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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Jan-13-09 10:39 PM
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Evidence in Terror Cases Said to Be in ChaosUpdated at 3:48 PM
Edited on Tue Jan-13-09 10:44 PM by cal04
Source: Washington Post

Military Officials Reject Ex-Prosecutor's Charges

A former military prosecutor said in a declaration filed in federal court yesterday that the system of handling evidence against detainees at Guantanamo Bay was so chaotic that it was impossible to prepare a fair and successful prosecution.

Darrel Vandeveld, a former lieutenant colonel in the Army Reserve, filed the declaration in support of a petition seeking the release of Mohammed Jawad, an Afghan who has been held at the military prison for six years. Jawad was a juvenile when he was detained in Kabul in 2002 after a grenade attack that severely wounded two U.S. Special Forces soldiers and their interpreter.

Vandeveld, who has served in Iraq and Afghanistan, was the lead prosecutor against Jawad until he asked to be relieved of his duties last year, citing a crisis of conscience. He said the case has been riddled with problems, including alleged physical and psychological abuse of Jawad by Afghan police and the U.S. military, as well as reliance on evidence that was later found to be missing, false or unreliable.

Vandeveld said in a phone interview that the "complete lack of organization" affected nearly all cases at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The evidence is often so disorganized, he said, "it was like a stash of documents found in a village in a raid and just put on a plane to the U.S. Not even rudimentary organization by date or name."

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
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   they prolly only documented the confessions in of the TORTURE interigations  okiru109   Jan-13-09 10:41 PM   #1 
   This is no joke  seemslikeadream   Jan-13-09 10:46 PM   #3 
      you know they are sweating it...  okiru109   Jan-14-09 10:23 AM   #14 
   What? There was evidence?  nothingtoofear   Jan-13-09 10:45 PM   #2 
   George Bush is looking under his desk...  stillcool47   Jan-13-09 10:51 PM   #6 
      Oh, I thought he was looking for Lincoln's gold.  nothingtoofear   Jan-13-09 10:52 PM   #7 
   Yet another reason why "habeas corpus" serves both the defense *and* the prosecution. . .  Journeyman   Jan-13-09 10:46 PM   #4 
   This is one of the complete disasters that Bush is dropping in Obama's lap. A complete and total  Pirate Smile   Jan-13-09 10:47 PM   #5 
   No physical evidence?????  aquart   Jan-13-09 11:09 PM   #9 
   The term "Kangaroo Court" sure seems to apply here n/t  sce56   Jan-14-09 12:43 AM   #11 
   They should either let them go  BecauseBushSaysSo   Jan-13-09 11:01 PM   #8 
   This is because they never expected there to be any real "prosecutions"  PSPS   Jan-13-09 11:12 PM   #10 
   Oops, nobody is supposed to go there.  bottomtheweaver   Jan-14-09 12:48 AM   #12 
   K&R n/t  slipslidingaway   Jan-14-09 09:47 AM   #13 
   K&R  okiru109   Jan-14-09 09:06 PM   #15 
   republicon fail freaks...pathetic  SpiralHawk   Jan-15-09 06:42 AM   #16 
 
okiru109 (135 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-13-09 10:41 PM
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1. they prolly only documented the confessions in of the TORTURE interigations
Edited on Tue Jan-13-09 10:43 PM by okiru109
and that ain't good anymore with the evil doers on their way out :evilgrin:
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seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-13-09 10:46 PM
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3. This is no joke
Edited on Tue Jan-13-09 10:48 PM by seemslikeadream
sorry I didn't mean to say that to you. It is just a general statement from georgie


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okiru109 (135 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jan-14-09 10:23 AM
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14. you know they are sweating it...
i hope the dems have all their ducks lined up
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-13-09 10:45 PM
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2. What? There was evidence?
:shrug:
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stillcool (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-13-09 10:51 PM
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6. George Bush is looking under his desk...
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-13-09 10:52 PM
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7. Oh, I thought he was looking for Lincoln's gold.
:banghead:
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-13-09 10:46 PM
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4. Yet another reason why "habeas corpus" serves both the defense *and* the prosecution. . .
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Tue Jan-13-09 10:47 PM
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5. This is one of the complete disasters that Bush is dropping in Obama's lap. A complete and total
FUBAR/Cluster F#$k for any court to deal with in responsible way.

"Vandeveld said in a phone interview that the "complete lack of organization" affected nearly all cases at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The evidence is often so disorganized, he said, "it was like a stash of documents found in a village in a raid and just put on a plane to the U.S. Not even rudimentary organization by date or name."

....
He said the evidence was scattered throughout databases, in desk drawers, in vaguely labeled containers or "simply piled on the tops of desks" of departed prosecutors.

"I further discovered that most physical evidence that had been collected had either disappeared" or had been stored in unknown locations,
he said."

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-13-09 11:09 PM
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9. No physical evidence?????
Am I the only one who sees a false arrest lawsuit?
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jan-14-09 12:43 AM
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11. The term "Kangaroo Court" sure seems to apply here n/t
Edited on Wed Jan-14-09 12:44 AM by sce56
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-13-09 11:01 PM
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8. They should either let them go
Or have Bush/Cheney pay for their legal costs with "Our" their own money.
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PSPS (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Jan-13-09 11:12 PM
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10. This is because they never expected there to be any real "prosecutions"
The idea, which was successful to a disgusting degree, was to simply hold them for the duration of their lives. Of course, many had their lives shortened considerably when we tortured them to death. But I'm sure they taped it so bush could watch it with his hand pumping his dick.
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bottomtheweaver (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jan-14-09 12:48 AM
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12. Oops, nobody is supposed to go there.
Looks like somebody goofed at the ministry of propaganda, I mean the DHS.
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13. K&R n/tUpdated at 3:54 PM
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okiru109 (135 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jan-14-09 09:06 PM
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15. K&R
The neoCONs better be shaking in their boots in anticipation of the inevitable shit-storm gathering on the horizon and headed their way.
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16. republicon fail freaks...pathetic
just pathetic...can't do anything properly...
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