Ex-Official: Bush Panicked After 9/11 (and tortured prisoners)
Source: CBS New/AP
Former State Dept. Lawyer Describes Bush Administration's Gimto Interrogations As Torture
(CBS/AP) A former State Department lawyer tells The Associated Press that the Bush administration panicked after 9/11 and tortured prisoners.
Former President George W. Bush denied anyone was tortured. But Vijay Padmanabhan is at least the second insider to publicly describe as torture the so-called "enhanced interrogation techniques" used by the U.S.
Padmanabhan was the department's chief counsel on Guantanamo litigation. He says it was "foolish" for the Bush administration to declare that detainees were beyond the reach of U.S. and international laws and the Geneva Conventions.
He told the AP Friday that "Guantanamo was one of the worst overreactions of the Bush administration."
2. They slapped Gitmo up in 86 hours. The legal "justification" was passed over by the Dems and media
To say that Gitmo wasn't US territory (and therefore laws didn't apply to it) runs directly in the face of our longstanding position that embassies and military bases are a part of the US. McCain was born on a Naval facility in Panama (we think) making him eligible to have been President. The outcry over embassy bombings and attacks against US Military personnel in Germany were clear illustrations of this.
Who realizes they are out of control, panics and tries to park, hitting someone on the sidewalk.
Would it be fair to charge them? Yes.
The point is that panic or blowing it matters not. The motivation leading to war crimes are not an element of the crime. The law (US statutes, the Geneva treaties and the Nuremberg precedent) are all quite clear, and were all quite clearly broken. In the US statute, it is a capital offense if torture leads to death and there were many body bags coming out of the torture mills.
16. CBS Snooze and the Associated Pukes are aiding and abetting the cover story
that "Bush panicked." That is ridiculous. The torture went on for SEVEN YEARS. It was methodical, and completely thought out, including arranging for Yoo's memos to try to cover their war criminal asses. The only thing we don't yet know is what it was really all about.
Seeking out and torturing/killing people to erase all traces of Bush Junta connection to 9/11, or other huge crimes, such as weapons trafficking. It recently came out that Cheney had a hit squad going into countries and targeting individuals and killing them. They likely had a torture squad as well, targeting people to be kidnapped who had info they wanted for coverups of their crimes, or for business purposes, and these were flown to Guantanamo Bay or to torture dungeons around the world, and there were probably many murders after they were through with their victims.
The random roundup of innocents was cover for this activity. They picked up youngsters. They picked up soldiers who had a gun in their hand, merely thinking to protect their country from foreign invasion. They paid warlords and others for "enemy combatants"--who were no such thing. They arrested, jailed and tortured people for stealing bread, or for doing nothing at all. This seemingly insane, pointless and extremely counter-productive policy begins to make sense when you look at it as cover for the targeted tortures. If the targeted tortures were conducted "to keep us safe," why was all this cover needed--all these senseless arrests and ruinations of innocent lives?
I don't believe that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld & brethren did anything with the motive of "keeping us safe." So what was their motive? It certainly was NOT "Bush panicking." That would be laughable, if the subject were not so....utterly horrible.
30. If I "panic" and systematically plan and carry out murder of a neighbor's family because
someone violently entered my home and killed somebody, what will happen to me? But, but, your honor, I "panicked."
what kind of "leader" "panics" anyway? Is "panic" now the new excuse for anything goes? what a load of bullshit. But of course the ignorant third will lap it up to justify their love of someone as mean, stupid, incompetent, dishonest, ignorant, and sadistic as themselves.
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