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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 12:46 PM
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Bristol Palin promotes teen pregnancy prevention
Source: AP


Bristol Palin promotes teen pregnancy prevention

(05-05) 08:28 PDT Anchorage, Alaska (AP) --

Unwed mother Bristol Palin is going to take part in a national campaign to help raise awareness for teen pregnancy prevention.

The 18-year-old daughter of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has been appointed as a Teen Ambassador for The Candie's Foundation. Bristol Palin will participate in a town hall meeting Wednesday in New York.

She said in a statement that she feels she could be a living example of the consequences of teen pregnancy. She said she would consider it an accomplishment if she can prevent even one girl from getting pregnant.

Bristol Palin gave birth Dec. 27 to a boy named Tripp. She and the boy's father, Levi Johnston, have separated.

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Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/0...
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 12:47 PM
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1. I heard they know what causes that now.
:banghead:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #1
23. When you play "Hide the Polska Kielbasa", wear a Condom
she Proclaimed.

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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 02:53 PM
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33. I actually feel sorry for the kid.
Can you imagine having to break the news to Mommy Dearest right after she had been chosen as the VP candidate?

Gotta give her kudos for using her own miserable mistake to benefit other girls. I'm surprised her mother's letting her do this.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 09:58 PM
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56. Mommy knew Bristol was pregnant before she was
chosen as the VP. The McCain campaign claimed that Palin told them about it before the announcement, a claim I have never believed.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 09:33 AM
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64. Either way it would have sucked to be Bristol.
I wouldn't be surprised if her mother didn't partially blame her for losing the election.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 07:44 AM
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58. Yes probably true.
The unintended consequences can really suck at times
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 09:42 AM
Response to Reply #58
66. Thank you.
I checked your profile and was moved to re-read The Wall.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 08:20 AM
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63. "You shoulda put a SOCK on the pickle!" - Ice Cube.
:)
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 12:50 PM
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2. Gawd. What a great choice of spokesperson. I suppose if she helps one girl from getting pregnant...
... then she's been a positive influence. But damn. Just damn.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:20 PM
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12. She's promoting abstinence. Not one word about birth control on
the web site.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 02:33 PM
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32. yup she's the poster child for abstinence not working
:rolf: great spokes person. LOL
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TCJ70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 03:13 PM
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36. What are you talking about?
If she had practiced abstinence she wouldn't have gotten pregnant!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 04:58 PM
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38. she was practicing abstinence, that's the joke.
it didn't work.

Sigh.

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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 08:01 AM
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61. Practiced, but not perfected, so to speak eom
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 09:38 AM
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65. When reality hits the sheets LOL :) nt
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TCJ70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 03:36 PM
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87. Obviously she wasn't...
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:21 PM
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39. As a long term solution to the problem of teen pregnancies, abstinence programs
don't work. Their success rates are poor compared to programs that emphasize contraception information; too many girls who strive for abstinence fail -- and then get pregnant because they don't take precautions.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #36
55. Yes but total abstinence is
something the majority can't practice so it doesn't work, human beings are fallible.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 03:07 PM
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35. My original comment was based on the assumption that "abstinence only" generals fails but...
... if a couple of fundie kids bought into the concept and kept from getting pregnant, then that's a success of sorts.

However, on second blush and in light of your comments, it's likely that some girls who might have sought birth control could be convinced to rely on abstinence and get pregnant anyway. That would be a huge failure.

So, I go back to my original feelings way back when that she should stay back in Alaska and raise little Mapquest (or whatever his name is).
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:29 PM
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42. One problem is that because they buy into the abstinence philosophy,
having sex means they failed -- and using contraception would mean they failed ON PURPOSE. Not using contraception, they can rationalize that it was just an accident. They didn't intend to have sex, much less get pregnant, which excuses the "mistake" from their point of view.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:42 PM
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49. The only pre-marital sex they approve is sex that results in conception.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 11:13 PM
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57. "...and raise little Mapquest (or whatever his name is)."
:spray:

napkin, please!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 09:19 PM
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54. Contraceptives can fail. And birth control doesn't equate to disease control either...
Or emotional control; Levi used and left her. I doubt she's all happy right now, unless she's the throwaway partying type, and no doubt the media will keep an eye on her and report when she;'s out boozing it up on Saturday nights. Until then, I will take Bristol's words at face value. Hers is a valid point too. Until she's proven wrong.



And a generalized response, aimed at nobody in particular: I've read and listened to people on both sides of the issue. I choose to keep sex special. I'm sorry other people have a problem with some people wanting to keep it special. That's their problem and their loss. They can deal with it, but the rest of us needn't feel bad because we choose to keep it special. Gay, straight, bi, et cetera, we can choose to sleep with lots of people - or build a special relationship. Anyone who damns me or others for wanting the latter... go right ahead. Not all of us had to get knocked up or made ill because of selfishness. And, in some ways, I've been lucky too.



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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 12:52 PM
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3. Michael Jackson takes childraising advice on lecture tour.
Opens daycare center.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:41 PM
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24. I thought it was Juggling small children
Over shark infested waters on a cruise ship
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 12:53 PM
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4. I think Bristol is what I call a "very good bad example".
She at least can speak from experience. I am sure she has regrets.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 10:02 AM
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67. I'd like to dig deeper and ask how abstinence didn't work for her.
As HER her opinion just why and how did it not work and what are her recommendations and is she abstinent NOW...of course, I can't do that but if I were interviewing her I'd try...
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 12:55 PM
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5. Bristol, Bristol, Bristol, there's a simple rule...
BUT A FUCKING CONDOM ON IT!

But obviously Mom was too busy to explain that to her.

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:02 PM
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8. I heard they did that most of the time...almost always
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:24 PM
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14. It's called time management
When Sarah gave Bristol "the talk," Sarah probably spent ALL her time telling Bristol not to have sex and none of it telling her how not get pregnant when she does have sex.
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anachro1 Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 12:59 PM
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6. Do as I say
Not as I do.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:02 PM
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7. Hopefully she will take her own advice in the future
Especially if she gets involved with her FOB.

I guess she can become the next Betty Ford of the Republican Party--urging the faithful not to make her same mistakes or lending a helping hand to those who have already fallen.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:14 PM
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9. I assume this is an abstinence program? Not really prevention . . . n/t
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:15 PM
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10. Doesn't the Candies Corp. contribute to NORAL?. N/T
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snowdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:26 PM
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15. Here are some people who have be fundraising Honorees:.....

Seems to be a good organization--at first glance:

http://www.candiesfoundation.org/history.html



In June 2001, Candies launched The Candies Foundation, with the mission to educate America's youth about the devastating consequences of teenage pregnancy. The Foundation fuels a celebrity-driven public service announcement campaign that dramatically exposes the devastating consequences of teenage pregnancy, while educating and challenging Americas youth to make healthy decisions about sex.

Background
Neil Cole founded the Foundation in 2001 and since its launched The Candies Foundation has made over 500,000,000 million impressions to the teenage audience. The Foundation means a tremendous amount to him and is something that he is most proud of in his career.

Mission Statement
The mission of The Candies Foundation is to educate Americas youth about the devastating consequences of teen pregnancy through celebrity PSA campaigns and initiatives.

Celebrities that have participated in the campaigns include Beyonce, Ciara, Jenny McCarthy, Vanessa Minnillo, Ashley Tisdale, Hilary Duff, Ashlee Simpson, Usher, Rachel Bilson, Teddy Geiger amongst many others.

Celebrity Messages Include:

Be Sexy: It Doesnt Mean You Have to Have Sex
Be Smart: Dont Give Up Your Education
Be Smart: You Are Too Young to Start
Not Really the Way You Pictured Your First Crib
Not What You Had in Mind for Your First Set of Wheels
You Think Being in School Sucks

PSA Campaign Appearance:

Print: All the major teen magazines Seventeen, Vibe, The Source, Blender, Teen Vogue, Elle, InStyle, Cosmopolitan, etc.
Broadcast: All the major networks including ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, MTV, etc.
Online: AOL, MTV, The-N, Seventeen.com, Black Planet.com, and perezhilton.com.

The Event to Prevent

Each year The Candies Foundation hosts an annual fundraising event to honor individuals that have done exceptional work for the cause and helped advance the foundation message.

Past Honorees have included Senator Hilary Clinton, Katie Couric, Paula Zahn, Governor Thomas Keen, Jane Fonda, Kim Catrall, etc. Past Performers have included Jackson Browne, Jennifer Hudson, Lionel Richie, Teddy Geiger, Jewel, Ashlee Simpson, Destinys Child, etc.

2008 was a record year for the Foundation, The Event to Prevent raised close to $1.5 million dollars. In all, the Foundation has raised several million dollars. The monies raised at the Events enable the Foundation to continue its work to develop and produce powerful PSA campaigns and programs. :hi: :hi:
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 02:56 PM
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34. Thanks for the info, welcome to DU!
:hi:
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:39 PM
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47. But comb the website and you get a different picture.
Under "facts" and "info" there's NOTHING about actual contraception. Not a word.

So the same organization, The Candies Foundation, that supports this abstinence program also happens to fund some other GOOD works. But this abstinence program is unlikely to be one of them. Abstinence-only programs are ineffective compared to programs that provide actual contraception information.
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snowdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:16 PM
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11. I wish her well in being a spokesperson for Prevention.
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:22 PM
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13. Phil Spector to lead awareness campaign for Handgun Safety.......
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:27 PM
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16. Good for her.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:33 PM
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43. Except she's involved in an abstinence program that teaches nothing about
contraception -- at least I couldn't find any on their website. This kind of program isn't very effective at reducing teen pregnancy. It just teaches the same attitude she had when she got pregnant -- having sex as a teen is wrong. Girls with that attitude don't use contraception because that would be admitting that they INTENDED to have sex.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:28 PM
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17. Maybe she should graduate from high school first
What's wrong with those people?
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:29 PM
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18. "Whatever you do..."
"...don't engage in lovemaking, the expression and surrender of your being, becoming one with the person you love and sharing in the exquisite ecstasy of sex, just don't do it."
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:30 PM
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19. Here's the Foundation's Ad campaing...SERIOUSLY!


http://www.candiesfoundation.org/tshirts.html

That ought to get the Social Conservatives back in her corner...
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truthrocks Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:56 PM
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27. Talk about sending a mixed-message
"come here-go away" ... "PT" - Yikes!

:evilgrin: O8) :evilgrin: O8) :evilgrin: O8) :evilgrin: O8) :evilgrin:
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 03:36 PM
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37. Back in the day there was a 10 letter word for that kind of message....
Started with a C and had a T in there, too.

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:33 PM
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20. I won't knock Bristol, she is just an 18 year old kid. I do wonder if her mother put her up to it
though. And I remember her saying in an interview that just promoting abstinence is not realistic for most teens.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:35 PM
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45. I bet she probably IS being forced into it. Her mother pays the bills,
she dictates the terms.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:53 AM
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84. If you heard her "interview" on Good Morning America, you'd be convinced.
Sounded scripted from the word go. Even her body language was fake. The questions were open-ended, yet she gave one-sentence, stock answers.

It was embarrassing to watch, and totally undermined the "cause" she is backing.
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anachro1 Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:35 PM
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21. Seeing how these are republicans
I can totally understand them wanting to smash their genitals with bricks. In fact, it should be the law.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:38 PM
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22. David Hasselhoff promotes abstinence from alcohol..
:eyes:

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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:45 PM
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25. Michael Vick to be PETA spokesman
oh wait, that one's real. :crazy:
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:46 PM
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26. And in other news, somebody left the barn door open.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 01:56 PM
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28. LMAO! n/t
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 02:13 PM
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29. Is she going to be promoting abstinence? I mean, it worked so well for HER......
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:33 PM
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44. From the website, it appears to be all abstinence, no contraception. n/t
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 02:15 PM
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30. It will be interesting to learn how much her life has been affected by those 'consequences'. Most
unmarried teenage mothers don't have 'hired help' to assist in caring for the child. Most don't have parents who provide everything needed so that the girl can continue on with her schooling.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 02:21 PM
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31. Good for her?
And it's egg on her mother's face too.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:36 PM
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46. Not really -- if you look at the website, it's just about abstinence.
Nothing about contraception.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 07:11 PM
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51. Oh. Never mind then. She obviously hasn't learned anything.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:23 PM
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40. Ah yes, palin's daughter, front and center,
poster child for abstinence.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:25 PM
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41. So is little Piper going to have to ditch school to stay home and take care of the baby?
Poor kid.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:41 PM
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48. Wow Tripp is going to love hearing about this in 10 years or so
Your mother is publicly labeling you as a mistake
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 06:50 PM
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50. Now that she hates Levi she's changed her tune...
how conveeeeeeeenient!
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 09:07 PM
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52. Stay in that spotlight Bristol! That's my girl!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-05-09 09:14 PM
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53. Better late than never.
Levi is utterly worthy of scorn.

Sarah has proven to be an opportunistic ditz. Pro-life and yet she talks about the "burden" of her child; the one with the developmental disability. Not just a ditz. She's worthy of scorn too.



As a single mother, there are challenges and difficulties. Real ones. I applaud Bristol in trying to inject some common sense by speaking out, and hoping her words will reach others around her age.

Bristol is lucky; she could have caught a disease she'd be stuck with the rest of her life, or worse, to go along with the child.

People claim to be compassionate. What Bristol is doing damn well falls into that category too. She has *been there* and *done that*. That gives her credibility, even if she's learning the hard way. :(



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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 07:52 AM
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59. Teen pregnancy made Bristol famous...
what a great message for all the kids out there!

Oh waitaminute...

:shrug:
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 07:56 AM
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60. Keeping "even one" teen from getting pregnant is a very low standard
for judging one's own accomplishments. What if a teacher said, "If even one of my students learns to read..." or a doctor said, "If just one of my patients feels better..."? That whole "even one" meme rubs me the wrong way and in a big way. :thumbsdown:
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 08:20 AM
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62. "Yes kids, Just Say No to sex. Because you can DO that. Really"
:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

Like sitting on Old Faithful hoping you'll be the one to block it . . . hormones are hard-wired into every human being, and no amount of pretending it ain't so will change that.
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:18 AM
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68. Bristol Palin says Abstinence Best Path for Teens
Source: Newsday

Unwed mother Bristol Palin says abstinence is a realistic way for teens to avoid unwanted pregnancy and says if she could do it all over again, she would've waited to have sex.

The 19-year-old daughter of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is in New York Wednesday to help promote National Teen Pregnancy Awareness Day.

Palin told ABC's "Good Morning America" that abstinence is the safest and best choice for teens.


Read more: http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/ny-uspali0507...





So, like its OK for me to have sex but you can't. Also, abstinence obviously did not work for me, but it totally should for you. What a dumb ditz, just like her mother.

Instead of teaching kids safe, responsible, protected sex, these idiots want them to just not do it.
Its these freaking whacko's kids are the one who get the unwanted pregnenacies, get abortions, or worse just abandon them.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:18 AM
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69. A smart person learns from their mistake
A wise person learns from the mistakes of others

A republican never learns from any mistake
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flakey_foont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:18 AM
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70. and she should know, right?
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:18 AM
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71. yeah, that option really worked for her, didn't it? n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:18 AM
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72. Hopefully, there aren't too many teens who are stupid enough to listen to her.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:18 AM
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73. Yea, It worked so well for her.
You reap what you sow
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:18 AM
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74. The Palins cannot seem to do anything right.
Personally or professionally.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:18 AM
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75. Teens, including Republican family teens, are having sex as we post in DU
It is a fact that teens will have sex. It is a fact that if they don't take the proper precautions, they will end up either pregnant or with a sexually transmitted disease. The talk of abstinence is just that, empty talk.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:18 AM
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76. It reminds me of Graham Kerr's
Pineapple Upside-down Cake.

"Now underneath all that, you put the pineapple!"

Even if she had gotten married she would have had some credibility with that statement. The First Dude could have painted his shotgun white for the occasion.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:18 AM
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77. I wish this family would just go away
None of them have anything important or interesting to say. They are a joke. A made for tv sitcom in the waiting.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:18 AM
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78. Too soon old; too late smart.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:18 AM
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79. Bristol wants to keep a roof over her and her son's head
Go along to get along, especially when you have a very vindictive, ambitious mother who cars only for herself.
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:18 AM
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80. Yep. Three months ago Bristol said abstinence is "not realistic at all."
Ew why do I even know this stuff.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:31 AM
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81. That was my first thought: Bristol's mom probably took the time to 'splain getting kicked out...
I think the reality for now is that Bristol's job (paid for with room, board, and medical insurance) is to do whatever Mom tells her to. And all Mom wants to do is further her personal ambitions.

Way to twist your kid into knots, Sarah.

I caught way too much of that interview on ABC this morning -- I tuned in to my local station to get the fire news, and there was poor Bristol talking about being a "teen ambassador for abstinence," gods help her.

Hekate


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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:44 AM
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83. Haven't had news on. Fires again in your area? Damn
Take care, Californians. :cry:
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 12:51 PM
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85. A fire started yesterday afternoon not too far from the area of one of our most recent ones
This is the third in our immediate area in the past 12 months, and being called the Jesusita Fire, probably after the Jesusita Trail up there in the hills. The Governator was being accurate last year when he said that there is no longer a "fire season" because at this point it's a year-round condition.

The drought continues, and yesterday we had a hot wind -- perfect conditions for "human accident" or arson, take your pick. It didn't spread as much as we thought it did, though, and that's the good news. It's still uncontained, and that's the bad news.

The kittens and I are inside with the windows shut, avoiding the smoke that will blow our way when the wind shifts. These days it gives me asthma. Zola, one of the kittens, was just on my lap helping me type. Now she's poking Betsy, my elderly little dog, who is napping.

My daughter and her husband just got dibs on a lease-option-to-buy house in the neighborhood of the Jesusita Fire -- they're supposed to start moving next week. I phoned her and she was philosophical: If it's gotta burn, please do it now. Of course the whole region is hoping no houses burn at all, but it is a densely populated area.

The Earl Warren Showgrounds in Santa Barbara is always the staging area for local disasters, especially fires, and as we drove home last night around 9 pm we could see it was packed with fire trucks from around the region showing up for mutual aid. It always makes me feel good to see them there and how well-coordinated they are.

Thanks for your good wishes -- you take care, too. :hi:

Hekate



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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 11:34 AM
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82. My only regret;
From my teen years is that I did not screw more! I encouraged (As only an absent father might) my children's involvement with at first awkward sexual advances towards their peers turn into rounded human beings whose outlook and drives are not mostly sexual but only a part of their adulthood (They are all into their 20's now). Sex is the driving force for life on this planet. Why shunt it in humans just because some dusty books say some invisible being wants you to?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 01:32 PM
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86. Do as I say...Not as I
do. And, what does that say for the baby she bore? Hmmmm? How would you like it if you grew up and found out your mother went around peddling "abstinence" after you were born?
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 03:53 PM
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88. From a scientific standpoint, abstinence is simply the religious right's way of making more sheeple.
It's quite elegant, if you think about it. They breed ignorance, fool parents and kids into believing that abstinence is the answer, and "POP!", out comes another one! More bounty in the collection plate, more sheeple to build their ginormous churches.

To the religious right, a vagina is nothing more than a clown car to provide them fodder.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-06-09 07:47 PM
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89. Hmmm...so the organization promotes abstinence, yet they use ads like this:
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