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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:31 PM
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NY TIMES: U.S. has plans if Mexican drug violence crosses border
Source: NY Times

NY TIMES: U.S. has plans if Mexican drug violence crosses border

Posted: Jan 8, 2009 12:40 PM CST
Updated: Jan 8, 2009 12:41 PM CST

The U.S. has plans for a surge in civilian law enforcement if the drug violence in Mexico spreads across the border, outgoing Homeland Security Security Michael Chertoff told the New York Times.

The New York Times article says that the plan called for "aircraft, armored vehicles and special teams" to respond to any incursions in the U.S., with possible military involvement if Border Patrol and local law enforcement agencies were not able to handle the violence, according to Homeland Security officials.

Chertoff said the plan was put in place last summer. The plan has not been publicly announced or debated, according to the New York Times.

"That's another reason, frankly, why I have been insistent on putting in the infrastructure and fencing and stuff like that. Because I don't want, God forbid, if there is ever a spillover of significance, to have denied the Border Patrol anything they need to protect the lives and safety of American citizens," Chertoff says in the article.





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Mexico drug war likely to intensify
Drug-related violence in Mexico, already at unprecedented levels, is expected to escalate further this year, with targets likely to include top Mexican politicians and law-enforcement agents and possibly even U.S. officials, according to diplomats and intelligence experts on both sides of the border.

By Alfredo Corchado

The Dallas Morning News

WASHINGTON Drug-related violence in Mexico, already at unprecedented levels, is expected to escalate further this year, with targets likely to include top Mexican politicians and law-enforcement agents and possibly even U.S. officials, according to diplomats and intelligence experts on both sides of the border.

The warning underscores the difficult choices confronting President Felipe Caldern as he takes on drug cartels while weighing the implications of growing casualties in a year of midterm elections and a slowing economy.

It also reflects rising concern among U.S. officials and analysts about the deteriorating security situation, corruption among Mexico's top crime fighters, and the vulnerability of the military to possible corruption in battling cartel gangs.

As the war against cartels escalates in 2009, so will threats, particularly against U.S. officials and other Americans, said officials, analysts and diplomats, including U.S. Ambassador Tony Garza.

"Caldern must and will keep the pressure on the cartels, but look, let's not be nave: There will be more violence, more blood, and, yes, things will get worse before they get better. That's the nature of the battle," Garza said. "The more pressure the cartels feel, the more they'll lash out like cornered animals."

More:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/20086...
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:36 PM
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1. What the frick do they mean "if"?
Wake up you idiots. :eyes:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:38 PM
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2. Build a big wall, That'll keep 'em out!
:hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :hide: :sarcasm:
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:41 PM
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3. Shoot. Our drug violence is MUCH more violent than their drug violence.
USA #1!!!! :patriot:












Oh, BTW: :sarcasm:
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 10:22 PM
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15. Sorry.
Mexico's murder rate is far higher than ours. A lot of it is drug related.

David
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:12 AM
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16. That was a joke.
The crux of which was "how dare another country claim that they surpass us in any way?"
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 10:29 AM
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17. Gotcha.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:44 PM
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4. sounds like a build up to another war.
they'd like that. war and war on drugs. repubs must be creaming at the prospect...
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progressive_realist Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:46 PM
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5. Does the plan include deploying Chuck Norris?
Because it really should. :)
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:58 PM
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8. Nahhhh... If history serves.....
Their plan would consist of bombing civilian areas on both sides of the border with precision bombs that kills at civilian to bad guy ratio of 5:1.

That'll learn those dern drug cartels.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 09:47 PM
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14. What's he going to do, sell them a bunch of Total Gym systems?
Perhaps him and his buddy Huckabee could do an "aw shucks" tour along the border, passing out copies of "Texas Walker" on DVD.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:47 PM
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6. Now I guess we will suddenly see more violence spilling over the border.
I would like to know who ALL of the players are behind the "Mexican Drug Wars"
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:48 PM
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7. PLEASE DON"T THROW ME IN DAT BRIARPATCH, BR'ER FOX..
Please don't let that Mexican drug violence come Norte.. :eyes:
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robbibaba Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:58 PM
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9. Obama Stuns World...
by decriminalizing all drugs and swiftly moving to legalize marijuana. This unexpected move is largely seen as a ploy to undermine increasingly powerful drug Mexican drug cartels and destroy their economic base. By making marijuana cultivation and use largely legal, demand for more expensive drugs like cocaine and heroin is expected to plummet. Even as the cost of fighting the drug war declines, a surge in US tax revenues is anticipated, helping restore solvency to the US economy.

...or so I'd like to read.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 04:03 PM
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10. A "surge"??????? I feel fucking better already.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 04:24 PM
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11. Call it what it is: Prohibition-related violence.
End the drug war, stop the killing.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 04:26 PM
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12. Stop the violence! LEGALIZE
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Buenaventura Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 04:27 PM
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13. maybe the IDF will send advisors
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:14 PM
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18. So legalize marijuana already.
Jeez.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:19 PM
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19. I not a fan of Lou Dobbs, But violence on this border Is worse than Bagdad!!!
I don't agree with a wall...but I do agree with ACTION!!!
Certainly we can have a holding ward for drug lords that are supported by George Bush!
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:34 PM
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20. $1.4 billion in aid to the Mexican police and military not enough for ya?
That's what Bush and the Congress agreed to dish out over the next three years.

But that's not going to stop the drug trade or the violence. The only way to do that is to legalize and regulate the trade.
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