Travel plans 'to be tracked'

[dipsydoodle]

Source: Yahoo News

Passengers leaving from every sea port, station or airport will have to give detailed personal information.

Cross-channel "booze cruise" shoppers, weekend sailors and sea fishermen will be brought under the e-borders system, which will eventually record details of 250 million journeys every year.

The UK Border Agency is bringing in the checks gradually. It is understood that by the end of the year, 60 per cent of journeys made out of Britain will be affected.

Some 95 per cent of people leaving the country being subject to the plans by the end of 2010.

Read more: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090314/tuk-travel-plans-to-be-tracked-dba1618.html

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That's ALL travellers - not just UK citizens going abroad and returning.

[PM Martin]

1. The UK embodies a bad characature of the "Big Brother" state.

[No Elephants]

16. Fits. Orwell was a Brit.

[harun]

23. He saw the seeds of this and warned them.

[saigon68]

2. One fucked up country

I wonder if they will look in peoples mouths too?

[Lost in CT]

19. Have you seen British Teeth... talk about terra terra terra

[saigon68]

22. That woman needs a shave

[Warpy]

3. The murders in Ulster have them very nervous

about returning to the 1970s.

[dipsydoodle]

4. There is at least an oddity there

because Northern Ireland is UK and I can't really see them putting in any border controls for those crossing into the Republic.

Creates a backdoor.

[muriel_volestrangler]

12. There are now checks on Republic-mainland Britain flights and ferries, but not the land border

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jan/15/uk-irish-republic-border-passports

The British government was actually proposing a compulsory identity check on flights and ferries between Northern Ireland and Britain, but it "was dropped after strong opposition from Conservatives and Ulster Unionists."

[Hannah Bell]

14. British agents provocateur directed by their intelligence services

were responsible for quite a bit of the "terror" of the 70s.

So one wonders how nervous they really are.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ira-double-agent-stakeknife-forced-to-flee-ireland-as-cover-is-blown-538405.html

[liberalhistorian]

5. Fuck. That.

I realize we don't have it too much different in our own airports, but it's still not as bad. If our own airports ever pull this shit, I will NEVER fly. Period. The airlines are complaining about decreased business, but I don't think it's just due to the eocnomy. People aren't gonna put up with this kind of shit. And unless everyone is required to fly, they don't have to do so.

[Politicalboi]

6. 9/11 strikes again

And the bombing on 07/07/07 in London. This is why we have to go back and investigate Bush. More bullshit we have to put up with for false flag attacks.

[dixiegrrrrl]

7. Not a peep out of any tourist agency, huh?

[No Elephants]

17. Hey, I think you're on to something. Government is not protecting our civil

liberties. Our politicans are not protecting them.

Maybe we can figure out a way to get lobbyists to protect them. Win win win.

Do you suppose we can convince purveyors of diaries to lobby against some of the snooping into our personal lives? I mean, if every movement and syllable is a matter of public record, why keep a diary?

[madrchsod]

8. the labor government has implemented orwell`s 1984

the "left" can be as dangerous as the "right"

[treestar]

9. The obsession with borders is ridiculous

Mere inconvenience to ordinary people. Terrorists will find a way around the restrictions.

[liberal N proud]

10. Show me your papers

Where are your papers. You say you don't have papers? Police, take this man to jail, he dose not have papers that allow him to travel outside his home.

[msongs]

11. didja watch the recent show on PBS about britain's all-intrusive spy systems?

dang cannot recall the series title but it was all about a central government spy network that tracked everything people did in the name of "security". very chilling. government ran a state murder racket to eliminate opposition to the "system".

what's the famous quote about people who give up freedom for security deserve neither?

Msongs

[bikebloke]

13. How are they going to track backpackers.

You have a general plan, that changes on whim and the people you meet on the Continent.

[The abyss]

15. What needs to happen is a populist rebellion -

One that results in members of the government being hung.

Boudicca needs to walk that land again. Only this time with modern tactics and zero remorse!

[enlightenment]

18. She had zero remorse the first time . . . *grin*

and the UK nanny state will implode sooner rather than later. First, unfortunately, they will probably swing back to the Tories for relief from the Blair/Brown pseudo-liberal Labour. After they've suffered under the Conservatives for awhile, they'll start figuring it out. They always do.

But it won't be this that triggers the implosion, I think. It's the more invasive personal nanny-ism that will shift the balance. Sir Liam, the government's personal bulldog 'health' guru, is now calling on raising the alcohol tax 50p per percent of alcohol in a drink - that would be a massive increase in cost per unit. It's just a suggestion at the moment, but Sir Liam was the one who originally proposed a complete ban on smoking in public places - and they're getting pretty close to it now, inch by inch. I fully expect to see the Labour government come out with something similar to his booze tax proposal very soon; both because they love telling people how to live their lives and they want the money from the increased tax . . .

They could get away with legislating 'safety' but no government can successfully - in the long-term - legislate morality and personal behaviour. That's what this government has been busy doing, and it's going to fail. It's just a question of how long it takes before the public simply tells them to stuff it where the sun don't shine.

[The abyss]

20. Enlightenment – thank you for this reply!

I know I stated that phrase incorrectly, but I just didn’t know how to put out the thought.

I truly hope the masses put paid to the incredible nonsense which as engulfed the island since the First World War. They are good people and they deserve so much better.

Boudicca lost her war so many centuries ago – perhaps the next incarnation will do better!

[mainer]

21. The most spied-upon citizenry in the world

Everywhere you go in London, you're caught on some security camera somewhere. It's a vestige of the IRA era. Also, you can't find a decent trash can anywhere in the country, because of fears of bombs.