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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:31 PM
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Airlines Report ‘Shocking’ Plunge In Traffic
Source: Financial Times

The airline industry reported on Thursday an “unprecedented and shocking” plunge in global air cargo traffic.

Air freight accounts for 35 per cent of the value of goods traded internationally and the International Air Transport Association said traffic volumes had fallen by 22.6 per cent year-on-year in December.

Giovanni Bisignani, Iata director general, said, “there is no clearer description of the slowdown in world trade. Even in September 2001 (after the 9/11 terrorist attacks in the US), when much of the global fleet was grounded, the decline was only 13.9 per cent.”

International passenger traffic fell in December by 4.6 per cent. Iata said the drop was less dramatic than in cargo, as volumes had been supported by year-end leisure travel that had been booked in advance.

Airlines are still struggling to reduce capacity to match falling demand, however, and are flying with more empty seats. Capacity was reduced by 1.5 per cent year-on-year in December, resulting in airlines filling only 73.8 per cent of available seats, down from 76.2 per cent a year ago.

Read more: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/320fdb52-edeb-11dd-b791-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:33 PM
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1. Well, the uber-rich have all the money. Duh. nt
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:06 PM
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9. AND private jets... nt
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:12 PM
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10. And mini-kingdoms. They got it all. It's good to be king, I guess. nt
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:16 PM
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33. They may discover it's not so good to be king when your kingdom is starving.
Ask Louis XVI
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 02:07 PM
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32. I'd fly on a private jet if I had the money
Flying commericial sucks these days. When I was a child flying was an exciting and frequent experience, and we were treated with kindness and respect by the airline staff. Now it is like a broomstick ride to hell.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:33 PM
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2. file this under. .
"no one could have guessed", , along with every other foreordained conclusion that seems to shock these guys.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:42 PM
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5. that list is going to get mighty long..
Sad.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:34 PM
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3. My friend's a corporate travel agent
and there were HUGE layoffs at her company day before yesterday. :(
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:39 PM
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4. And the airlines respond by cutting services, raising ticket prices and creating new fees
Which drives away even more customers, which prompts the airlines to further cut services, raise ticket prices and add even more new fees, which drives away.... You get the picture.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 10:40 PM
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20. What drives me away.....
is all the hoops you have to jump through to get their "low fare" deals. It takes two hours just to read all the fine print and if you understand even half of the "terms and conditions" you're way ahead of me. I wish they would stop with the game playing and just state their rates.
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 07:55 PM
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6. Link To The IATA Press Release
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:04 PM
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7. Get rid of the unions
And everything will be fine.:sarcasm:
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:04 PM
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8. Can we bring back sail-powered cargo ships now?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18292644

" Welcome to the "green" age of commercial shipping. A German-made cargo ship will soon set sail, literally. The ship will be carried over the water partly by wind power.

The sails are from a German company called SkySails, and they're really more like giant parachutes. Each sail is about the size of a football field."
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 09:10 PM
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14. This is a quite interesting concept
and a 7 percent savings in fuel.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 09:30 AM
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25. I've seen those in articles! What a great idea.. the sail is like a kite
it is in front and above the ship and pulls the ship.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 08:18 AM
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29. A friend of mine is involved in development
When deployed, the kite traces a figure 8 pattern, in effect creating the wind. It is completely automated and is winched on board just prior to arrival in port.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:14 PM
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11. Our company cut travel to business critical only
If it can be handled by a teleconference or net meeting no travel. Only if the business will suffer without travel.

They also dumped the corporate jet.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:27 PM
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12. They might want to lower ticket prices for a start
And get rid of that stupid 15$ "bag fee".
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 08:39 PM
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13. drop in global air cargo traffic shows how much the world economy is in the tank... frightening
......more from another article...

“2009 is shaping up to be one of the toughest years ever for international aviation. The 22.6% drop in international cargo traffic in December puts us in un-charted territory and the bottom is nowhere in sight. Keep your seatbelts fastened and prepare for a bumpy ride and a hard landing,” said Bisignani.

http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/01/unprecedented-and-shocking-decline-in.html
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 10:05 PM
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16. It was only on a second reading that I really grokked that the focus of the article was cargo
Less personal purchasing, less corporate purchasing, less industrial purchasing. :scared:
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 09:35 AM
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27. There's also
another thing to look at - the Baltic Dry Freight index. The Index measures the cost of moving raw materials by sea in container ships. Many economists consider the index to be a good leading indicator of economic activity, because if not as many people are looking to move cargo, ships will be in less demand, causing a drop in the price that shippers can charge.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 09:42 PM
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15. Not the best choice of words when describing any situation in the airline industry.
Plunge x(
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 10:08 PM
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17. Poking through luggage, "wanding" everyone - basic invasion of any sense of privacy
.
.
.

Besides lack of meals/drinks on flights

WHO WOULDA THUNK RIDERSHIP WOULD DECLINE?

The sheeple are supposed to just keep putting up with this jackboot mentality,

right?

sorry PNACERs

your plan didn't work

oh yeah, you ripped the America taxpayers for a few trillion,

got wars going all over the place in the USA's name

BUT

did ya make any friends?

count them

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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 10:09 PM
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18. welcome news for our smog-choked skies .n/t
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 10:12 PM
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19. This is actually not that drastic...
all that the companies are doing is what was being sent as air freight (extremely expensive) is being sent by sea via container traffic (really cheap but takes time.)

A 40' container from Hong Kong to San Francisco costs $1,300 whereas the contents of the container sent by air would cost at least $11,000.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 09:18 AM
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24. When you combine a drop in air cargo traffic with a drop in container traffic
Edited on Fri Jan-30-09 09:25 AM by RedEarth
it is substantial. Demand worldwide for everything is dropping and it's reflected in both air cargo and container traffic.

U.S. Importers Decrease the Number of Imports Nearly 5% in 2008
updated 8:00 a.m. CT, Fri., Jan. 16, 2009


MINNEAPOLIS, MN - Container traffic decreased 4.7% in 2008; however the most significant decline was felt in the 4th Quarter at 7.3%. Shipping traffic decreased every month except one when compared to 2007. Total shipments for 2008 are the lowest since 2005 according to Zepol's U.S. Customs database.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28694731/

......more from another article...

“2009 is shaping up to be one of the toughest years ever for international aviation. The 22.6% drop in international cargo traffic in December puts us in un-charted territory and the bottom is nowhere in sight. Keep your seatbelts fastened and prepare for a bumpy ride and a hard landing,” said Bisignani.

http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/01/unprecedented-and-shocking-decline-in.html

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busybl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 10:46 PM
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21. lets see,
they treat passengers like downer cattle, treat them like criminals, feed them 2 year old "snacks" and can't figure out why nobody wants to fly. Hmmm
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 11:28 PM
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22. Coming home from Canada...
My flights to Salt Lake City (Delta) or San Francisco (United) are usually packed - the connecting flights to Orange County are getting a little light.

I hope Delta and United stick around at John Wayne Airport - I fucking hate LAX.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 07:38 AM
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23. Uh...folks? This is air CARGO.
And this is NOT a good indication for the world economy.
I flew for Nippon Cargo Airlines in the 80s and 90s when they were doing very well.
They're struggling to hang on now.
Recently closed their New York operations.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 09:33 AM
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26. All the more reason for the high speed train infrastructures
Edited on Fri Jan-30-09 09:33 AM by lunatica
Let's hope they can build them before we sink into a third world economy
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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-30-09 10:16 AM
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28. Nationalize them.
Really. Other countries have done it!
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 12:18 PM
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30. Next up on the Bailout gravy train!!
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 01:08 PM
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31. Yep--and they got bailed out after 911, too.
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 06:03 PM
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34. But, but, but, the executives made record profits and bonuses for "bringing the industry out of
bankruptcy" -- slimeballs.
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