Judge hands loss to White House on visitors logs

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge on Friday rejected the Bush administration's latest attempt to keep secret the identities of White House visitors and declared that it engaged in illegal record-keeping practices.

U.S. District Judge Royce Lamberth concluded that the practices in dispute took place before October 2004 when the Secret Service transferred large numbers of entry and exit logs to the White House and then deleted internal Secret Service copies of them.

The practices ended, the judge said, after various private organizations went to court in an effort to gain access to the logs.

Lamberth's ruling brushed aside the government's argument that revealing Secret Service logs would impede the president's ability to perform his constitutional duties.

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We should have fire marshalls at the ready in DC until they leave!

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/19/eob.fire/index.h...

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Firefighters quickly doused a two-alarm fire Wednesday in the historic Eisenhower Executive Office Building, which houses the vice president's ceremonial offices and the majority of the White House staff.

They must've overloaded the fuses.

They may be the slickest bunch of white-collar criminals the nation has ever seen.

Of course, enough of them were involved with the Nixon administration to have learned important lessons from those who didn't get away with their crimes.

I always thought "white-collar" referred to business crimes like embezzlement and fraud.

of people committing the crimes.

Now the records are "lost".

at the White House. Was it Rove? Cheney? or some other person in the WH? Condi or lower level that he had so much "stay overnight status." :shrug:

would "impede the president's ability to perform his constitutional duties."

yea, Probably...

it was more relevant to abramoff

Constitution? From torture, rendition, spying, stealing, visitor lists?

Jeff Gannon is Jeff Gosh, and try to untangle the Larry King thing.

...I don't remember his name.

right wing offshoot of an ultra conservative entity who paid the bills for this 'journalist without a degree' That guy? If yes, - the initials are JG

He liked to lie and pretend he was military, like so many of those in the republicon 'leadership' Gannon never served the USA in the military for even 5 minutes, he simply served the Bush-Republicon White House.

"he simply served the Bush-Republicon White House."

did you mean served or serviced?

what DIDN'T they do that wasn't illegal? :shrug:

to the White House, and we further reserve the right to keep our White House visitor list secret..."

Typical repuke hypocrisy.

Who could it be that they're so embarrassed to admitting they met with? Ken Lay? Somebody bin Laden? Taliban representatives? All of the above?

That sounds like a Judge telling the Justice Department to file criminal charges following a Grand Jury investigation. Obviously nothing will happen until after January 20th, but will a new Justice Department take heed of this Judge's declaration and do something?

Still...one has to have hope.

Has anyone here ever Googled the "Finders?:" Pretty incredibile.Anyhoo,on the subject at hand ,the issue of Gannon and cheerleaders... Rah,rah,sis boom bah-------WHO was BOTH a cheerleader -AND-Prez of US ?????

did he ever submit to a test, like he said on the teevee that he would?

And get a clue as to the make-up of Cheney's "energy task force". . .

If all crimes (past, present and future) warrant time in prison as it does to any other citizen.

After Jan. 20th, I mean.

those records seem to have been lost. Permanently. Trust us, we will never, ever manage to find them."

I hate to be pessimistic, but I doubt anything will ever come of this.

Cheney is probably standing by to burn them . . ..	defendandprotect	Jan-09-09 03:03 PM	#1
He already did. Remember the fire?	Lochloosa	Jan-09-09 03:24 PM	#8
Did the shredders start the fire?	Blaq Dem	Jan-09-09 03:34 PM	#10
The bad wiring was a convenient excuse.	GoddessOfGuinness	Jan-09-09 05:06 PM	#18
Since when do "treason" and "unconstitutional acts" fall under the umbrella of "white-collar crime"?	DCKit	Jan-09-09 05:44 PM	#19
I suppose the definition has expanded. It used to refer to the class	GoddessOfGuinness	Jan-09-09 06:09 PM	#20
He must have done it during the appeal.	madeline_con	Jan-09-09 07:35 PM	#26
You ask for a Fire Marshall, here ya go...	awoke_in_2003	Jan-09-09 03:48 PM	#15
Did this blocking of visitors start right after the question about visits by Jeff Gannon?	higher class	Jan-09-09 03:03 PM	#2
The Gannon kerfuffle was after October of 2004	SharonRB	Jan-09-09 03:05 PM	#5
After all these years we still don't know who Gannon was "servicing" in his "stay at homes"	KoKo01	Jan-09-09 07:35 PM	#27
"That's none of your business. Smirk." - Laura B.	SpiralHawk	Jan-10-09 07:25 AM	#38
So logs of overnight WH stays of a known "Gay Man-Whore" ..	mackdaddy	Jan-09-09 03:35 PM	#11
iirc	barbtries	Jan-09-09 07:06 PM	#22
Uh-oh. Time for Cheney to set another fire in the Executive Office Building? n/t	RufusTFirefly	Jan-09-09 03:03 PM	#3
How to you equate a sex lie with all the ways this regime has gone against the	higher class	Jan-09-09 03:05 PM	#4
You investigate whether or not	PDJane	Jan-09-09 03:20 PM	#7
Don't forget about that gay hooker (aka reporter)...	santamargarita	Jan-09-09 04:43 PM	#17
You mean the gay, military, bald, night service, White House correspondent for Talon - an extremely	higher class	Jan-09-09 08:31 PM	#29
Looks like Joe the Plumber?	MNBrewer	Jan-09-09 10:43 PM	#35
Gannon was not military. He is a republicon CHICKENHAWK thru and thru	SpiralHawk	Jan-10-09 07:27 AM	#39
clarification ?	sunnystarr	Jan-10-09 10:34 AM	#43
kick	Sees Clearly	Jan-09-09 03:15 PM	#6
Thank heaven for small favors. Meanwhile, they've already destroyed most of their records.	No Elephants	Jan-09-09 03:34 PM	#9
Wasn't there a story that Cheney had a shredder service once a week at his home?	defendandprotect	Jan-09-09 03:36 PM	#12
This shredder truck?	Pastiche423	Jan-09-09 03:50 PM	#16
Thought I remembered something like that . . .	defendandprotect	Jan-10-09 02:05 AM	#36
They've destroyed hard drives, too. Ooops!	No Elephants	Jan-10-09 06:59 AM	#37
the question is:	shanti	Jan-09-09 03:38 PM	#13
"We Republicans reserve the right to castigate Bill Clinton for every visitor he ever had	Aristus	Jan-09-09 03:43 PM	#14
They're still trying to keep secret who was on Cheney's energy task force	tclambert	Jan-09-09 06:10 PM	#21
so i'm guessing the 'energy task force' is on there? nt	xchrom	Jan-09-09 07:07 PM	#23
"Illegal Record Keeping"	DallasNE	Jan-09-09 07:31 PM	#24
A "bit of positive news" ...but so many of us know how this goes..it ends up nothing...	KoKo01	Jan-09-09 07:34 PM	#25
"Finders" Keepers	Jambalaya	Jan-09-09 08:30 PM	#28
Can you say Jeff "Bulldog" Gannon? n/t	mrone2	Jan-09-09 09:24 PM	#30
can you say DNA test?	mopinko	Jan-09-09 10:01 PM	#33
Can you guys believe we put up with EIGHT YEARS of these felons.	superconnected	Jan-09-09 09:28 PM	#31
Yay!.. We'll see how many times Abramoff & Guckert/Gannon were there.	annabanana	Jan-09-09 09:47 PM	#32
Its time to place into law that the US gov't can and will arrest Former US PREZ/VPs.	goforit	Jan-09-09 10:06 PM	#34
So does that mean a FOIA request can get them released?	Canuckistanian	Jan-10-09 07:29 AM	#40
kick	The Backlash Cometh	Jan-10-09 09:11 AM	#41
"Oh, sorry, Judge, in all the confusion of moving out of the White House,	tanyev	Jan-10-09 10:20 AM	#42
Yep.	progressoid	Jan-10-09 10:36 AM	#44