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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:21 PM Original message |
No murder conviction in Mexican immigrant's beating death |
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MikeNearMcChord (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. America again shows her enlightenment to the world. |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
2. Bzzzzzzzztttt. WRONG!!!! |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Like in the case of Emmett Till the jury just forgot to say |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
31. This verdict is unbelievable. Just unbelievable. A sad day in America. nt |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Not really.... |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. So the vic was a criminal, too? Hmmm. If I were on the jury, that wouldn't have mattered... |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. It would make me apathetic... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. The girl was with him, so she was a witness, on the night he |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. So in your mind, |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. So being a pedophile is |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Yes, I'd call that a prick. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. 15? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 01:19 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Not quite human? What does that make you, the creator? |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 07:21 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. That's karma for ya. nt |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
70. A fight? That's overly simple. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Nope... |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Your so-called facts are selective |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Haha... |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 01:50 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. On the stand - |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
3. I knew this was going to happen |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. My home town ............. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Link for the sister and other girl's pregnancies. Thanks. |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. classic defense of a criminal, dehumanize the victim n/t |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 09:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Nothing like a prosecutor believing in the prosecution... |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Strangely enough, it's a very red area - |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I can see Roger Laguna Colin's attorney struggling to answer questions about hate |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 10:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. That woman asked an inane question, |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. But hasn't the jury pool become tainted by this? |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 10:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. And yet, to my surprise and delight, |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Maybe there's hope for Texas... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Pennsylvania's going for Obama does not mean that this area went for Obama. |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
6. Sad, very sad. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
8. Post racial? Not really. n/t |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
16. A minor correction- the article said that one of the defendants was hispanic |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Brandon Piekarsky and Derrick Donchak ? can you tell which one of them is hispanic? |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-19-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
80. Sorry, that was from one of the links |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
17. How horrible. |
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bc3000 (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
18. I find it hard to have sympathy for the victim |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I just wonder why the Jena Six where convicted for a street fight out of control |
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bc3000 (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. The Jena 6 were convicted because of racism imo |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. He was killed because he was a Mexican dating a white girl |
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bc3000 (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 12:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I never said he was killed for being a pedophile. |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Emmett Till's father was executed for raping women |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. But in this case... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #39 |
53. Very relevant--if the murder victim had been on trial for statutory rape. However, |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 08:50 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. There was only one killer and he's serving 9 years.. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:22 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Feel better now? BTW, nothing in post 49 changes anything I've posted to you in terms of the law, |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:32 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Try post 57. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I wrote post 57, so I agree with everything in it. Thanks. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:49 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Haha, meant 60. nt |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:59 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. I prefer 57, 63 and 65, to which I refer you, especially 65. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. That can't be. Those posts are terrible. |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Court documents give this account of the July 12 fatal beating of Luis Ramirez |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. younger than 16 can marriage in Pennsylvania |
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bc3000 (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. What do marriage laws have to do with it? |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. In Pennsylvania anyone can have sex with a minor as long as they are marriage |
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bc3000 (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. the statutory rape had nothing to do with the murder |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #30 |
74. There is no evidence of that. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. the victim had no right to attack the teens for a slur, but they had a right to beat him to death? |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. No... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 07:46 AM Response to Reply #35 |
48. Fortunately, whether you shed tears or not is not the point of the law. Nor was the murder victim |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 08:01 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I said they should be convicted of manslaughter... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 08:08 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. As I said, consistent, if nothing else. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 08:08 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Oookay. nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 01:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
45. Bull. He was walking home when he was attacked. And you're justifying a hate crime. n/t |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 07:22 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Actually.... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 08:50 AM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Very clear--and totally Irrelevant. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 08:52 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Not in the least... |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. In referring to a trial, I used the term "irrelevant" to mean legally irrelevant. Legally, the |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. But it WAS relevant... |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #47 |
73. Wrong |
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Alameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
78. Ummm......and you know that how? |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 08:00 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. It was more or less one of those testosterone-laden, idiotic street fights. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #49 |
57. As I posted upthread, I don't know how I feel about hate crime legislation. However, |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. No, people are not allowed to beat others to death unless their own lives are at stake. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. I disagreed with one of your comments. That does not equate to my |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. I didn't mean you in particular. You as in everybody. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Maybe you need to stop reading things into my posts. Try sticking to what they actually say. And, |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-05-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #67 |
76. You engaged me in conversation, not the reverse. |
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Alameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #67 |
79. I have a half sister that lives in the next town.... |
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