CA: Four police officers shot in Oakland

[The abyss]

Source: sfgate.com

(03-21) 16:09 PDT OAKLAND -- Four Oakland police officers were shot and seriously wounded this afternoon after a car stop went bad, police sources reported.

Two of the officers were gunned down outside their patrol car after they pulled over a car in the 7600 block of MacArthur Boulevard, not far from the Eastmont Town Center. Another officer reported was shot while in pursuit of the suspect. It was not clear where the fourth officer was shot. A suspect was later reported to also have been shot.

The condition of the officers was not immediately available, but the Alameda County coroner was called to Oakland's Highland Hospital in response to the shooting.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/0...

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Cross post from GD. Why nothing in LBN?
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[CreekDog]

1. awful

that's a bad part of Oakland. sheesh.

my friends live up on the hill and they say they hear more gunshots than they've ever heard in the 8 years they've been there.

[LooseWilly]

234. Up on the hill all the way up to where 73rd turns into Edwards?...

I mean, I drove a cab in Oakland for 10 years... and now I'm Oakland geography neurotic...

And yeah, it's a bad part... what wasn't mentioned is that one of the biggest police substations in the City is in the Eastmont Mall. Which is 1 block and change from the 7400 block of MacArthur, and 3 blocks and change from the 7600 block of MacArthur (I've heard both as locations for this)... and with this confusion, I'm assuming the traffic stop in question had to do with the stop sign at 75th and MacArthur... and probably a rolling stop thereat.

Law and Order... 5 people die over the definition of a stop at a stop sign, and the potential municipal revenue to ensue... though, that's just an ex-cabbie's guess.

[ShortnFiery]

2. I would not be surprised if Assault Rifles were involved.

Hard to imagine that much damage with hand guns alone, but anything is possible.

May God watch over the injured Police Officers and their beloved friends and families.

[hack89]

5. Virginia Tech demonstrated very well the damage that hand guns alone can do. nt

[cliffordu]

6. You don't know very much about handguns and close quarters combat,

do you??

[bemildred]

9. Maybe:

"First reports of the incident came from a 911 call at 1:16 p.m., reporting that two officers had been shot, possibly with an assault-type rifle. The suspect fled from the scene, sparking a huge manhunt that involved officers from at least five different law enforcement agencies."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/0...

[Pavulon]

10. Rifles tend to do more damage

that is the basic nature of the weapon. drug or gang related motive to drop the pin, you call it.

[bemildred]

12. Yep, the spin gives the bullet extra stability, so it can go faster with more accuracy.

But I was mainly responding to the "assault" part of "assault rifle".

[Pavulon]

14. Any rifle carries more energy

than a pistol or shotgun pellet. The Orwellian language is not really that important. If it was black and skurry or commie looking it still puts a 130 - 180 grain chunk of metal down range at 2500fps or more. Just like the lone rangers 30-30. That will blow right through a bullet proof vest used by most leos.

I would bit my left testicle this is drug or gang related. The weapon is not the issue.

BTW the energy comes from a case with more powder and a barrel that allows more pressure to build to push a piece of metal faster. no more no less.

[bemildred]

16. Well, I was responding to post #2, which speculated it was an "assault rifle".

I was just offering information that suggested that was true. In that post the weapon did sort of seem to be the issue. You, or course, are free to talk about whatever you like, and I appreciate your contributions.

[Pavulon]

17. Hope all involved pull through.

have not seen confirmed news of deaths. However thoughts are with the families. A tragedy for all involved.

[LooseWilly]

235. Oakland is not LA.

The gang scene is not so well defined.
At least not as far as a cabbie who's driven the "thugs" around Oakland, and the customers to the hot-spot corners, can tell... in comparison with the "gang" definitions the cops and so on are spewing on the tele...

Most of the Oakland "gangs" are just groups that "came up" together... grew up together, ran together in school... got into fights together... and then got into the dealing scene (though about 5 or 6 years back there was a semi-nihilist crew that was apparently trying to ramp up the violence by robbing various drug crews and what not at gun point... just trying to up the chaos and violence... at least according to what I overheard from a crew of 3 dealers "commuting" to their corner by taxi).

All these attempts to superimpose the gun banning debate over this... please people, stop making generic gang/drug motive arguments drawn from Law Enforcement papers seeking funding, or tv shows (aside from the Wire... that show seemed pretty damned well on target...) for your pro or anti gun arguments.

Ohh, and, just to mention a point, isn't that why the Second Amendment was put into the Constitution? To guarantee the rights of the citizen to a capacity to resist an unjust government?... only now the definitions of "citizen" and "unjust government" seem to be under attack... Maybe the dealers are precisely the ones that the Founding Fathers inadvertently meant to protect?...

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

18. How could that be assault weapons are banned in California?

[Mz Pip]

20. That doesn't mean

people don't have them.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

21. Of course you are right, that means that only criminals have them.

[depakid]

101. No, what it means is other Americans have them- and bring them in

which is why responsible regulation to halt their proliferation has to be done at the federal level.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

173. If they did that they would be criminals, so I'm right.

[slackmaster]

115. The shooter was a convicted felon with an "extensive criminal record"

He was prohibited by both state and federal law from having any kind of firearm.

Very sad story. Too bad the guy wasn't in prison where he belonged.

[marshall]

136. I pray for the suspect's safety

He has stumbled into a horrible situation. Regardless of his guilt or innocence he is a human being and deserves dignity and safety.

[dukefan]

138. WHAT???

"He has stumbled into a horrible situation. Regardless of his guilt or innocence he is a human being and deserves dignity and safety"

Are you serious??? He didn't "stumble" into a horrible situation...he came out of his car with his gun blazing and CAUSED a horrible situation. And he is not a "suspect"....he is a murderer!!! And his being "a human being and deserves dignity and safety"...what about the officers.....they didn't deserve to be treated with dignity and safety??? Were they not human beings....human beings with families....and young children!!!

I was sick to my stomach when I first read what happened in Oakland....and just when I was over it I read something like this from someone like you.....you are unbelievable!!!!

[marshall]

143. He is a human being who has allegeldy done a horrible thing

Something pushed him to such a desperate situation.

[RamboLiberal]

144. Earth to Marshall - the 4 police officers were human beings as well

with families and loved ones.

[marshall]

146. I pray for the families of all the victims

I taught in an inner city school, and I can imagine that many of the kids I taught had lives like the suspect's in this case.

Such a tragedy.

[LooseWilly]

236. when you say "as well", I don't get the feeling you mean an equal comparison.

You sound like one of those people who somehow think that the cops are better human beings than the criminals.

Speaking as a cab driver of 10 years in Oakland, I'd have to say I preferred dealing with drug dealers over police. They knew how to handle a business arrangement (money for a ride), and they withheld their judgements until after they'd interacted with you.

The police, on the other hand... well let's just say that I was pulled over one day because some taxi detail cops "didn't recognize" me. In other words... I was too white to be driving a taxi, so they pulled me over. They then pulled the taxi out of service over bald tires in July, costing me half a days potential income, and they also pulled the old lady fare I had in the car out from under me... and offered to drive her themselves once they'd taken me out of service... not only costing me the $10 in fare that she'd already run up, but the $30 or more that was likely to come when she decided to take a cab across the bat to SF rather than BART... an option she was denied when the police decided that a white guy in a cab was too suspicious to not pull over.
I won't even talk about the times that I was hassled by the police, who then 10 minutes later couldn't spare the time to respond when I wasted my time trying to call them and get their services... money's worth you might even say.

So my response... I hope the bicycle cop who was willing to think about my counter argument that double parking behind a UPS truck on Grand wasn't, in fact, impeding traffic wasn't one of the ones who got hit. I hope that that dude who was working the foot beat around City Center in '06 wasn't one of the ones. I hope that that City Center beat dude who arrested the fare running the bank scam out of my cab (who still owes me $53) but was at least cool enough to let me know what was up with that whole prosecution, I hope he wasn't in the mix.

As for the rest of OPD... well, do onto others as you would have done unto you... MacDonnell... I'm looking at you, you prick.

[Grinchie]

181. Now that he's dead, we will never know the mechanism that caused this event.

I'm pretty sure the shooting of Oscar Grant, a rowdy individual that was shot by an officer while three others were kneeling on his neck has some bearing on the suspects response.

The Oscar Grant shooting caused a great deal of disturbance to the community, and the initial reponse of the Police here protected the officer until indepedent video surfaced from nemerous witnesses to the shooting.

I'm living a short distance away from Oakland, and I can tell you that it wouldn't take much to ignite a race riot. Industry is almost totally destroyed in Oakland, and the services remaining in the bad areas are Police. The Suprime mortage fraud preyed upon the inhabitants mercilessly. People really don't care anymore. The streets are filthy, and no money is reinvested. Society is forcing this class into action at one point or another.

[Pavulon]

183. half assed gangbanger shooting police

is not your model for a class war. This piece of shit killed 4 people because he did not want to go to prison. He should have blown his brains out and saved some suffering.

He shot them because he did not want to pay up for the dirt he did. FUCK HIM.

[cabluedem]

207. I agree. I live in the Bay area too. A few more "Oscar Grant's" and Oakland will be a tinderbox just

waiting to happen. Its still hard to fathom that only ONE man dropped four trained officers in their tracks, however. We need to get serious about gun control, as in "One And Done". One gun-crime and you are done for the rest of your life.

[slackmaster]

246. I doubt that anyone in Oakland other than the bad guy's mom is going to be upset that he's dead

People do understand the difference between this situation and the killing of Oscar Grant.

[Mz Pip]

250. Nope

I was listening to the radio this morning and there were plenty of callers who made all kinds of excuses for what Mixon did, some voicing little or no compassion for the police officers and their families. One woman was asked straight up if she felt any sadness at all for the families and she said "No."

One guy said that the police sign up for this, like it's their fault this happened.

Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who only view the police in a bad light, no matter what.

[LooseWilly]

239. Uhh, you're taking the media people too seriously, I think

I mean, yeah, there's a lot of rage in the community... but the Oscar Grant shooting is mostly just a recent name to re-focus the rage. Don't get me wrong... recent names to re-focus the rage are a very powerful thing in a city like Oakland... and I don't mean to downplay that... but, from 10 years of driving a cab in Oakland, my guess was that this shooting had nothing to do with that... and apparently some lately info suggests that dude was on parole, for some reason had a gun, and was afraid of being sent back to the slam...
He was mostly just dumb... or he was pretty smart and managed to lose all evidence of whatever he was into since getting out of jail by rather efficiently gunning down a couple of motorcycle cops around 74th and MacArthur.... and then suddenly got dumb again and went to ground in a house/apartment that he could be traced to... and gunned down in by SWAT.
As far as Oakland is concerned.. this is not the stuff of race riots. As a matter of fact, I'd say it's mostly business as usual.. except that a lot of the thugs will be celebrating that dude managed to take out some SWAT... I'd expect a double plus assload of flowers on the street shrine at, what was it?, 74th and Holly?... (always surprised when these things don't trace back to the projects around 92nd and Hillside... those places spooked me even at my most "Travis Bickle" moments...)
Hell... I'd bet that most of the "thugs" around Oakland are actually feeling vindicated now... it's only the politicals that are likely to be looking to use this for anything... race riot or what have you...
Unless things have changed drastically in the year and a half I've been out of circulation...

[Mike Daniels]

252. Mechanism - Parolee who violated the terms of his parole who didn't want to go back to jail

Sounds like a real victim of circumstances to me. I can see why he went and blew away those officers who were about to oppress his freedom.

Sarcasm...

[okieinpain]

249. have to agree. n/t.

[LisaL]

142. Well you can stop praying now.

[dukefan]

145. Marshall...you are praying for the wrong person in this tragedy

You want to pray for a POS parolee who made it his mission to kill as many cops as he could...but not once have I heard you pray for 4 innocent (yes, 4 now because the 4th officer died this morning) men who gave their lives protecting and serving....you are wrong....wrong on so many levels.

[slackmaster]

245. He's dead

It's an unfortunate waste of life.

[Grinchie]

179. Thats right, lock him up for good. Better find out why he got put there in the first place

and fix that part of society that allowed him to get where he did.

[LisaL]

204. The only place he is going to be at is six feet under.

The suspect is dead.

[cabluedem]

103. Yeah, it was a high powered assault-rifle that blew these officers away. n/t

[Mz Pip]

3. Here's an update

from our local news. 2 officers were shot during a routine traffic stop. The shooter took off but was later located a few blocks away in an apartment. The SWAT team came in and the shooter shot 2 of those officers before he was shot and killed.

As of now, 5PM CA time, the 4 officers are in critical condition at Highland Hospital.

[The abyss]

4. Mz Pip Thanks for the update!

[CreekDog]

11. the news is saying they have all died

i've got no words.

[qanda]

7. So sad! I hope they will recover.

[deadmessengers]

8. I wonder if it's related to the BART shooting back in January? n/t

[Mz Pip]

19. Seems unlikely

These were Oakland PD not BART cops.

That's a very rough part of town.

[Posteritatis]

13. Now, will we see people condeming the remaining cops for excessive force against the shooter?

How dare they shoot back, etc etc etc. ;P

[Grinchie]

182. We spend tons of money on lethal weapons.

Where are all the non lethal weapons that can incapacitate a suspect? You know they exist.

It could be as simple as drilling a hole inthe door and slipping a hose connected to a gas tank and turning on a valve.

Or maybe a robot that goes in and tasering the suspect. Nah, this was all unnecessary after the first two officers were shot.

[Pavulon]

186. Doofus,

he was shooting at them. Killed two and hit one in the head. So they shot him. Should they just ask nice?

The Russians used gas in the theater event, it killed lots of people. Not viable.

I have never worked in LE but have carried a rifle and understand that when someone is trying to kill you it becomes quite personal that they die first.

Fuck a robot. 4 guys with sub machine guns in proper gear, using tear gas and flash bangs are the correct approach.

Suspect gives up or dies.

[The abyss]

15. I want to know what has gone down here.

Any local info?

Why was this “stop” initiated? Who was the suspect that pulled off this much damage?

Obviously the MSM is waiting for their cue cards.

Anyone out there with a scoop on this?

Several comments about the BART shooting – how is this related?

[Grinchie]

185. Look up Oscar Grant on the Internets

Look at the videos on the You Tube. Look at the reaction of the Community. That's what it has to do with this.

[CreekDog]

22. 4 Oakland Officers Fatally Shot, Gunman Dead

Source: CBS 5

OAKLAND (CBS 5/BCN/KCBS)

CBS 5 has learned that four officers are dead, along with a suspect after a traffic stop led to a massive manhunt in the streets of East Oakland.

It all began with the the fatal shooting of two officers during a traffic stop near 73rd and Hillside Streets, around 1 p.m. Saturday. The gunmen fled and police closed off the surrounding streets to traffic while dozens of Oakland police, California Highway Patrol officers and Alameda County sheriff deputies participated in an intense search for the suspects.

At about 3:10 p.m., a SWAT team confronted the suspects barricaded inside an apartment building close to location of the first shooting. Gunfire was exchanged between the two parties, fatally wounding two more officers, and killing one of the suspects.

Authorities say the Alameda County coroner has been called to Highland Hospital in Oakland in response to the shooting but the hospital is not releasing any information yet. The Oakland Police Department is expected to hold a press conference around 7 p.m. Saturday.

Read more: http://cbs5.com/local/shooting.officer.oakland.2.964784...

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I hope this report is wrong and that they have not all been killed.

[geckosfeet]

23. 1 thug with a gun kills 4 trained and probably better armed officers.

WTF. Hope this is not right.

This link says that they (the officers) are critical.
Shootings leave 4 Oakland police officers in critical condition

[depakid]

69. Probably not better armed....

[primavera]

126. Can't be - the NRA assures us that guns save lives

... and the solution to gun violence is for everyone to have as many guns as possible. So in this instance, with everyone armed to the teeth, no one should have been harmed. Quick, pass me another glass of that delicious NRA Kool Aid - reality is interfering with my appreciation of the live saving properties of guns.

[jobycom]

24. Hope it's not right, too. They don't name any sources. nt

[tclambert]

25. CNN says they were just wounded, only one shooter.

Four police officers are in critical condition and a suspect is dead after two shootings in an Oakland, California, neighborhood, Saturday afternoon, police confirmed.

Police received a call around 1:15 p.m. reporting two officers down on MacArthur Boulevard, Oakland Police Chief Howard Jordan said.

A manhunt was under way for the shooter when an anonymous caller directed authorities to a building on an adjacent street where the gunman was believed to be barricaded, Jordan said.

The gunman opened fire, wounding two more officers before police returned fire, killing the suspect, Jordan said.

The four officers were taken to Highland Hospital, Officer Jeff Thomason said.

Police said they are investigating whether others were involved in the incident, but don't believe there is another shooter.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/21/california.officers...

Video public statement from police at http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/200...

From San Francisco Chronicle: "We've received four officers in the trauma center," said Patricia VanHook, a Highland Hospital spokeswoman who said no other information was available.

About 100 officers were gathered outside the entrance to the hospital's emergency room, waiting desperately for information about their wounded friends and colleagues. Some of them were wearing SWAT gear, while others were wearing baseball jerseys after having raced from a game.

While the Alameda County coroner was called to the hospital in response to the shooting, information could be slow in coming, Thomason said.

"This is a highly sensitive situation that we're dealing with right now," he said. "We're still trying to notify family members that their family members were hurt."

More at: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/0...

[tclambert]

26. Three Oakland police officers killed, one critically wounded after traffic stop, shootout

http://www.mercurynews.com/centralcoast/ci_11968175 says three of the police officers died.

Harry Harris and Kamika Dunlap - Oakland Tribune
Posted: 03/21/2009 06:04:29 PM PDT

OAKLAND - Three Oakland police officers were shot to death and one critically wounded in two separate incidents involving one suspect near the Eastmont police substation this afternoon, law enforcement sources said.

Initial reports from law enforcement sources had stated that four officers were killed. However, police revised that statement a short time ago. . . .

Officers were walking to the substation consoling each other, some visibly crying, to attend a news conference at 4:30 p.m.

[tclambert]

27. San Mateo County Times also says 3 officers dead, one critical

posted about 25 minutes ago. They say Oakland hasn't had an officer die in the line of duty since 2004.

http://www.insidebayarea.com/sanmateocountytimes/ci_119...

[Ex Lurker]

28. The commenters on SFGate are taking the opportunity to

bash Ron Dellums, the people of Oakland,and the city administration in general. I didn't know the Bay Area had so many wingnuts.

[mackerel]

29. I'm getting 3 of 4 officers dead. My ex lives down the

street and he says it's bad over there.

[dixiegrrrrl]

30. Wingnut heaven....huge variety of them.

[Gormy Cuss]

31. SFGate attracts some serious trolls.

Some from the area but some who quite obviously have never been here based on their lack of knowledge.

[CreekDog]

51. SFGate has the worst trolls, I think mostly from outside the area

you can usually tell because for example, when South San Francisco had a murder (first one in a few years) the trolls kept saying we were San Francisco and so forth. folks here know the difference.

but those trolls are incredibly bad.

[EFerrari]

52. They are ug-lee. I don't even read the comments any more. Too gross.

[Liberal_in_LA]

66. It was like a KKK meeting in there!

[EFerrari]

68. I KNOW!

[Mz Pip]

32. Sometimes even I am surprised

and I've lived here since 1969.

Lots of good diversity but there are plenty of extremists on all sides in the mix.

[Liberal_in_LA]

65. The posts were making me nauseous. I fled.

[Brooklyns_Finest]

33. Oakland is a failed state

I live in Berkeley, and I avoid Oakland at all cost. I am from Brooklyn, NY, but Oakland takes thug life to the levels of Philly and Baltimore. I moved out here in July, and this is the first place that I have ever lived where the thugs rob restaurants and the patrons. The stuff that happens in movies happen in real life here. Oakland has 1/20th the population of NY yet they some how are able to reach half the murders that NYC has annually.

Prey for the family of the deceased and wounded officers.

[XemaSab]

43. Oakland's not THAT bad

but I do have to say the scary thing about the restaurant robberies is that they're in a nice neighborhood.

[Brooklyns_Finest]

48. You don't think

That Oakland is as bad as Philly or Baltimore? I moved here about 9 months ago, and I knew this place was different when in one weekend there were 7 seperate murders. That is some outrageous stuff.

And yes, the restaurant robberies are kind of crazy, but maybe it will get the limosine liberals to seriously look at the crime issue in the Oaktown. I mean, the police disuade residents from holding memorials for dead friends/relatives, because the make prime targets for secondary drive bys.

I actually live in Albany, and thank god we have not had to deal with this shit. I have enough drama in my life when I go see the family in NYC, I want my place of residence to be calm.

[XemaSab]

49. Like I said in a different post

I was born and raised in Oakland. Many parts of the city are safe. Many parts are NOT safe.

[Brooklyns_Finest]

54. Yeah

But the bad are very bad. Coincidentally, I work in Richmond CA. Richmond gets a bad rap, but it is hardly as bad as Oakland.

And yes, Montclair and Peidmont are very nice areas.

[XemaSab]

60. Piedmont

is a different city.

[SoDesuKa]

114. It Shouldn't Be

Piedmont is the wealthy part of Oakland, but the residents formed their own city to avoid paying Oakland city taxes. It's another instance of white people shirking civic responsibilities. Henry J. Kaiser brought Black people up from the Deep South to build Liberty Ships during World War II. Then he just dumped them there. Now they're America's own Palestinians - not part of our society, shut out and unable to make independent livelihoods - and subject to the brutality of a police state.

[Grinchie]

193. I lived near Richmond in 1996

I'll never forget New Years eve 1997.

The number of guns being fired off in east richmond sounded like a war zone. AK-47's, Machine Guns, and about a hundred other types of weapons being fired into the air.

Richmond is another area of desperation.

[paulsby]

187. i considered applying to oakland PD

and did a ride-along with them many years ago.

that place is frigging NUTS.

first thing the cop asked when i got in his car was "are you armed?"


i told him no.

he handed me a backup revolver. i was a cop in another jurisdiction (out of state), but i was still kind of surprised.

it was an interesting night.

"oaktown".

[Grinchie]

189. I agree, but there are certain areas that you don't want to be in if you don't have to be.

Like International and Hegenberger in a radius of about 10 miles.

The energy that seethes from the environmnet is terrifying. You can feel it in your body, and everybody raises their defenses instinctively there. Those that live there are in constant defensive posture, causing the reduction of cognitive thought to be severe. Add drugs, Alcohol, Unemployment and you have a powder keg.

Me and my wife drove through that area in late 2007 on a friday afternoon and it was so scary that I couldn't get out of it fast enough. One just got the impression that the exits could close up at any instant. The signals tended to be areas where large groups of people hung out. Cars would park in driving lanes for no reason, and it felt like at any moment, you could be somebodies next meal.

I have a very panic resistant personality, but I trust my instincts, and they were telling me to get the fuck out.

[EFerrari]

44. I was born in Oakland, lived in Berkeley as an adult

and know that this was a mess waiting to happen. OPD has had very serious problems for years and years.

Those poor people.

[inwiththenew]

34. Information on the shooter is coming out

Lovell Mixon, 27

-Extensive criminal history
-Was wanted on a no-bail warrant for violation of his parole, which he was on parole for assault with a deadly weapon.

[slackmaster]

127. Another poster child for stiff sentences for violent repeat offenders

Meanwhile, California prisons remain overcrowded with non-violent drug offenders and financial criminals, and California schools are near the bottom in per-pupil spending.

[Hepburn]

35. OMG....

....

How horrible! But...how could one gunman get FOUR cops????

[lurky]

38. Did he have a military background, maybe?

I would think someone would need some serious firearms skill to kill 4 cops in a standoff. I assume the cops were wearing vests, so it would be even harder.

[Brooklyns_Finest]

47. You don't need military training to kill someone

When a cop stops someone they do not assume that person has a gun, much less a person looking to shoot them. They got caught off guard. The second shootings are a bit problamatic. They have the guy cornered, but the only way to apprehend him is to go in and get him. At that point he knows he is fucked and is just shooting for his life.

[Corey_Baker08]

104. I Believe I read that the 3 officers were killed as they entered an apartment in which he was.......

held up in. "Around 3:30 p.m. officers got an anonymous tip that the gunman was inside a nearby apartment building. A SWAT team entered an apartment to clear and search it when the gunman opened fire, police said. Two members of the SWAT team were killed and a third was grazed by a bullet", police said.

"Officers returned fire, killing 26-year-old Lovelle Mixon of Oakland," Acting Oakland police Chief Howard Jordan said.

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Still curious as what type of weapon it was. You would think three officers (ecspecially Oakland Officers)entering in an apartment would likely have been outgunned by the subject
with an assault rifle or something similar.

[Joe Chi Minh]

139. Deleted by Joe as too uninformed.

[Grinchie]

195. Last night, the Cops refused to identify the type of weapon.

I got the impression they didn't wnat enyone else to get any ideas of what kind of weapon gives a Swat team two fatalities.

[Archae]

41. Add one tweaker, and a semi-automatic.

[Pavulon]

163. gang banger, felony warrant..

he cant own a gun. btw murder is illegal too. Maybe he forgot about that?

[Renew Deal]

36. If the cops killed 4 armed criminals there'd be 50 posts denouncing the cops

But there's not even one RIP message here. That's disappointing but not shocking.

[EFerrari]

39. Because we don't know the status yet. But thanks for bashing DU

for no reason.

[Renew Deal]

227. Not bashing

Observing

[EFerrari]

251. There were people here who didn't want to offer condolences

if there was a chance that any of these officers could survive.