Focus on the Family narrator arrested for luring teenage girl for sex on Net

[No Passaran]

Source: Colorado Independent

A Colorado Springs man who narrates the Bible in Spanish on CDs and works in the Spanish broadcasting department of Focus on the Family appeared in court Monday in Golden on two felony counts of using the Internet to lure a 15-year-old girl for sex, The Denver Post reports.

Read more: http://coloradoindependent.com/25840/focus-on-the-family-narrator-charged-with-luring-teenage-girl-for-sex-on-net

[izquierdista]

1. I guess he was too focused on the family

The adolescent part of it. :rofl: :rofl:

[bertman]

4. Too funny, izqierdista!

If it hadn't been the internetz, Mr. Family Focus Narrator would have been able to use his best Ricardo Montalbalm voice to WOO the young chickies into his cozy family-style love nest.

Praise the Lawd!!!

[louis-t]

73. Unfortunately, it's not very funny. Ironic. Typical.

Sad. Infuriating, maybe. But not funny.

[teknomanzer]

94. Hypocrisy is always funny...

More people should be laughing at these so called Christian moralists.

[louis-t]

107. My point was that not all of them are caught so easily.

They hurt a lot of kids.

[tomm2thumbs]

71. bwahahahah - that deserves a rim shot - 'badump-bump'

if guilt by association is their mantra for individuals in Acorn, this should be a no-brainer right back at'em

[knixphan]

78. lol

Had to chuckle.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

93. You magnificent bastard! nt

[SpiralHawk]

2. More tragic, pathetic republicon family values

Verily, I say unto thee, the republicon homelanders are the Latter Day Pharisees.

[liberal N proud]

3. He was focused on family things

It is always these family values who are the ones to worry about.

[TooRaLoo]

5. Another "Christian" nut-job pervert. nt

[Codeine]

6. Of course, there was no real fifteen year old girl involved.

The people that pose as these teens strike me as being almost as damaged as the people who do the luring.

[gabby garcia]

7. wtf?

"the people that pose as these teens" are undercover cops doing their job which is to round up the scumbags that would otherwise be luring the REAL 15 year old girls.

seriously.
:eyes:

[tomreedtoon]

9. Exactly, and I've gotten such posts.

I have run a few animation web sites. I often get e-mails from ostensible little kids that want to talk about their favorite cartoons. Mind you, my sites talked about cartoons from a critical viewpoint, and were not designed to attract children. But these were kids wanting to talk about cartoons.

I know that these were probably cops or volunteers looking for pedophiles. So, I answered the questions straight and honestly, asking the kids what kind of cartoons they like. They tell me. They never respond again.

I don't mind those e-mails. In fact, I'm glad there are people out there who are concerned about children's welfare. There weren't when I was a kid.

[Swagman]

20. not true

[Scairp]

55. The fuck it isn't

They are scum, they believe they are conversing with a child for the purpose of meeting him or her for sex, they deserve what they get.

[smalll]

35. The thing is, virtually no "REAL 15 year old girls" get successfully "lured" by adults --

I always suspected it, and a study came out not so long ago that found that actual kids/teens who were propositioned online by adults overwhelmingly cut off contact with the creepy adult. To a 15 year old, a 25 year old guy looks like a VERY old man, forget over 30!

These undercover cops are fighting crimes that don't really happen.

Ever had a car stolen? (Let alone a bike.) Or your house burglarized? It's generally understood that one files a report with the police and then nothing happens. Maybe if we took some police resources away from entrapping lonely men or from busting drug users, they could focus a little more on actually protecting our lives and our property.

[caseymoz]

51. Nevertheless, that's the teen avoiding the criminal . . .

That doesn't take away a criminal intent. Now, most of these guys must know that there are police fishing the Internet. Yet, they go ahead with this anyway. That doesn't say anything good about their impulse control, which might indicate what they are doing or have done off the Internet.

Overwhelmingly teens might say they'd run the other way, however, the pedophile could use deception, pretending to be a teen himself, at least at first. He could offer them drugs, if he finds out their interested in that-- hell, he could just offer to help a troubled teen, just out of kindness, you understand. The proposition wouldn't usually be an all-at-once thing. Predatory men will quickly learn that teens will usually run if they make the proposition sound like a proposition, or make it too blatantly too early. I'll conjecture that this is exactly what the decoy caught him doing. One thing is: they have a full transcript of what transpired, ready to be viewed by the court.

Moreover, just because the teen says they will run the other way doesn't mean that it's always that it works like that in the real world. People often act in ways they don't expect, especially teens, and especially concerning sex. Remember abstinence vows and balls? Statistics will tell you how effective those really are.

I would agree with you if instead of an adult and a minor it was sex solicited between consenting adults, that is adult prostitution. I think enforcement is better spent on other things. But pedophilia should be dealt with.

[lldu]

80. The cops are more twisted than the guys they Entrap N/T

[Leftist Agitator]

14. Um, it's called pedobaiting, and it provides a valuable service:

Getting these sick fucks off the street and into prison where they belong.

Here is a link to a website detailing the story of a scumbag who was pedobaited, and arrested, tried and convicted before he could harm a real child.

WARNING: VERY NOT SAFE FOR WORK, AND VERY GRAPHIC!!!

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Chris_Forcand

[Swagman]

21. so basicaly he was arrested for no crime at all-apart from being

an unatractive person. That site simply shows he's emails and replies to an adult..no child was involved. He was arrested for a "thought" crime. Doesn't matter whatever his sleazy sex talk was about.

These cops would be better off working out how we could avoid all those deaths in Africa. The 25000 children who die every day.

[Drunken Irishman]

26. So I take it you feel the SS shouldn't go after people who talk about killing Obama, right?

I mean, it's a thought and no crime was really committed, right? So if I post, in detail, what I plan on doing to the POTUS, in your eyes, no crime was committed until I actually go through with the killing?

Wow.

[Buenaventura]

38. the SS ... hmm ...

[Name removed]

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[Leftist Agitator]

31. Um, he THOUGHT THAT HE WAS TALKING TO A CHILD!!!

Had it been a real child, would you be so glib?

He thought that he was showing his genitals to a child. He thought that he was enticing a child to send him her soiled underwear. He was grooming a child to be receptive to his sick sexual advances.

Had it been an actual child, he would have raped her without a second thought, given the opportunity to do so.

So, if he had been talking to an actual child, that would still be OK with you? Or is that where he would have crossed your line?

[Number23]

32. Sweet Fancy Moses. I have never used Ignore. I don't even BELIEVE in the Ignore function

But if I did, your behind would be the first one I put on it.

[pnorman]

40. Here's the arresting officer's report:

http://coloradoindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ovalle_affidavit.pdf

That guy went waaaaay beyond just entertaining sexual fantasies. He was fully prepared to inflict serious psychological/emotional damage on a girl he believed to be 15, an age regarded by most to be NOT prepared to deal with that!

There's an awful lot of unacceptable entrapment employed in such activity, but I have no problem with this one.

pnorman

[caseymoz]

54. Thank you, for putting that up.

I don't think a few people imagine just what police often find in these cases.

[BrightKnight]

83. He went way over the line at every turn. - n/t

[caseymoz]

53. By that reasoning, if a perp hires an undercover cop to murder somebody . . .

. . . but the cop wasn't really hit man, then the perp should get off because there was no real hit man there? Interesting defense, but I expect it to sink like a rock in court, and it should-- in both cases. This is hardly thought-crime. What you have with the FoF guy here is proof of criminal intent, meaning that it was proved the person was looking for a way to commit a crime. It means he was caught red-handed, and allegedly, there is no doubt of what he was trying to do. I mean with a complete transcripts, that can be determined pretty easily. The guy was allegedly going ahead and meeting her with the stated intent of having sex. That isn't "though-crime" if he showed up. If he didn't show up, then there wouldn't be a crime. They might have charged him with lewd conduct, but he would likely have beaten any rap for even a misdemeanor if he didn't show up, because then it would have been "thought-crime."

You present a false dilemma: that the police could either create decoys for pedophiles, or we could save children from dying in Africa. There's a such thing as division of labor, and I doubt that law enforcement has the training for humanitarian relief. I don't care what you say, finding pedophiles is an important thing.

In the case he presented, Chris, what's his name, the man clearly had the exact intent to have sex with a minor. If there was no real minor involved, well, it's like having your hand in cookie jar when it turned out it was empty, or in this case, when it had a rat-trap in it.

I choose to believe your argument is just stupid, and that you haven't thought for a second about what you are saying. That's the best explanation I could come up with. Moral degeneracy is worse.

[Buenaventura]

15. entrapment scum are just as bad, and perhaps a greater threat to us all

[noiretextatique]

18. only people who want to screw children

are worried about being entraped.

[Swagman]

22. oh yes .."if you are doing no wrong ,,nothing to fear.." nice one

you said the operative word .."want". There is big difference between wanting and doing.

[noiretextatique]

69. wanting to screw children vs. actually screwing children

yes, there is a BIG difference. in this case, the asshole was arrested before he had the chance to act on his desire. :nopity:

[walldude]

92. You act like the guy didn't make a date and show up for it...

It was a thought crime... right up till he left his home and went to meet the girl. Not only is he a pedophile but he's a fucking moron as well. And you're defending him. :rofl:

[noiretextatique]

98. ergo

one moran defending another :nopity:

[Buenaventura]

25. "entrapped" - i worry about spelling, too.

[noiretextatique]

70. i am more concerned about sexual predators

and the people who support them.

[lldu]

81. There need to be extremely stringent rules for the Sexual Predator predators!

When they single out someone and then hit on him and hit on him until he replies, sounds like to me they have become the predators.

BAD COPS!

[RedCloud]

76. I differ on police posing as hookers to entrap...

If some loser guy, not on the prowl, gets enticed by an attractive police officer who then initiates all the advances and propositions him while on the taxpayer dime, SHE is guilty! The police in this case should just do their job, not try to create crimes. We have enough crimes as is.

As far as the Internet police go, I feel the youngsters need protection from sexual predators.

[Drunken Irishman]

27. Yes.

We shouldn't try and stop pedophiles until they actually rape little girls and boys.

:eyes:

[roguevalley]

16. I read remarks like this and I am amazed. People exercise free

will on the internet and everywhere else. They don't have to respond. they do so because they believe they are going to score a child. Being upset about the people who go after them amazes me. it seems odd to be outraged at grabbing predators. I cannot see how anyone can be. IMHO.

[Doremus]

19. In general I feel no sympathy either. BUT

that horrible show that Chris Pretty Boy Somebody or Other does that features the pedos being lured into the houses ... every now and then a young man in his early 20s will get sucked in. Clearly not pedos, just socially awkward and waaaay too naive.

Those are the ones I cry for. :cry:

[gabby garcia]

62. "cry for"???

what - you think pedophiles don't start being pedophiles until they're in their 30's or 40's or something?
pedophiles are still pedophiles even when they are in their teens. they just don't usually get caught until they're older.

[Doremus]

104. Oh stop with the melodrama.

I doubt you have any idea what you're talking about. First of all, the show I referenced is produced for the purpose of ratings, i.e. sensationalism, titilation and scandal. The methods employed to achieve those ends are borderline legal: The "poor, preyed-upon victim" (who doesn't exist by the way) is the aggressive pursuer, relentlessly texting every man in the room with teasing come-ons until someone bites. Often the "poor, innocent victim" has to practically beg the shmuck to come over.

As I said, I have no sympathy for most of the pukes that show up. Once in a while, though, they'll snag a kid in his early 20s who is invariably rather shy and geekish and probably never had the nerve to ask a girl on a date in his life. They are to pedophilia what bicycles are to fish, to paraphrase an old T-shirt I had once.

Thanks to the M$M's lust for profits -- and our thirst for scandal-- they'll never have a normal life again. Obviously you couldn't care less that innocents are ensnared in a dirty process as long as we're dedicated to the lofty goal of "keeping the children safe," but I do.

[Swagman]

23. and if you can't see the dangers in entrapment then that's sad.

but hey.. say "think of the little children" and you can get away with anything.

[roguevalley]

29. its not entrapment. don't open the damned email, go to the forum

and pretend to be a kid, etc. free will. you are the sad one. kids getting hurt seems left out of these arguments. apparently some sad notion that a dipshit going online and pretending to be fourteen to get sex is somehow entrapment when they get caught. free will. consequences.

[Drunken Irishman]

42. Don't you get it?

We shouldn't try and thwart a crime. That isn't our right and doing so infringes on their rights to prey on children!

I mean, if you see a guy walking down the street with a gun saying he's going to shoot up the library, it ain't like you're going to run to the first police officer you see, right? You'll maybe follow him and then wait for him to open fire, hopefully killing a few people (then a crime will actually be committed) and then run and tell the police.

Right?

Right?

[redqueen]

68. Thanks for illustrating the idioicy of that mindset / rationalization. (nt)

[Drunken Irishman]

41. Yeah!

We need to let these sick fucks molest the children, who cares if we can stop them before they actually do it!

[JerseygirlCT]

105. I know. I'm astounded and sort of sickened to see this here. nt

[caseymoz]

39. No, they are just doing a very important job fishing for pedophiles

What's amazing is how these guys can't help themselves. You'd think they'd be at least cautious.

[sarcasmo]

8. More religious hypocrisy.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

10. the religious part often covers the creepy part to their lives

[pleah]

11. To jail with thee hypocrite.

It just never stops with these pervs.

[msongs]

12. does the bible (which one, so many versions) specificy age of consent? nt

[Swagman]

24. this man wouldn;t have been arrested in Germany, Spain , Italy

or a host of other countries. Tell me again why he is a predator (and a pretor sordid bloke) in some countries but not others.

[mbperrin]

48. Umm...because different countries have different laws?

Assuming your statement is correct, which I have no reason to believe one way or another.

By this reasoning, since none of the Bush cabal are being tried for war crimes here, neither should they be anywhere else, yes?

[bemildred]

13. What is with all these sex-crazed teenagers anyway? nt

[fascisthunter]

17. I Have a Theory about some Extremists

they tend to project their paranoia and fear, because they think people around them think of the same crap as they do all the time, and the reason people don't is due to willpower. We all assume we share many things in common, sometimes we do so in order to feel "normal"... these people go to extreme lengths to hide their true selves and grasp onto religious extremism because it helps them stay inline.... what they don't realize, is most people are very different from them, in that they don't need a church to them the difference between good and bad. People just know... these folks don't and need strict guidelines to live by.

This guy could have been attracted to the position he had just to get closer to those who were innocent, naive and trusting.

[gabby garcia]

63. very true.

many pedophiles are drawn to careers or positions where they can be close on a daily basis to their objects of interest.

a few years ago, the fellow who volunteered every year to be the Santa (you know - have your kids sit in his lap and tell him what they want for Christmas) at my sister's local small town church was arrested and found to be a repeat sex offender/pedophile.

shudder.

[and-justice-for-all]

28. This bastard to the bait and some want to yell 'entrapment'?

Really?? I wonder what this fucker HAS gotten away with if he is 'using the Internet to lure a 15-year-old girl for sex'. He is probably a pedophile who finally got caught. Focus on the Family is a fuckin' sick joke.

[Buenaventura]

37. i agree - in fact, i believe that Focus on the

Family is far worse than a joke and that it should be taken much more seriously. the FotF folks have spent countless dollars to destroy democracy, buying local and state elections ... all that. DU knows it all too well.

Entrapment - inviting, even encouraging people to commit crimes, is a tactic worthy of the FotF folks. Popularized by Stalin and Franco ... something to avoid.

[Lars39]

43. Did you even read the arresting report?

The guy was very explicit in what he wanted from a 15 yo he went to meet. He was convinced he was meeting a 15 yo. That is hardly entrapment.

[Buenaventura]

44. ahh - mia maxima culpa. the end justifies the means.

for fools.

[Lars39]

45. So would you still consider it entrapment if the female was actually 15?

[Buenaventura]

49. "she" was not 15, and it was entrapment. why are you so

desperate to defend it?

i'm sorta done with this thread ... tired of talkin' to folks who'd be more at home on freerepublic. jesus f*cking christ. at least i won't run into 'em at an ACLU meeting!

[Lars39]

50. You're ducking out on my question.

[sabrina 1]

72. For what it's worth, I agree with you.

If this guy was a suspect then there ought to have been some legitimate way to catch him other than this. If it's just a broad net being cast to entice people who do have problems, but may never have acted on them, then, imo it is wrong and he may very well get off. Planting thoughts of or encouraging someone to commit a crime IS a crime. I don't understand why people are supportive of this kind of tactic by the police. It can be abused in so many ways.

[nonconformist]

79. "some legitimate way to catch him"?

You mean, wait until he's actually raping a child and then bust through the door?

Jah, that would have been better... :crazy:

[sabrina 1]

90. I don't think I said that at all, maybe someone else did?

I said 'if he was a suspect'. I'm assuming we haven't come to the point of arresting everyone just because they might one day 'rape a child' or commit some other crime. By that rationale, everyone belongs in jail, don't they?

Having said that, I have read the report on what actually happened and in this case, it doesn't seem that he was entrapped, as it was he who approached the undercover cop posting as a 15 year-old. They did not approach him. Policing areas where there are high probabilities of crimes taking place, on or off-line, is not entrapment imo.

Real entrapment, where cops put the idea for a crime in someone's mind who otherwise would not have thought of it, is wrong however, and cases have been lost as a result of the use of that kind of tactic.

In this case, it wasn't necessary to put the thought in this guy's head. Nor did he need to be approached and/or coerced in any way. That is not entrapment imo.

[noiretextatique]

99. he was arrested for attempting to meet what he thought was a 15 yo girl

perhaps he just wanted to have tea and cookies with her :sh

[and-justice-for-all]

106. A) people should not be soliciting for sex with kids...

and B) He has for sure done this before since he fell for this bait.

He is a sick fuck and I am glad the bastard got caught the way he did.

[Boomerang Diddle]

33. Why am I NOT surprised? n/t

[Tangerine LaBamba]

34. I rejoice in the outing of the hypocrisy,

yes, I do.

But, at the same time, an adult posing as a child for the sole purpose of luring another adult into a situation that will result in the arrest of the second adult troubles me.

The second adult - as much as I abhor his politics - committed no crime. Last time I practiced law, being a creep wasn't illegal.

Like the conspiracy laws, which troubled the law professor who taught us about them all those years ago, these acts and laws punish thoughts and ideas. No acts accompany them, and, while we are celebrating this bust, consider how easily this procedure could be turned against people who hold, let's say, very liberal political views.

It's very troubling. Note that the show that NBC touted about this sort of stuff, "To Catch A Predator," is no longer on. I always wondered which predator the title referred to.

[truthisfreedom]

36. Looks like he had his focus on somebody else's family...

Don't these guys read the papers, internet, or watch the news?

ALL underage girls in chat rooms are undercover cops!

[GoddessOfGuinness]

46. Who Would Jesus Shag?

:eyes:

[JI7]

47. most of these "focus on family" ,christian coalition etc types are made up of sexual perverts

and sex addicts.

[dysfunctional press]

52. probably not a good career move on his part.

[pnorman]

56. Rather than responding to specific postings on this thread, I'll post the Wiki on Entrapment.

Here it is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment

Like most here, the term "Entrapment" has very negative connotations to me, and I subject such instances to very critical scrutiny. "Crimes" committed by Consenting Adults (eg: Larry Craig) would fit into that category, and a 17 year old girl might be borderline. But a "girl who is self-described as 15"?

Elsewhere on this thread, it was stated that the number of "real girls" who respond to such enticements is (statistically) zero. If so, I'd be opposed to such entrapments, but I'd need to see a report that makes a VERY compelling case first!

pnorman
Edited to correct that "statistically" typo!

[Kablooie]

57. Christianity is a magnet for the morally corrupt.

As is the GOP.

[timtom]

59. Undoubtedly the stupidest non-sequitur in this thread!

[Kablooie]

65. Undoubtedly.

[Optical.Catalyst]

58. Typical right wing religious fundamentalist values at work. (again) n/t

[Enthusiast]

60. I do wish law enforcement would

be as vigilant in their pursuit of malfeasance in the financial and banking sector.

[Swede Atlanta]

61. Real family values.............

Let's see....an adult man lures an underage child age 15 (whether the person was really a child or not) for intimate physical contact is okay in their book but intimate contact and relationships between two consenting same-sex adults is not. Let's see who is really sick.

[TEmperorHasNoClothes]

64. homophobes need to focus on their behavior, not anyone else's

[Soylent Brice]

66. if you're shocked raise your hand...

no one... that's what i figured.

[Zambero]

67. FOTF? Then as long as it wasn't GAY sex, it was OK

provided that there was no intent to use contraceptives from Planned Parenthood in the commission of this incident.

:sarcasm:

[D23MIURG23]

74. Thats one way to focus on a family.

I wonder if that is what his hole-ness the Reverend Dobson had in mind.

[RedCloud]

75. pero la quinceañera es el debut de la mujer!

Little wonder the guy was stalking 15 year olds. I think it is time to update that 15 year old tradition.

What do you think? Is a 15 year old female now ready to be a woman in today's world? Not talking 500 years ago.

[Haole Girl]

77. This does not surprise me one bit. (nt)

[Echo In Light]

82. It's amazing the frequency these "family values" snake oil salesmen get busted w/this type of thing

[Initech]

86. Like Bill Hicks said - anyone that far to the right is hiding a deep dark secret.

[Echo In Light]

88. Seems to be what specifically attracts them to the Right's "family" rhetoric/cover

Too bad more people are apparently unable to figure that the fuck out...

[penndragon69]

84. I just love those Family values !!

[Initech]

85. Oh wont somebody puh-lease think of the children????

[formercia]

87. A hard day at the orifice. n/t.

[LiberalLovinLug]

89. Legitamizing Entrapment is dangerous

I also have grave reservations about the use of the police to 'create' a crime.
To respond to a couple of posts here that suggested other scenarios to prove the worth of entrapment:

Drunken Irishman: "So I take it you feel the SS shouldn't go after people who talk about killing Obama, right?"

No they shouldn't simply for someone saying it. I don't know how many times I've thought I wished W was dead in the last eight years, and have even vocalized it. But it IS a crime to actually send a threatening letter to the POTUS. So in that case a crime has already taken place. Of course he should be investigated.

caseymoz: "By that reasoning, if a perp hires an undercover cop to murder somebody . . . but the cop wasn't really hit man, then the perp should get off because there was no real hit man there?"

The act of hiring someone to kill someone else IS A CRIME in itself. Saying how much you hate someone and you wish you could hire someone to off him is not.

I think we need to separate ourselves emotionally from the facts. Seriously how many 15 year old girls do you know who would be sexually attracted to an old (by their standards) and anonymous guy on the internet. Add on to that all the warnings and awareness of this out there. As was stated above, studies show its pretty well zero. It think it in some ways tarnishes all girls of a generation growing up who use the internet by giving a false impression that a significant percent of them are stupid and promiscuous enough to fall for anything or anyone.

So the real issue is not protecting young girls, and boys too, it becomes; lets get these old lonely creeps in jail for actually thinking they had a chance with (in their minds) a sexually open minded young person. He obviously puts his immediate and twisted sexual needs ahead of any empathy or concerns for the healthy emotional development of the 'girl'. I'd rather not have him walking the same streets as me as well, but thats not enough. He is sick and should get help.

I think it is a slippery slope. Once entrapment is justified as a legitimate means to fill our jails even further, what other writings, even on discussion boards like this, will be considered punishable thought crimes.

[dustbunnie]

95. Lots of teenage girls would giggle and titter, and seriously diss some disgusting lech -

who was making sexual offers over the net... when they're in group clusters of course. The lonely teen who has no one looking out for her might be a different story, especially if some older dude told her how beautiful she was, and spoke to her "soul." Teens seem to be more worldly, but really, how worldly are they when they're dumb enough to send naked pics of themselves to other teens with their cell phones. Teens can be quite stupid and impulsive.

You've mentioned thought crime, and of course, any 40-year-old can get into some teen chat room and spout his "horny" musings ad nauseum. Any wise, sick dude would leave it at that. But once he gets into his car and actually goes to meet an underage teen for sex, that's no longer in the realm of "thought." You can talk about drugs all you want to like-minded people on some message board, but once you actually score some, you've committed a crime.

[noiretextatique]

100. it's only a slippery slope if you are soliciting children for sex

if you aren't, then you shouldn't have any problems.

[ardvark]

91. his focus is a little too narrow

and perhaps a little too youth oriented

[Politicub]

96. That whole organization is rotten to the core

The whole lot of them needs to be investigated post haste.

[BobTheSubgenius]

97. Back when Dennis Miller was funny, he had a thought for pedophiles I think was pretty apt.

"Time to lean out over the plate and take one for the team."

[livefreest]

101. boy, those conservatives. they just don't quit being funny

[Arugula Latte]

102. Well, quelle surprise.

[cpompilo]

103. Brought to you by F**kus on the Family...

that bastion of family values.