thinks...Karma never, never fails.

[ixion]

2. why is Rove not in the Hague yet

that's what I want to know.

And why anyone would give a crap what that sleazy bastard thinks is beyond me.

[CJCRANE]

3. "Down with the people who do not torture!"

"Fight against the people who will treat you as human beings!"

Rove's right, I can imagine the blood-curdling cries of outrage already.

[wryter2000]

13. LOL

You nailed it.

[hunter]

19. You'll be sorry when our enemies torture American Citizens with NON-TORTURE!!!

Can you imagine the outrage when an American Prisoner of War gets a nice meal, letters delivered by the Red Cross, and a comfortable place to sleep?

Those poor, poor, poor American POW's will be screaming in their rooms "Damn YOU all! Water Board Me! Stick my testicles in a light socket! Stack me up in a naked pyramid and take pictures of me!!! I'll tell you anything, just please, please STOP TREATING ME LIKE I'M HUMAN!!!"

[annabanana]

4. sick twisted fuck. . . . n/t

[No Elephants]

5. Um, these are folks who fly planes into buildings and blow themselves up.

[babylonsister]

6. Sure, karl, whatever your lil twisted mind tells you. nt

[opihimoimoi]

7. This is the Guy who Fucked Texas in the ass by helping Bush be a Gov., Then he makes Bush President

and gave us 8 years of destruction....of our Nation no Less....

and we gonna lissen to that Rat fucker?

He helps to bury the GOP....

[soryang]

8. The purpose of torture is to terrorize us

There are no two sides to the so called torture issue. Saying you're for torture is like saying you're for rape or murder. Naomi Klein says the purpose of torture is to send a message to us, the American people. The message says, we are the government, we are all powerful, we can do anything, power is arbitrary, we can do whatever we want to anyone, you are nothing, there is no such thing as civil rights, legal rights, due process, so fuck you while we take everything you thought you ever had.

[LuckyLib]

22. Yes indeed. And it's punctuated by messages like Katrina. You're on your own folks,

your "gubmint" has other priorities.

[liberalmuse]

9. Vote Republican: "We Torture!"

I say we test out Rove's theory on both Rove and Cheney. Torture those MFers.

[Avalux]

10. Karl is a dumbass. Terrorists die for their cause; they don't care if they're tortured.

Everyone knows torturing does not produce valuable information. WEAK COUNTRIES USE TORTURE. Rove still practicing his up is down mentality.

[Bolo Boffin]

11. And then the people say back to the terrorists --

"You know, if this is the worst they'd ever do to us, and now their society is so upset about it that they won't even do this -- maybe the U.S. isn't that bad! Why do you want me to blow myself up to stop them again?"

Rove is really losing his touch.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

12. Hey, Rove: we already ENDED torture! That's the LAW! For YEARS!

Fuck you, you vile prick!

[Aslanspal]

14. Wow! thats a new one

Pulling it out his ass....a new angle....have not heard this one before.

[Psychic Consortium]

16. He is admitting the torture was about power, control, domination.

Every time the sociopaths open their mouths, more of the truth comes out.

[Fresh_Start]

17. but nothing beats Bushco Abu Graib in terms of recruitment

for terrorists. Abu Graib, is the gift that keeps on giving for enemies of the US.

[Jefferson23]

18. LOL, only Rove would have the balls to say this.

Keep talking asshole, and keep digging that hole for yourself.

[Downwinder]

20. I have yet to meet a person

who dropped out of USAF Pilot training because they might get tortured if they were shot down. HEY, think thats why George went AWOL?

[louis-t]

21. all I can say is

[MisterP]

23. aw, gee, and here I was listening to historians and cultural studiers who kept telling me that

militants and terrorists (which they do differentiate from one another, even though we now know they're actually nonhuman demons from "Quake," led by steer-headed, wire-draped Cyberdemons like Sadr, bin Laden, or Hassan Dahir Aweys) recruit by noting that there's a blundering, cruel superpower which has invaded numerous Muslim countries, publicly mocked the idea of Middle Eastern sovereignty, had a population 60% and an opinion-making media 80% in favor of the obliteration of Islam as a factor in societies not their own (in the name of secular "Westernization"/"modernization"), and WHICH TORTURED AND USUALLY KILLED ANYONE WHO GOT IN ITS WAY.
I have come to realize that attacks are made against countries that appear weak, which is why howling zealots murdered everyone on Malta in 1997 and took over Costa Rica in 2003 (whose military was abolished in 1948, leading to a nonstop sequence of takeovers by autocracies, as forecast by Poul Anderson and Donald Kagan based on autocracies' inevitable destruction of other ideologies and crushing of powerless democratic neighbors, which they deduced from a drug-addled reading of the Greco-Persian Wars as the beginning of a permanent East-West autocracy-democracy conflict)

[Wizard777]

24. So this could actually boost the membership of terrorist groups like the RNC.

I guess you have to take the bad with the good. I'd rather have a bigger RNC and no torture than torture and no RNC.

[santamargarita]

25. I hope these assholes keep spewing their venom into all of next year

Keep talking, assholes

[florida08]

26. LOL

turd blossom thinks we care what he thinks..not to mention his assessment of Dick Cheney. Karl you are so predictable...lame but predictable. The only thing I want to hear about you is the date of rendition.

[DallasNE]

27. Using Rove's Logic

The 230 years before 9/11 should have been a great period to recruit terrorists and that only by torturing can we quell the recruiting of more terrorists.

Do these people even listen to what they say? Obviously, they don't mind how stupid they come across.

[wickerwoman]

28. "Yeah, I was thinking about becoming a suicide bomber...

then I found out they don't waterboard anymore and that clinched the deal."



Jackass.

[bemildred]

29. More ungrammatical babble from the master of babble.

"A Tool To Make It More Attractive To Recruit People." Speaking of tools.

[KakistocracyHater]

30. They said they didn't torture-it was a lie, they now say they did

torture, is this yet another lie(we know torture doesn't work), how do we know if now their being honest. Oh, yes: if their lips move it's a lie.

[Kablooie]

31. Boy, they are really stretching to try and find something to criticise.

[Frank Cannon]

32. Farrah Fawcett is dying of anal cancer

And shitbags like Rove and Cheney are still walking around fat and happy and polluting every fucking place they go.

If that isn't proof that there is no God, I don't know what is.

[Vinca]

33. The purest example of reverse logic ever printed.

[Toucano]

34. The opposite is true. Torture is the recruiting tool.

He knows this. They used Saddam's torture of people to recruit support for their invasion of Iraq. Rape rooms, rape rooms, rape rooms.

He obviously wants to keep the conflict fueled. Just like 1984.

[Joe Bacon]

35. He's just sick.

What makes me so angry is that he and his fellow Republic Party pals are going to walk away clean!

[Blue_Tires]

36. no matter how many times i see it

i never get used to seeing high-profile americans twist their minds trying to justify torture...this place stopped being america to me a while ago...

[Festivito]

37. It's a gambit. If you say it, people might buy it.

I'd think that the stories coming out of our Republican torture prisons are far worse than the actual information. And, they're just as scared of imprisoning as they are of torture.

Torture just gives them the additional martyr status that lets them recruit more.

Repukes are people who cannot understand or believe that you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.