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Bush, Rumsfeld should be pursued for torture: UN rapporteur

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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Jan-20-09 02:58 PM
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Bush, Rumsfeld should be pursued for torture: UN rapporteurUpdated at 4:18 PM
Source: AFP

BERLIN (AFP) — The UN's special torture rapporteur called on the US Tuesday to pursue former president George W. Bush and defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld for torture and bad treatment of Guantanamo prisoners.

"Judicially speaking, the United States has a clear obligation" to bring proceedings against Bush and Rumsfeld, the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Torture Manfred Nowak said, in remarks to be broadcast on Germany's ZDF television Tuesday evening.

He noted Washington had ratified the UN convention on torture which required "all means, particularly penal law" to be used to bring proceedings against those violating it.

"We have all these documents that are now publicly available that prove that these methods of interrogation were intentionally ordered by Rumsfeld," against detainees at the US prison facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, Nowak said.

"But obviously the highest authorities in the United States were aware of this," added Nowak, who authored a UN investigation report on the Guantanamo prison.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jEs-...
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   'bout fucking time  Solly Mack   Jan-20-09 03:01 PM   #1 
   'bout fucking time  Vincardog   Jan-20-09 03:03 PM   #2 
   I thought I had double posted for a second there  Solly Mack   Jan-20-09 03:05 PM   #3 
      No you just said it all.  Vincardog   Jan-20-09 03:13 PM   #7 
   I think that language means that if we don't do anything about it...  htuttle   Jan-20-09 03:06 PM   #4 
   'bout fucking time  blackops   Jan-20-09 03:06 PM   # 
   K&R YES!!!!!!!!!! nt  snappyturtle   Jan-20-09 03:06 PM   #5 
   K&R.  blackops   Jan-20-09 03:08 PM   #6 
   Don't let Cheney off the hook! n/t  proReality   Jan-20-09 03:15 PM   #8 
   I had a theory that Obama was playing coy about prosecuting  Bette Noir   Jan-20-09 03:30 PM   #9 
   Same here, Bette. I have "prayed" that he's been playing his cards  vickiss   Jan-20-09 06:46 PM   #12 
   Yes nt  kenichol   Jan-20-09 04:41 PM   #10 
   Welcome on this historic day, kenichol!  vickiss   Jan-20-09 06:47 PM   #13 
   please oh please oh please oh please...  Soilent Brice   Jan-20-09 04:57 PM   #11 
   don't forget that rolling corpse  northernlights   Jan-20-09 07:30 PM   #14 
   boutus fucki timus  Titonwan   Jan-20-09 07:46 PM   #15 
   I hope he feels the walls starting to close in on him.  Usrename   Jan-21-09 12:19 AM   #16 
   Our international credibility is still at stake  struggle4progress   Jan-21-09 02:14 AM   #17 
 
Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Jan-20-09 03:01 PM
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1. 'bout fucking time
Edited on Tue Jan-20-09 03:03 PM by Solly Mack
"Judicially speaking, the United States has a clear obligation" to bring proceedings against Bush and Rumsfeld"
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Jan-20-09 03:03 PM
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2.  'bout fucking time
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Jan-20-09 03:05 PM
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3. I thought I had double posted for a second there
:)
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Jan-20-09 03:13 PM
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7. No you just said it all.
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-20-09 03:06 PM
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4. I think that language means that if we don't do anything about it...
...it would fall into the realm of being prosecutable by the International Criminal Court in The Hague.

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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Jan-20-09 03:06 PM
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'bout fucking time
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-20-09 03:06 PM
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5. K&R YES!!!!!!!!!! nt
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Jan-20-09 03:08 PM
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6. K&R.
The caption says "Ronald Rumsfeld".
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proReality Donating Member (722 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-20-09 03:15 PM
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8. Don't let Cheney off the hook! n/t
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Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-20-09 03:30 PM
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9. I had a theory that Obama was playing coy about prosecuting
in order not to inspire Bush to issue pre-emptive pardons. I hope I was right.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-20-09 06:46 PM
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12. Same here, Bette. I have "prayed" that he's been playing his cards
close to the vest.

President Obama, OMG that felt great to type!, is a brilliant man, an amazing human being and a Constitutional lawyer, exactly the type of man we needed now! :woohoo:

Hope springs, finally, in my heart! :hug: :fistbump: :hi: :toast:
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kenichol (87 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-20-09 04:41 PM
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10. Yes nt
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-20-09 06:47 PM
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13. Welcome on this historic day, kenichol!
What a beautiful day! :hi:
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-20-09 04:57 PM
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11. please oh please oh please oh please...
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-20-09 07:30 PM
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14. don't forget that rolling corpse
cheney!

Obama said Holder will follow the facts where they take him.

We know the facts. We know where they lead. And a smart person doesn't announce to a criminal that they intend to pursue...they just quietly follow the trail until the time is right...
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Titonwan (232 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-20-09 07:46 PM
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15. boutus fucki timus
I thought I'd get all latin like (home made latin, kinda like road runner (fastus kickassus). Dick Cheney too. ALL of them, as a matter of fact.
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jan-21-09 12:19 AM
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16. I hope he feels the walls starting to close in on him.
He probably doesn't, he's so ignorant.

:grr:
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17. Our international credibility is still at stake
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