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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:08 PM
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14-times Olympic gold medal winner Michael Phelps caught with cannabis pipe
Edited on Sat Jan-31-09 08:12 PM by THUNDER HANDS
Source: News Of The World



THIS is the astonishing picture which could destroy the career of the greatest competitor in Olympic history. In our exclusive photo Michael Phelps, who won a record EIGHT gold medals for swimming at the Beijing games last summer, draws from a bong. The glass pipes are generally used to smoke cannabis.


And after sporting chiefs announced laws which mean four-year bans for drug-taking, Phelps dreams of adding to his overall 14 gold medal tally at the 2012 games in London could already be OVER. Those dreams seemed the last thing on his mind when he puffed from the bong during two days of partying with students last November, a quiet time in the swimming calendar when athletes would not expect to get tested for drugs.


One party-goer who witnessed the stars behaviour told the News of the World: He was out of control from the moment he got there.
If he continues to party like that Id be amazed if he ever won any more medals again.

Read more: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/150832/14-times-Ol...



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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:10 PM
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1. Well, that explains his famously unhealthy diet.
:rofl:
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RedEmpress Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:20 AM
Response to Reply #1
75. The munchies
Well-known side-effect of weed. More power to him. :-)
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:11 PM
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2. Um, it's just pot. A PROVEN-BENEFICIAL HERB.
Get the fuck OVER it already.

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Unca Jim Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #2
21. Beneficial or not...
smoking anything is still bad for you.

Anyway, I agree otherwise...who cares if he passes his tests when he need to?
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:44 PM
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24. Eating fatty foods is bad for you too, but we don't destroy people's careers for eating McDonald's.
I think it is disgusting that people would even think that this should destroy his career, he didn't do anything to harm anyone else and the harm to himself was a lot less than the harmful effects of drinking sugary soft drinks or eating fast food.
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 09:52 PM
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40. What planet are you from?
No offense, but regardless of whether you agree or disagree with smoking pot, you can't be shocked that people would expect his career would be harmed. He has a reputation of a clean living, healthy, Olympian and an American hero. He is caught doing drugs and you are shocked that people suggest it will harm his career? Really?

I think that what you meant to say was that it is shocking that a semi-harmless drug that hurts nobody else should hurt his career. Especially Pot. Still you don't see too many pictures on that Wheaties box of anybody with a bong in hand. Personally, I agree with you on the effects of pot vs sugary drinks and fast food. At the same time, even I know that this can't be good for his career.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:03 PM
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43. I said exactly what you said I meant to say
Edited on Sat Jan-31-09 10:06 PM by Bjorn Against
Here are my words: "I think it is disgusting that people would even think that this should destroy his career."

Here are yours: "I think that what you meant to say was that it is shocking that a semi-harmless drug that hurts nobody else should hurt his career."

So how is what I said different than what you think I meant to say?

No offense but you should read my words before you attack because I never said what you wrote in your first paragraph, but I did say what you thought I meant to say.
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:30 PM
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54. You are 100% correct
Not only did I attack you, but my attack was unfounded. A thousand apologies. I guess I didn't read it carefully enough or just glanced it too quickly. In any case, my apologies. I guess I should put down the bong.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #54
58. Thanks apology accepted, I have read things wrong before as well it happens.
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 05:51 AM
Response to Reply #40
93. What if pot's analgesic and stress reducing effects help his workout? A benefit that
is not available to other athletes. If you see it as an unfair advantage to Phelps as seen from a competitor's viewpoint, you'll see the fairness of banning Phelps.
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 06:39 AM
Response to Reply #93
96. Although it is a very interesting point, I doubt
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 06:42 AM by TheEuclideanOne
that anybody could publicly make that argument in our society. Don't forget that drugs like marijuana are bad, bad, bad. Arguing that they actually have a benefit other than for enjoyment would never fly, regardless of how logical it might be. Personally, I am doubtful of it too because I could never imagine getting a good workout while being stoned. Also, if you are stoned, it would be impossible to complete a set of 10 bench presses. You could never count to 10.....1....2....3....4...5....(How many was that so far?)

Seriously, though, regarding a competitive advantage, one other potential unfair advantage is in maintaining a high calorie intake. I am sure that in his case you will hear alot of jokes about it. I actually laughed when reading one of the first posts here about how we now know how he ate so much food. If you are required to maintain a high calorie intake, it actually becomes a chore to eat, believe it or not. Back in the day when I went to a gym (today I am a slug) and worked out alot, I was trying to build up muscle and that meant eating alot more than I was used to eating. Believe me it is no small task to do it for an extended period of time. As an athlete, I am sure that it is much worse. If I was smoking pot at the time, it would have made the job of eating alot easier that's for sure.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 06:05 PM
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122. For fuck's sake, STOP with the bullshit stereotypes.
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 06:05 PM by Zhade
Pot doesn't make you stupid. It doesn't make you unable to count to ten.

The only way that happens is if you smoke a ton of indica at once, and that wears off.

I'm sick of the stereotypes, because they're not true. Millions of people use pot regularly and hold down good jobs and live full lives.

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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:04 PM
Response to Reply #122
128. If you say so
I was going to comment on your post, but can't remember what it is at the moment. Note to self: Keep away from bong when posting on DU. Oh well, off to work.
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daggahead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 08:57 AM
Response to Reply #122
148. Amen Zhade! n/t
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #96
153. Marijuana is bad, bad, bad? Really? Why do you think so?
Oh, that's right, because they told you it was. LOL. And yeah, you can work out while high. Exercise is not that difficult.
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 08:38 PM
Response to Reply #153
174. Actually I don't really think it is.
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 08:39 PM by TheEuclideanOne
It is a gateway drug,though. I have, in fact, moved on to cocaine since the beginning of this thread. The stronger the drug, the more that Zhade makes sense :) Just kidding, Zhade, you make very good points and apparently have alot of experience in this area and feel pretty passionate about the topic. I have actually learned a few things from you. For one, I can now tell people that I am very health concious.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 12:25 AM
Response to Reply #174
181. HAHAHAHA!! Oh my, that was a funny post.
: )

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #21
121. Not true. Marijuana smoke is a bronchial dilator -- it used to be prescribed to asthmatics.
Not all smoke is the same.

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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #2
23. I don't see any smoke in that bong.
He probably thought it was an oxygen mask.
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:18 AM
Response to Reply #23
74. a snorkel?? n/t
s
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:29 AM
Response to Reply #23
104. I think
it's a vaporizer. No smoke.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 05:51 AM
Response to Reply #104
137. that is a bong, not a vaporizer. n/t

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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #2
39. "Proven beneficial"? You've been smoking too much of it yourself. Yes, I fully
agree that the War On Drugs is an atrocity. Pot isn't the demon drug conservatives make it out to be, I fully admit that.

But implying that it's "good for you""Beneficial"or that it's without any downside is equally ridiculous. No one with any sense would ever assert that sucking smoke into your lungs is "beneficial" in and of itself.

Yes, I know it can be successfully used to treat symptoms of glaucoma and cancer patients.

But if you don't have either of those, you're probably better off not smoking it in the long run. It tears up your lungs and gradually makes you stupid.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:13 PM
Response to Reply #39
51. Carl Sagan smoked pot, did it gradually make him stupid?
Sagan was probably second only to Einstein among the great scientific minds of the past century and he was a pot smoker, I don't think you could argue that pot made him stupid.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #51
63. There are exceptions. I've seen a TON of weed-stupid people, and so have you.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #63
65. Yeah I have, but I have seen even more non-weed smoking stupid people.
Stupidity comes in a lot of different ways, but there is absolutely no evidence that pot dumbs people down permanently. It may dumb them down when they are stoned, but it does not gradually make people dumb.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:41 PM
Response to Reply #65
69. Really?
>It may dumb them down when they are stoned, but it does not gradually make people dumb.

My favorite was the guy who belonged to the same social group we did; he was "treating his ADD" with "herb". His emotional and mental development evidently ended when he started smoking, and yeah, he wasn't exactly the sharpest pencil in the pack to begin with.

Maybe his whole problem is that he never really sobered up, huh?
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:21 AM
Response to Reply #69
76. That's a tested theory.
People mature naturally from the anxiety that comes from feeling and experiencing life's heartaches. Whe people are perpetually numbed to these events by the introduction of artificial chemicals then they do not mature as usual. There's some scientific stuff out there somewhere about it but I don't have the inclination to look it up right now.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:29 AM
Response to Reply #76
103. Self-Medicating
Children growing up in homes where emotional skills are in short supply tend to end up doing that, in my observations.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #76
114. DUlover, nice to meet you
When I was younger, I had a close friend that entered NA at 16. He told me that one's emotional age is "stuck" at the age one starts using.

It's not medically proven, but I do know that those I've met who are daily users do not seem to mature emotionally.

Of course, this is IMHO.
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 12:07 AM
Response to Reply #114
134. I have seen anecdotal evidence myself. I am included in that group.
I smoked weed all the time during college and for about 15 years after. I can see by my own experience that I was a real idiot for a long time. I am so happy that I no longer have to score a new bag when I am low. Buying weed is a pain in the ass. All the waiting by the phone and making trips around town and having to spend time with the dealer playing playstation games or listening to music was an enormous waste of time. If pot were legalized I imagine that the time expenditure would diminish tremendously. I must say though, that for me, when I was smoking weed I still wasted alot of precious time just being stoned. I believe pot should be legalized. I only think so because tobacco and alcohol are legal and they are worse for you that pot. Neither is a good thing to do with your life. I say let people do what they want in terms of drugs. If they were all legal then they would be alot cheaper and the real addicts would just OD. Eventually they would be weeded out of the gene pool.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 08:46 AM
Response to Reply #69
147. maybe he just didnt like you around!
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EndersDame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #65
162. Drunks are a stupider lot for sure eom
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 08:25 AM
Response to Reply #63
143. I've seen more non-weed stupid people......
You should have seen the stupid beeyatch in a beat up Exploder this morning :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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DUlover2909 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:13 AM
Response to Reply #51
72. Maybe he would have been even smarter without pot.
Maybe he just had so much extra intellectual capaicty that the THC didn't seem to affect him. Or maybe the pot made him smarter. There is no way to tell.
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dnbn Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 01:09 AM
Response to Reply #51
83. You are confusing Carl Sagan with Richard Feynman.
Sagan, while very admirable, was nowhere near second to Einstein and I never heard of his pot smoking. Feynman, who was one of the greatest physicists of the 20th century, did admit to experimenting with marijuana.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:19 AM
Response to Reply #83
89. Carl Sagan was a marijuana enthusiast
It has been well documented. Make no mistake about it, Dr. Sagan loved to toke.

And I agree with you about his place in scientific history. But he was a brilliant writer and teacher of science. He was probably the best ever.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #83
124. Educate yourself. Sagan himself stated he smoked pot.
NT!

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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:56 PM
Response to Reply #83
180. Jesus, did you ever listen to him?
You have to be pretty frequently baked to sound that mellow.
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EndersDame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 05:30 PM
Response to Reply #51
165. As did Shakespeare, Baudalaire, Dumas
and a bunch of other really cool authors http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:LE3b1W3EL6YJ:www.ca...
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 02:31 AM
Response to Reply #39
87. Marijuana Cuts Lung Cancer Tumor Growth In Half, Study Shows
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 02:33 AM
Response to Reply #39
88. Marijuana takes on colon cancer
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #39
111. others have been all over you for the ignorance of your statement...
...but let me add my $0.02. I'm an academic scientist. I'm in my mid-fifties. I've smoked pot, with varying regularity, since I was fifteen years old. I'm not stupid, and my lungs are in fine shape. I expect to be smoking dank, sticky Humboldt County pot well into my emeritus years.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #39
123. My doctors found that it not only keeps me from developing glaucoma, but MADE MY EYES BETTER.
In fact, my eyeglass prescription was LOWERED because of the documented evidence that it improved my eyes. Also, as noted elsewhere, marijuana smoke is a bronchial dilator -- which HELPS, not hinders, breathing.

And it doesn't make you stupid. Only people who don't know the first thing about the difference between indica and sativa strains would make such a laughable comment.

I'll trust my doctors, and the medical science backing up the fact that it's a beneficial herb, over your misinformed opinion ANY day.

Quite simply, you're wrong.

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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 08:44 AM
Response to Reply #39
146. Do you have proof of the gradually makes you stupid part?
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 08:44 AM by Lost4words
should we com pair long term alcohol use vs long term pot use?

9on edit)it may effect spelling however!

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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #39
154. It also helps anxiety and depression, so yeah, it IS beneficial.
I'd rather smoke or eat it than take an SSRI, thank you.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:37 PM
Response to Reply #154
168. I found that to be true as well. Used to take meds, hated the side effects.
NT!

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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #2
45. Vitamin M. n/t
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #2
56. If you eat it
i'm not against pot though.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 05:51 AM
Response to Reply #2
94. Over 400 chemicals in it. INHALING ANY SMOKE INTO YOUR BODY IS UNHEALTHY. GROW UP !
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #94
125. I'll trust my doctors over your ignorance, thanks.
NT!

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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:19 PM
Response to Reply #125
177. Well your doctors probably don't say that inhaling smoke is good for you....
...they probably say that the positive benefits of pot outweigh the negative effects of smoke inhalation...
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 12:27 AM
Response to Reply #177
182. They actually aren't concerned about the smoke. At all.
NT!

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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #94
178. Don't smoke it---Vaporize it.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 09:42 AM
Response to Reply #94
185. Hell, have you had your air analyzed lately?!
the pollution dimson has allowed make the poisons inhaled burning pot look like clean air! IMO!
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:12 PM
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3. Oh no! He's considered a god.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:14 PM
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4. oh no !! he can smoke pot and still win 8 gold medals!
of course he did`t smoke pot during his training but you know pot is really, really bad with long term effects.

one of them is winning gold medals


:smoke:
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:34 AM
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80. Now I am ZEROUSY impressed with his lungs.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:14 PM
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5. Doesn't look like Phelps to me....
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:17 PM
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10. this is him with facial hair
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sasquuatch55 Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:11 AM
Response to Reply #5
101. That's what I thought. Doesn't look like him.
nt
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:14 PM
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6. big deal
I don't expect a lifetime of pharmaceutical chastity from anyone. I think the results of drug tests are the accepted standard and if he passes those he is okay with me.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:15 PM
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7. Other news organizations are picking up the story.
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:15 PM
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8. LOL!
maybe there will be a little bong in every Wheaties Box!!!

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:16 PM
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9. It doesn't look like Phelps,
and it doesn't prove he inhaled!
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:18 PM
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11. Is that really him? I hope for his sake it is not.
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NOW tense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:21 PM
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12. I thought he got caught
smoking once before. Plus who cares.
Oh no! he will be a calmer person!
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 09:54 PM
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41. No, it was a DUI in 2004.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:22 PM
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13. Sane marijuana laws would render this story moot.....

:smoke: Peace and love. Amsterdam Forever!!!!



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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:23 PM
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14. Pot is hardly a performance
enhancing drug.

Guess the moral of this story is that there are no private parties or unscripted moments allowed when everyone around you has a cell phone camera.

Phelps needs new friends.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:23 PM
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15. you never know
if competitive eating ever makes the olympics he'd be set.

:D
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:29 PM
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19. Seems like I remember a few years back
Edited on Sat Jan-31-09 08:29 PM by Mz Pip
that an Olympic Snowboarding team tested positive for cannabis. I don't think they got booted.

This isn't like steriods. It doesn't increase your ability to perform better. If anything, it will slow you down because you might see something of interest on the way across the pool, like the ripples in the water.
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:50 PM
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26. It wasn't the whole team
It was Ross Rebagliati, a Canadian snowboarder. He won the gold, tested for pot, and was disqualified but he got his gold back after an investigation determined that pot is not a performance-enhancing drug i.e. was not on the list of banned substances.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:51 PM
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62. Thanks for the clarification
Is pot now on the list of banned substances? Seems silly since it doesn't do anything to increase one's performance. It's pretty far removed from anabolic steriods.
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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:08 PM
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64. Depends on the sport.
Some sports have it listed, some don't.
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:13 PM
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66. I think so
Edited on Sat Jan-31-09 11:14 PM by DeepBlueC
The judgment was that it is not a performance-enhancing drug. They had to rely on common sense because of the lack of an agreement between the IOC and the international sport federation. I am sure that this bureaucratic oversight has been remedied. :sarcasm:
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 09:08 PM
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33. ROFLMBAO!! ....AND SMDH!! eom
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:35 AM
Response to Reply #14
81. Actually, it is a bronchial dilator.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 06:49 AM
Response to Reply #81
98. Link please?
I've never heard this before, and it has the opposite effect on me. Do you have a trustworthy source for this statement?
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 11:53 AM
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115. Try this one...
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #115
126. Interesting...
...but it's important to note that this article involves administration of aerosolized THC, not smoked cannabis. As a matter of fact, smoked cannabis gets the following mention in the Discussion section:
Smoking marihuana can cause bronchodilatation in asthmatic patients (Tashkin et al., 1974) and prevent experimentally- induced bronchospasm (Tashkin, Shapiro, Lee & Harper, 1975) but the dose is difficult to control, the smoke irritates the airways and long-term use can impair lung function (Henderson, Tennant & Guerry, 1972).


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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:04 PM
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132. Really, smoking is not the preferred route of administration. Me want COOKIE!!
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 08:30 AM
Response to Reply #81
108. that's why you see people coughing like crazy sometimes
no, I don't think so
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 11:54 AM
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116. You might just notice
that the cough is more productive. See link above, and others.
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #116
119. it must be the other ingredients that trigger asthmatic bronchospasm
in me, at least, but it surely does.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 06:19 PM
Response to Reply #116
127. The cough is more productve...
...because you're trying to expel what's left behind of a rather dense particulate solid.

I'm not anti-cannabis at all--I'm just skeptical whenever someone asserts or implies that smoking it is somehow beneficial to your health.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:27 PM
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16. Well, you know, if a British tabloid says it's true, it MUST be true.
They have SUCH a reputation for accuracy and non-sensationalized reporting, you know. :sarcasm:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:27 PM
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17. bummer...I didn't trust some of the..
people I partied with, but having people do you in like that must really suck.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:28 PM
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18. Oh dear...
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:31 PM
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20. Anyone who thinks this should get in the way of his career are the ones with a real problem.
So Phelps may have smoked pot, who the fuck cares? Phelps diet is a lot more dangerous to his body than pot is, alcohol is also far more dangerous but no one would be raising a stink if he was drinking. Pot smokers are not the problem, the problem is the people who think pot smokers should have their lives and careers destroyed over a toke from a bong. I am sick of all the people who freak out over shit like this when they have almost certainly done far worse things than take a hit from a bong themselves.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:34 PM
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22. Not certain that's him....
Edited on Sat Jan-31-09 08:35 PM by BlooInBloo
But if it is, so what?

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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:45 PM
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25. Pot is a hell of a lot better for you then government sanctioned cigarrettes and alcohol
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:51 PM
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27. First sentence is wrong.
Edited on Sat Jan-31-09 09:02 PM by pacalo
It should read...

"This is the astonishing picture which could (by our hand) destroy the career of the greatest competitor in Olympic history."

The next sentence begins with, "In our exclusive photograph..."

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time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:55 PM
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28. This is quite obviously real. No question about it. And it's a big deal.
If it wasn't real then they wouldn't be naming and quoting a spokesman for Phelp's marketing agency.

And it's a big deal, regardless of how relatively harmless smoking pot is. It may make him ineligible to compete. It will also damage his reputation and make him unmarketable, which is something he would be concerned about.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:34 PM
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157. You have to be kidding. They really did brainwash you well when young, didn't they?
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:41 PM
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170. Actually, what the photo proves is that
smoking pot doesn't necessarily hinder you from anything.

That's why the uproar. He just proved to millions upon millions of people that smoking pot doesn't do one least littlest thing to your motivation, drive, sense of purpose, OR physical ability unless you let it happen.

That's why this is such a big to-do. The photo completely destroys the myths.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:58 PM
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29. There are other things smoked from bongs besides pot
Flavoured tobaccos are all the rage in the Middle East.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:49 PM
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61. They're popular in the US too...
You probably remember the big deal here on DU when "Dr." Laura's kid Deryk bought into a hookah bar.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:36 AM
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105. This isn't the middle east and he's not at a hookah bar.
That's America . . . at a college party in SC . . . and that's weed good ol' Mikey's huffin.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 09:00 PM
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30. Phelps looks like an ironing board from the side...
This guy is beefy.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 09:05 PM
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31. So long as he pissed clean, who cares?
The real story: Phelps becomes one of the greatest athletes in the history of sport, disproving the claim that pot is a terrible, harmful drug.
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 09:07 PM
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32. SO? AND?
Who the crispy, crunchy friend fried bucket o'thighs cares? :shrug: As long as he wasn't driving, operating heavy equipment or no innocents were exposed to a contact high, I frankly don't care.
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time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 09:22 PM
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35. You not caring doesn't make it a non-issue.
He could become ineligible for 2012 and lose all his marketing value.

Lot's of people don't care about that either, I imagine, but lots of people do.
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:07 PM
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47. The two things are really not related in my mind and it is simply
Edited on Sat Jan-31-09 10:08 PM by Ecumenist
my opinion. The hypocrisy of the the world of marketing is just that. As I said, who the heezy, IN THE REAL WORLD, cares and what does it matter? BTW, I am a Christian AND GUESS What? I've never smoked weed but I see nothing wrong with it. Frankly, I find that tobacco is a lot more dangerous than cannabis and considering that the News of the World isn't exactly what I would characterise as the most credible source, it's most likely a moot point.
Welcome to DU. btw...
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time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:40 PM
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59. I have some understanding of the media and the law surrounding it
If this was not a true story there would be no quote from a spokesman for Phelp's marketing agency.

News of the World or not, it looks like a credible story to me.

And you're probably right...besides Phelp's and those around him the fact that his marketing value has fallen will matter little.

On the point of him becoming ineligible to compete in 2012 (if that is the case) many people in the real world of America probably do care. A lot of Americans take pride in his accomplishment, and will be greatly disappointed if he can't compete.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:10 PM
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49. It is a big issue that our country would destroy a person's career over something so minor.
The issue is that insanity of our country's insane view of drugs, it is not Phelps who did anything wrong it is the people who try to destroy the lives of people who just want to enjoy themselves. Phelps did nothing to harm anyone else, but now there are all kinds of people who want to harm him. That is the real issue, the allegations that he smoked pot should not be an issue with any reasonable person. Unfortunately there are a lot of unreasonable people out there who have no problem destroying people's careers so they can proclaim how moral they are.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:47 AM
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82. Lots of people care about his marketing value?
Why?
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time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 01:09 AM
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84. Lots of people would care about him being ineligible for 2012.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 08:25 AM
Response to Reply #84
107. That's true, I guess
But it's only one of the two claims you made.
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 09:15 PM
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34. it's him
During his time off, he gained weight... Here's a photo of Phelps w/ the same watch:



Not like I care if he was or wasn't, but it's too bad because many other will care and it will hurt him financially and perhaps with a 2012 Olympic bid.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 09:42 PM
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36. If only he had gotten himself into a drunken stupor and engaged in a group orgy
Tabloids would have still put that on their front page, but the story would have disappeared within a few days. No, because this one involves the EVILS OF REEFER MADNESS, they have to try and destroy this young man's career.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:41 AM
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106. Alcohol and orgies aren't illegal.
Both can do more damage to you than a single bong hit can (STDs) but the fact remains that it's illegal and that's why a giant deal's being made.

Decriminalize recreational drugs and control them, and this would be an afterthought.

Something tells me all the PSA's he's going to have to give as a result of this isn't going to stop him from doing it again and again anyway . . .
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Titonwan Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 09:46 PM
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37. Pot is NOT a performance enhancing drug
so they should leave him the hell alone. What a sad world when you can be torn down by partying a little. I think Mr. Phelps ought to jump on the N.O.R.M.L. bandwagon and get this shit straightened out. Pot's better than tobacco any day. FAR better than booze.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 09:50 PM
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38. Looks like he's blowing bubbles to me
I didn't see nothing.
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change_notfinetuning Donating Member (750 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 09:56 PM
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42. Weedies - Breakfast of Champions n/t
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:04 PM
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44. lol
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:06 PM
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151. LMAO! Weedies...ROFLMA!
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 02:49 AM
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184. LOL!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:07 PM
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46. That doesn't really look like him.
But who knows.
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:07 PM
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48. That's tobacco. I can smell it from here.
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:15 PM
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67. lol
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:13 PM
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50. If had been allowed to smoke weed during the Olympics
he would have gotten 20 gold medals. Therein lies the true injustice.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:21 PM
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52. perhaps he wishes to be free of the TYRANNY of competitive swimming and
wishes to lead a real life now that he has his reward for being poster boy for US Swimming and the USA in general. He's earned it all
and deserves to retire.

if it is him at all actually

Msongs
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:27 PM
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53. OMG! Anyone would think he was a... a... TEENAGER!! n/t
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 04:35 PM
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159. INORITE
What about the chillllllllldren?!

(who are also smoking weed)
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:34 PM
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55. It could be tobacco
But the Dell dude lost his contract when he was exposed for smokin the bud. Phelps makes more money from sponsors and this doesn't help.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:13 AM
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73. ...... or even opium!
Why is everybody so down on bong pipes anyway :shrug:
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:31 PM
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179. or peyote.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:36 PM
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57. Yawn...
"teenager goes to party". I can't say its even news from a "fallen role model" perspective. The media needs to grow up, and people should help it. This story is just a stupid sideshow.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:45 PM
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60. Um, let me see if I've got this straight. My Bawlmer homie might be stuck at a lousy 14 gold medals?
Of all the lousy, rotten, lowdown things they could do to a guy...

...oh, screw it, pass the :smoke: ...
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deepplaya Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:36 PM
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68. Jail the useless voyeur that took the photo!
So what....
What I would be interested in knowing is how many kids at
that party were on Antidepressants? 
or 
How about Mr Phelps's grades? 
Is he doing well enough in class to compete in sports?

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IADEMO2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:32 AM
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149. 2nd that!! useless squealer wannabe
Only do bud with buds, never with losers with cameras
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 11:41 PM
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70. Seems the best we could hope for is this doesn't hurt Michael's career or his swimming
and it helps ease some of the hysteria about the weed.



B-)
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Tafiti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:12 AM
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71. All I have to say is...
FUCK the guy or gal who took this photo and sold it to News of the World. That's enough bad karma to last a lifetime. Hope it comes back on that asshole tenfold.




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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:23 AM
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77. Dumbass...
yeah yeah, but shouldn't be illegal, but it IS and getting caught with it when you are expected to be drug free makes you an idiot.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:27 AM
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78. I don't see anything that would identify him as Phelps 100%...
...could be anyone.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:31 AM
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79. I don't see any otpa, either.
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:03 PM
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131. Well now. Recent events have certainly change things a bit for Mr. Phelps.
Oooops!
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 05:04 AM
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136. I understand he had severe ADHD and swimming has
basically saved him. I was concerned after he won all the metals and told my husband "if he falls in the adoring, give you anything hanger on crowd, he could be in trouble". We have a son who is the same and while Michael is a fantastic athlete, ADHD as we all know causes judgment problems, social problems and the like. Add to that people throwing themselves at him and it adds up to trouble. I'm sorry to see this and I hope he gets someone like a minder to keep an eye on him.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 01:34 AM
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85. "The glass pipes are generally used to smoke cannabis". GENERALLY
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 02:12 AM
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86. One can smoke tobacco from bongs, also. Btw, when is pot going to be made legal?
Majorities in America support legalizing pot. It's a waste of money, especially in the a depression. And it might cost America a whole lot of Gold Medals at the next Olympics, in addition to being caught with the stuff (not using the stuff, however) having a possibility of ruining your life forever.
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leapinggnome Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:19 AM
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90. I have to say this...
Consider the source of this picture and article. These are the same kind fo folks who claim that Bill Clinton fathered an alien, that Elvis is alive and living with Marilyn Monroe or that there's a creature known as Bat Boy.

It looks like a hack job to me. And News of the World is a rag.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:59 AM
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91. AWESOME!
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 04:07 AM
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92. Rec all ya want, It's not him - doesn't look like him or his ear (check out the photo in the thread)
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BobRossi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 05:59 AM
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95. Respiratory therapy.
It's a proven fact that huffing bongs makes the lungs stronger. ><
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 06:47 AM
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97. Michael, Michael, Michael, you stupid, young boy.
Remember the endorsement millions you used to have?
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 06:59 AM
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99. Priorities! Duuuude!
Don't need no stinking gold. Oh. THAT GOLD!
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:05 AM
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100. What an idiot. Why is it when people achieve great success
they rush headlong to destroy it? He's young, but it looks like he is probably finished. What a shame.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:32 PM
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155. finished? for smoking pot? You can't be serious.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 05:26 PM
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164. It depends on how his sponsors who have paid him a great
deal of money view it. Yes it could destroy a career. I hope not.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:18 AM
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102. oops
Edited on Sun Feb-01-09 07:20 AM by Why Syzygy
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 08:40 AM
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109. Unless he has a hot urine test, tehre is NO PROOF THAT IS POT
Even if we all know it actually is. Tobacco can be smoked in water pipes, which is why you can legally buy them (just like rolling papers).

I will say he's an idiot for smoking ANYTHING if he still wants to swim at an elite level, and for smoking in front of people he doesn't know and trust 100%.

Stupid all around -- pot needs to eb decriminalized, anyway.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:32 AM
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110. oh for pete's sake....
Aren't there any IMPORTANT stories for the press to focus on? Sheesh.
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 11:22 AM
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112. When I swam in college in
the very late 60s we were all pretty stoned for some of the meets. Of course, we were a D3 team and we mediocre at best. From my own experience of swimmers, and it is only my own anecdotal stuff, swimmers tended to be stoners.
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 11:43 AM
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113. watch the press be all over this
and rush did much much worse regarding drugs and was given a pass, to the point of illegal activities were forgiven.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:06 PM
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117. Photo of Michael Phelps smoking pot? He says it's him
TAMPA, Fla. -- Olympic great Michael Phelps has acknowledged "regrettable" behavior and "bad judgment" after a photo in a British newspaper showed him smoking marijuana.

News of the World, a British tabloid, posted a picture with an accompanying story today that the publication says shows the 14-time Olympic gold medalist taking a hit from a bong at a college party at the University of South Carolina in Columbia. The article's headline: WHAT A DOPE.

The article said that the photo was taken last November during a visit by Phelps to the campus to visit a girl he had been seeing. It also said that Phelps, described as "loud" and "obnoxious" by students, spent much of his time there partying.

The story also said the Phelps' representatives "went into a panic over our story and offered us a raft of extraordinary incentives not to run the bong picture."

In a statement released to The Associated Press, the swimmer who won a record eight gold medals at the Beijing Games conceded the authenticity of the exclusive picture.

Phelps said: "I engaged in behavior which was regrettable and demonstrated bad judgment. I'm 23 years old and despite the successes I've had in the pool, I acted in a youthful and inappropriate way, not in a manner people have come to expect from me. For this, I am sorry. I promise my fans and the public it will not happen again."

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/02/michael-phel...
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 12:29 PM
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118. The statement of guilt was a mistake...
...because he need not have made ANY statement and the paper would have had a hell of a time testing a photograph for THC...

"I was kidding around and posing with the pipe."

"I love the smooth flavor of Borkum Riff."

"They told me it was an herbal treatment"

Let's see the paper prove any of the above was false given only a photo...
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ozu Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 03:13 PM
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120. I bet Roor is pretty happy
with the unintentional endorsement of their hardware.

:)
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 07:25 PM
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129. let the young man be. he did great, let him enjoy the down time.
such a non-issue. :eyes:
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 09:58 PM
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130. Not when he's a role model for kids
It's definitely an issue.

And I suppose you didn't think it was an issue when he got picked up for DUI 4-5 years ago, either?

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-01-09 10:05 PM
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133. Well, that's a typical leap.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:23 AM
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139. Nobody asks to be a "role model"
How many people in this countty have tried pot? and will whether this guy does or not?

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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 08:31 AM
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144. He never claimed to be a role model for kids.
He trained, he swam, he won. That's all he did.



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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:33 PM
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156. And who would be a good role model for kids?
Generals who send people to slaughter in wars?
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 04:36 PM
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160. PRO TIP
Those kids are also smoking weed.

Right now.

:smoke:
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:34 PM
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166. lol, good one
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EndersDame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 05:11 PM
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163. I think the DUI is a huge issue and the only issue
what is a little pot smoking (as long as he had a ride home)compared to endangering people
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:40 PM
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169. Kids shouldn't smoke... until they're 18.
"role model" - he's a better role model for ignoring a bullshit law against a beneficial plant than you are for calling him a bad role model for using it!

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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:58 PM
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171. He just proved to millions of kids that pot doesn't make you into an unmotivated loser.
Is THAT what you're angry about?

He won eight gold medals. AND he smokes weed.

I can't think of a worse moment for the anti-pot types. He just destroyed ever last pot myth there ever was.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 01:07 AM
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135. So what?
You people are shoddy drama queens. He didn't get caught. Someone took a picture. Wonder who that ahole was? A parasite?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:22 AM
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138. Oh for crying out loud
If he swims the fastest, he gets the medal. This isn't steroids.

Geez, do people have nothing better to do?
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:10 AM
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140. A pot smoker? And yet he can still dive? But the War on Drugs people told me that pot ruins you...
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:17 AM
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142. he better hope
the pool has water in it, wouldn't want to end up like that chick in the 80s anti drug PSA.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:16 AM
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141. Firstly, News of the World is probably THE most unreliable British scandal-sheet ..
against lots of competition! It's probably a fairly close equivalent of the 'National Enquirer', but even less intellectual! We call it the News of the Screws.

Secondly, with all the unhealthy things people do in life, I can never understand how worked up some people get about cannabis.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 08:36 AM
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145. Big f***ing deal.
He tested clean at the Olympics, what he does afterwards is his own business.

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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 01:14 PM
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150. That looks like one of those penis enlargers
While he's 'fessing up he might as well spill it all.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 02:29 PM
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152. Lol. Proof that pot is harmless. Give me a break with the false hysteria.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 04:34 PM
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158. OH NOEZ
NOT THE DEVIL WEED!



Seriously, what a bullshit non story. Shit it just makes me like him more.
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kiranon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 04:54 PM
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161. There is a naivete about him. Anyone else think he was set up and
did not realize he would be photographed? He doesn't seem quite typical to me and perhaps is not that socially adept? Wondering.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:35 PM
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167. He should have chosen a joint. I don't think he realized how freaked everyone would be.
At least then they'd just think it may be a cigarette, especially since he was in Englan where many roll their own cigs anyway.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:29 PM
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172. Dumb. If it where the average person I would say so what, but since he's
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 07:30 PM by superconnected
an olympic champion that is very press worthy, my opinion is dumb, very dumb.

Congratulations on imploding your career mr. phelps. I don't think your family or coach deserves this.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:33 PM
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173. Hey, that doesn't actually look like a bong, are you guys sure it isn't 1. that tea stuff
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 07:34 PM by superconnected
people were taking by bong - I'll try to think of the weird name for that health craze people have been doing the last few years, or 2. that that's not some sort of breath test he's breathing into?
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:40 PM
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175. There are other things on peoples minds than this
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:50 PM
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176. Why would this destroy his career? The PRESIDENT OF THE US did drugs.
How's his career goin?
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 01:21 AM
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183. He is very young and hasn't had a chance to grow through that phase yet.
Most people go through a little of that during their freshman year of college and quickly grow out of it. He has clearly been too focused until now. This is probably about the first time he has had the chance to come up for air and he has some growing to do.

It does not change anything that he has accomplished and I don't see him becoming a drunk or a stoner.

Smoking a little pot when you are young is not a big deal. I have better things to do but it is not really a big deal period.


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