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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 12:31 PM
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Former Nazi camp guard charged 29,000 times
Source: Washington Post

BERLIN -- German prosecutors said Wednesday they have charged retired Ohio auto worker John Demjanjuk with more than 29,000 counts of accessory to murder for his time as a guard at the Nazis' Sobibor death camp, and will seek his extradition from the U.S.

Demjanjuk (dem-YAHN'-yuk) is accused of participating in the murders while he was a guard at the Nazi camp in occupied Poland between March and September 1943.

"In this capacity, he participated in the accessory to murder of at least 29,000 people of the Jewish faith," Munich prosecutors said in a statement.

The 88-year-old Demjanjuk, who lives in a Cleveland suburb, denies involvement.


Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/11/AR2009031100788.html
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 12:32 PM
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1. Holy moly. I remember this guy claiming how
innocent he was. I say we give him back to Germany and may justice be done.
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iandhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 01:04 PM
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2. I might be behind the times but the article says
Demjanjuk was extradited to Israel in 1986, when the U.S. Justice Department believed he was the sadistic Nazi guard known as Ivan the Terrible from the Treblinka death camp.

He spent seven years in custody before the Israeli high court freed him after receiving evidence that another Ukrainian was that Nazi guard."

If the Israeli's freed him then what is this?

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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 01:19 PM
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4. He was tried, convicted and sentenced to death by hanging before they realized the mistake.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 01:41 PM
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5. So the DOJ says he's someone else now?
What a bizarre case. And one that's been going on for decades.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Demjanjuk
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 01:19 PM
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3. He was only following orders.
He should get off scot-free and be lauded as a hero for serving his nation in uniform.

They should punish those in Washington er, ah, Berlin.

:sarcasm:

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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 01:57 PM
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6. He was a Ukranian POW working as a guard.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 02:02 PM
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7. Hmm. So how many times should we be charging Bush / Cheney / Rumsfeld / Rice / Yoo / Gonzales...?
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 02:19 PM
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8. Over a million times
Once for every man, woman, and child who died in their illegal war of aggression against Iraq on all sides.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 03:15 PM
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12. Sentences to be served consecutively
Or -- if we could find a reliable way of reviving someone after killing them -- we could take the old eye-for-an-eye approach...
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 06:48 PM
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14. In LBJ's case it would have been four million charges.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 03:50 PM
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13. My first thought also.
Bullies should be punished.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 02:46 PM
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9. Sobibor Trials
... former SS men who served in Sobibor were brought to trial in Hagen in September 1965 charged with murdering Jews in the Sobibor death camp ...

In April 1963, at a court in Kiev where Sasha Pechersky was the chief prosecution witness, ten former Ukrainian guards were found guilty and executed, one was sentenced to fifteen years in prison.

A third trial was held in Kiev in June 1965, where three former death camp guards from Sobibor and Belzec were executed by firing squad ...

http://www.deathcamps.org/sobibor/sobibortrials.html
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 02:48 PM
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10. The Sobibor Personnel
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 02:58 PM
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11. Good. nt
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 07:03 PM
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15. so why isn't Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfield charged 1,000,000 times
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 05:59 AM
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17. for the same reason that LBJ was charged 4,000,000 times.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 05:38 AM
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16. On the one hand, great. On the other hand, he's lived to 88, free of retribution, while his victims
never had that luxury, even if they survived physically.

I felt the same way when the pedophile priests started getting arresting in their 70's and 80's.

Sometimes the wheels of justice just grind far too slowly.
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