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Senate Approves Resolution Backing Israel in Hamas Conflict
Source: Bloomberg

Jan. 8 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Senate unanimously approved a resolution expressing support for Israel in its conflict with Hamas, while the House of Representatives prepared to act on a similar measure tomorrow.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, said the measure “expresses vigorous support” for Israel.

“The Israelis have every right to defend themselves against these acts of terrorism,” said Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

Israel is in its 13th day of military operations against the Islamic militant Hamas movement in the Gaza Strip in an effort to stop rocket attacks against southern Israeli towns.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aUh...
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   Thank you AIPAC. nt  bobd0   Jan-08-09 12:31 PM   #1 
   honestly AIPAC has little to do with it  subsuelo   Jan-08-09 01:24 PM   #24 
      bwahahahahahaha !  bstender   Jan-08-09 02:01 PM   #48 
      Stopping the oil price decline. n/t  SimpleTrend   Jan-08-09 03:41 PM   #68 
      nice of Israel to help out!  bstender   Jan-08-09 03:58 PM   #74 
      war.  elleng   Jan-08-09 11:13 PM   #114 
      well, they certainly seem to be grateful...  stephinrome   Jan-08-09 02:44 PM   #64 
      AIPAC had nothing to do with this?  TOJ   Jan-08-09 07:24 PM   # 
      While I would use different terminology...  LeftishBrit   Jan-10-09 11:28 AM   #162 
   that should help  bstender   Jan-08-09 12:33 PM   #2 
   as victims of the worst terror groups in the world?  subsuelo   Jan-08-09 01:25 PM   #25 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-08-09 02:15 PM   #56 
   there you go. in fact, let's add cuba, mexico, half of so amer, france, africa, middle east,.....  proud progressive   Jan-08-09 01:53 PM   #41 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-08-09 03:47 PM   #72 
   Have a Superiority Complex,eh?  goforit   Jan-08-09 06:54 PM   #92 
   sarcasm?  fascisthunter   Jan-08-09 07:02 PM   #95 
      sarcasm, yes. i posted that already  bstender   Jan-08-09 08:32 PM   #109 
         lol... I at first thought you were serious  fascisthunter   Jan-10-09 09:47 AM   #158 
            phew  bstender   Jan-10-09 01:04 PM   #163 
   So the Senate approves of attacks on UN convoys...  Kristi1696   Jan-08-09 12:33 PM   #3 
   Yes, a big thumbs up to bombing children and to terrorism, generally  subsuelo   Jan-08-09 01:25 PM   #27 
   And the House tomorrow.  elleng   Jan-08-09 11:17 PM   #115 
      CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE TODAY.  No Elephants   Jan-09-09 01:09 PM   #135 
   It appears the "Bush Doctrine" will be with us for a little while longer...  KansDem   Jan-08-09 12:34 PM   #4 
   Obama better not be going along with this shit, once he gets in there  subsuelo   Jan-08-09 01:35 PM   #37 
      Bye!  ellisonz   Jan-09-09 05:55 AM   #119 
      Peace will come when Israelis love their children more than they covet Palestinian land..  Fumesucker   Jan-09-09 08:30 AM   #127 
         Which is way Hamas is dedicated to the extermination of the "Zionist entity"  ellisonz   Jan-09-09 04:48 PM   #141 
         Or when Hamas loves their children more than they covet Israeli land. nt  hack89   Jan-09-09 11:07 PM   #153 
         yes indeed  fascisthunter   Jan-10-09 09:54 AM   #159 
      His Secretary of State supports it  spotbird   Jan-09-09 10:15 AM   #130 
      "Obama better not..."  Window   Jan-09-09 01:13 PM   #136 
      Good riddance to you. n/t  totodeinhere   Jan-09-09 11:40 PM   #156 
   disgusting. nt  bowens43   Jan-08-09 12:35 PM   #5 
   Chickenshit enablers.  rateyes   Jan-08-09 12:37 PM   #6 
   No doubt. I think they should also pass a measure of support for Bush's handling of Katrina.  Kristi1696   Jan-08-09 12:43 PM   #7 
   It would be only fair, wouldn't it??  rateyes   Jan-08-09 01:31 PM   #31 
   What about a resolution of support for the innocent old folks in the old-age facility?  Rayander   Jan-08-09 02:00 PM   #46 
      Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-08-09 02:19 PM   #59 
      How about a resolution supporting all the innocents  rateyes   Jan-08-09 05:17 PM   #83 
   Take that "vigorous support" and shove it up your ass Harry  thewiseguy   Jan-08-09 12:44 PM   #8 
   I am truly heartbroken at this and sickened by them beyond words.  Jefferson23   Jan-08-09 12:46 PM   #9 
   Have you written your Senators and Rep?  elleng   Jan-08-09 11:24 PM   #117 
   dance for your pennies monkey congress n/t  Howardx   Jan-08-09 12:50 PM   #10 
   Senators like Ted Kennedy do not need 'pennies'  Freddie Stubbs   Jan-08-09 02:17 PM   #57 
      Yes he must  Marrah_G   Jan-08-09 03:32 PM   #66 
      Perhaps they actually thin supporting this resolution is the right thing to do  Freddie Stubbs   Jan-08-09 03:37 PM   #67 
         supporting War on Children is not the right thing to do.  subsuelo   Jan-08-09 04:30 PM   #78 
         Perhaps they view this a defensive war rather than a "War on Children"  Freddie Stubbs   Jan-08-09 05:14 PM   #82 
            No sane person paying the slightest bit of attention views it as a "defensive war"  subsuelo   Jan-08-09 06:50 PM   #90 
               Does that mean the Ted kennedy is insane?  Freddie Stubbs   Jan-08-09 06:53 PM   #91 
                  One has to wonder...  subsuelo   Jan-08-09 07:13 PM   #99 
         The 'resolution' is very careful not to say anything untoward;  elleng   Jan-08-09 11:27 PM   #118 
         And if they do, then I am very disappointed in them  Marrah_G   Jan-09-09 07:59 AM   #125 
      It was a voice vote  SOS   Jan-08-09 07:24 PM   #101 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-08-09 12:56 PM   #11 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-08-09 06:56 PM   #93 
   Repulsive.  nancyr   Jan-08-09 12:56 PM   #12 
   I am so ashamed of my country right now...  ShadesOfGrey   Jan-08-09 12:57 PM   #13 
   Partners in terrorist war crimes n/t  balantz   Jan-08-09 01:00 PM   #14 
   Exactly  subsuelo   Jan-08-09 01:27 PM   #28 
   The Greatest Foreign Policy Blunder of the 20th century...  AlbertCat   Jan-08-09 01:03 PM   #15 
   People weren't thinking straight after WWII  marshall   Jan-08-09 04:34 PM   #80 
   In all fairness, the guilt gift should have been along the banks of the Rhine  mitchum   Jan-08-09 11:19 PM   #116 
   Because the Germans were just so tolerant!  ellisonz   Jan-09-09 06:12 AM   #122 
      I don't believe the Germans were in very much of a position...  mitchum   Jan-09-09 03:09 PM   #139 
         So you would have supported the forcible removal of German familys?  ellisonz   Jan-09-09 04:50 PM   #142 
            German Nazism was driven by a crazyass mythology and fanatic nationalism  mitchum   Jan-09-09 06:12 PM   #145 
               The history of Israel-Palestine conflict is a lot more complex than that...  ellisonz   Jan-09-09 09:26 PM   #148 
                  That is true; cousins often fight...  mitchum   Jan-09-09 10:41 PM   #150 
   That's like blaming the Slaves for Jim Crow...  ellisonz   Jan-09-09 06:02 AM   #121 
      No, that would be like giving the slaves...I dunno...Egypt...instead of Louisiana  mitchum   Jan-09-09 10:43 PM   #151 
   1914.  ellisonz   Jan-09-09 05:59 AM   #120 
   Yes, obviously, much worse than two fucking WORLD WARS!!!  LeftishBrit   Jan-09-09 01:00 PM   #133 
   I'm sorry...  Turborama   Jan-08-09 01:05 PM   #16 
   What did Wright say that was factually incorrect?  No Elephants   Jan-09-09 01:13 PM   #137 
   Unanamous? That means Boxer, Feingold, Sanders, and Kerry supported this  Freddie Stubbs   Jan-08-09 01:06 PM   #17 
   Not to mention Biden and Clinton. nt  rateyes   Jan-08-09 01:32 PM   #33 
   It means that every single one of them is wrong.  The Stranger   Jan-08-09 01:32 PM   #34 
   It's Just Palestinian Lives,  NikolaC   Jan-08-09 01:55 PM   #42 
   Feingold Statement on Gaza  ellisonz   Jan-09-09 06:20 AM   #123 
   It likely means it was a voice vote  karynnj   Jan-08-09 06:59 PM   #94 
   I'll send a note of thanks to my Senators n/t  Mudoria   Jan-08-09 01:09 PM   #18 
   Nobody ever notices the conflict until Palestine starts shooting back.  Wizard777   Jan-08-09 01:13 PM   #19 
   I see your point, but.... don't go there  subsuelo   Jan-08-09 01:33 PM   #35 
      It isn't any fun writing it either.  Wizard777   Jan-08-09 02:08 PM   #53 
   Ka-ching, country with torture camps backs civilian killing for $$$$$  specimenfred1984   Jan-08-09 01:16 PM   #20 
   The Senate is corrupt.  Gregorian   Jan-08-09 01:22 PM   #21 
   And so, the USA is now sucked into the conflict. Coming up next: More Bombings.  RCinBrooklyn   Jan-08-09 01:22 PM   #22 
   Senate unanimously supports the killing of 218 Gazan children  SOS   Jan-08-09 01:23 PM   #23 
   This makes me so sick. I used to feel sorry for the people of  eagertolearn   Jan-08-09 01:25 PM   #26 
   The vote was unanimous.  rateyes   Jan-08-09 01:34 PM   #36 
      there's not even ONE person of conscience on our side of the aisle?  stranger81   Jan-08-09 06:11 PM   #89 
      Sorry I read that wrong. n/a  eagertolearn   Jan-08-09 10:10 PM   #110 
   i can't believe it.  mimitabby   Jan-08-09 01:27 PM   #29 
   Shameful. Just shameful.  cali   Jan-08-09 01:30 PM   #30 
   My question - how can *Democrats* support this?  subsuelo   Jan-08-09 01:31 PM   #32 
   Time to Change to, or form, a new party if  byeya   Jan-08-09 01:43 PM   #38 
   I'm not sure home many votes Hamas or Hezbollah would get in most swing districts  Freddie Stubbs   Jan-08-09 02:00 PM   #47 
   It is the official policy of the Democratic Party to support Israel  Freddie Stubbs   Jan-08-09 01:59 PM   #45 
   you left out the word 'blindly'.  subsuelo   Jan-08-09 02:10 PM   #54 
   Only 31% of Democrats support the Israeli attack on Gaza  SOS   Jan-08-09 02:35 PM   #61 
   Israel is out of control. It's time to drop that policy. nt  ShadesOfGrey   Jan-08-09 04:08 PM   #75 
   The Dems get lots of money from AIPAC too  TOJ   Jan-08-09 07:26 PM   #102 
   "Democrats" have always supported the State of Israel.  totodeinhere   Jan-09-09 11:47 PM   #157 
   Fuck the US Senate and the House, too.  McCamy Taylor   Jan-08-09 01:44 PM   #39 
   WTF????  NikolaC   Jan-08-09 01:53 PM   #40 
   ...  Libertas1776   Jan-08-09 01:57 PM   #43 
   Thank you, Senate.  robcon   Jan-08-09 01:58 PM   #44 
   So what if they kill hundreds of children and innocents...  ShadesOfGrey   Jan-08-09 02:06 PM   #50 
   They're getting way more than one terrorist...  ellisonz   Jan-09-09 06:25 AM   #124 
      ... and the babies are future terrorists so it's no biggie, right? nt  ShadesOfGrey   Jan-09-09 08:44 AM   #128 
         It's not like Hamas goes to great lengths to protect the civilian population...  ellisonz   Jan-09-09 04:53 PM   #143 
            Wow! I should kill myself and innocent Israelis because ???  ShadesOfGrey   Jan-09-09 06:38 PM   #146 
               That's what you're defending!  ellisonz   Jan-09-09 09:27 PM   #149 
   and here is the proof  bstender   Jan-08-09 02:06 PM   #51 
   Thanks! Bookmarking that page. nt  ShadesOfGrey   Jan-08-09 02:11 PM   #55 
   Thank-you for sharing that. we have to see this so this can eventually stop!  eagertolearn   Jan-08-09 02:40 PM   #63 
   Those damned dirty Palestinians! The horror of those pics!  Paint It Black   Jan-08-09 05:35 PM   #86 
   Thank you! I have asked many war apologists on these boards  mbperrin   Jan-08-09 07:36 PM   #103 
   WOW  fascisthunter   Jan-10-09 09:59 AM   #160 
   Did you forget the sarcasm indicator?  The Stranger   Jan-08-09 03:45 PM   #70 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-08-09 03:49 PM   #73 
   There's nothing "defensive" about what's going on in Gaza. . . . .  stranger81   Jan-08-09 06:10 PM   #88 
   Yes. Thank you, Senate, for supporting the killing of 257 innocent children.  Kristi1696   Jan-08-09 07:03 PM   #96 
   But "the votes aren't there" for a Resolution in support of American working people!  Romulox   Jan-08-09 02:02 PM   #49 
   Times2 !  peace13   Jan-08-09 02:23 PM   #60 
   Exactly  SOS   Jan-08-09 02:39 PM   #62 
   Disguisting  Irishonly   Jan-08-09 02:06 PM   #52 
   All hail the Single Unified Capitalist War Party!  High Plains   Jan-08-09 02:18 PM   #58 
   Well this is interesting, does anyone want to make some calls...  slipslidingaway   Jan-08-09 03:02 PM   #65 
   Vote taken already per Reid's office S.Res. 10 - sorry for any  slipslidingaway   Jan-08-09 03:44 PM   #69 
   Disgraceful partisanship.  Zhade   Jan-08-09 03:46 PM   #71 
   Why is the U.S. so beholden to Israel...?  Turborama   Jan-08-09 04:17 PM   #76 
   When you get an answer...  ShadesOfGrey   Jan-08-09 04:39 PM   #81 
   here is the most comprehensive scholarly analysis of that complex question  bstender   Jan-08-09 05:28 PM   #85 
   Right now, the American government uses Israel.  LeftishBrit   Jan-09-09 05:09 PM   #144 
   For every Gazan killed in this invasion, 1,000+ Iraqis were killed by the US invasion...  Junkdrawer   Jan-08-09 04:29 PM   #77 
   True  SOS   Jan-08-09 07:08 PM   #98 
   WTF? I thought we were trying to repair our image in the world?  TEmperorHasNoClothes   Jan-08-09 04:34 PM   #79 
   I thought we had half a sense of humanity  subsuelo   Jan-08-09 07:19 PM   #100 
   Jakarta Post: Israeli strikes will only fuel radicalism  Turborama   Jan-08-09 05:22 PM   #84 
   Can anyone find this mentioned in any other news?  Pastiche423   Jan-08-09 06:01 PM   #87 
   Not I.  elleng   Jan-08-09 10:48 PM   #111 
      If it isn't being reported eslewhere - why not?  Pastiche423   Jan-08-09 10:52 PM   #112 
         u.s. public largely being kept in the blind  elleng   Jan-08-09 11:01 PM   #113 
   Congress Doesn't Represent US Citizens  fascisthunter   Jan-08-09 07:05 PM   #97 
   They don't care what we think  Hardhead   Jan-08-09 07:36 PM   #104 
   Conyers is against Gupta but apparently voted for this?  anonymous171   Jan-08-09 07:45 PM   #105 
   This is the Senate  Hardhead   Jan-08-09 07:54 PM   #106 
      My bad.  anonymous171   Jan-08-09 07:56 PM   #107 
   Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-08-09 08:22 PM   #108 
   ugh...you stay classy, congress....  Blue_Tires   Jan-09-09 08:17 AM   #126 
   Besides making radical Muslims even more likely to attack us, what is this non-binding  No Elephants   Jan-09-09 09:04 AM   #129 
   Give right wing Jews and neo-con's a warm and fuzzy.  harun   Jan-09-09 11:52 AM   #132 
      Great. That's really worth provoking people who enjoy killing us and/or raising the price of oil on  No Elephants   Jan-09-09 01:05 PM   #134 
   the problem with Obama's promises of change is that . . .  OneBlueSky   Jan-09-09 11:50 AM   #131 
   CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE TODAY! Then email your Senators and tell them you are angry.  No Elephants   Jan-09-09 01:17 PM   #138 
   Change you can believe in! nt  Marie26   Jan-09-09 03:10 PM   #140 
   Thus declaring war on the rest of the world  TOJ   Jan-09-09 07:25 PM   #147 
   But! But!  burrowowl   Jan-09-09 11:07 PM   #152 
   well, they do have an army, navy, airforce and nukes  okiru109   Jan-09-09 11:11 PM   #154 
   My message to my Congressman, Andre Carson  IndianaGreen   Jan-09-09 11:38 PM   #155 
   WTF is all I can say  JCMach1   Jan-10-09 11:12 AM   #161 
 
bobd0 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 12:31 PM
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1. Thank you AIPAC. nt
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subsuelo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:24 PM
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24. honestly AIPAC has little to do with it
If the corporate fascist elite in the United States wanted a different outcome, they could have it, and AIPAC would be unable to stop it.
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bstender (295 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 02:01 PM
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48. bwahahahahahaha !
sounds like someone's had a little too much Chomsky in their diet.

and what exactly does the _corporate_fascist_elite_ gain from this little bloodbath?
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Trillo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 03:41 PM
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68. Stopping the oil price decline. n/t
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bstender (295 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 03:58 PM
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74. nice of Israel to help out!
too bad it has no chance of working.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 11:13 PM
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114. war.
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 11:19 PM by elleng
then, power.
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stephinrome (474 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 02:44 PM
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64. well, they certainly seem to be grateful...
They've provided a way to "thank" your senators:
http://capwiz.com/aipac/issues/alert/?alertid=12397296&...

And here's the text of the bill as published on the AIPAC site
http://aipac.org/Publications/SourceMaterialsCongressio...
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AIPAC had nothing to do with this?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Stop, you're killing me
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Jan-10-09 11:28 AM
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162. While I would use different terminology...
I think you are right here. The American Right has a lot more influence over foreign policy than any 'furriners' or their friends. And America influences Israel far more than the other way around. America is bigger *and* holds the purse strings.

And in response to your critics, I would much rather have an overdose of Chomsky than an overdose of Walt and Mearsheimer, or worse, an overdose of Ron Paul.
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bstender (295 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 12:33 PM
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2. that should help
the Palestinians to understand their place in the human hierarchy
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subsuelo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:25 PM
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25. as victims of the worst terror groups in the world?
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proud progressive (351 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:53 PM
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41. there you go. in fact, let's add cuba, mexico, half of so amer, france, africa, middle east,.....
indonesia, spain, and anyone in the rest of the world who somehow believe that we, and by extension, israel, DO NOT OWN THE FUCKING WORLD!
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92. Have a Superiority Complex,eh?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jan-08-09 07:02 PM
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95. sarcasm?
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 07:05 PM by fascisthunter
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bstender (295 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 08:32 PM
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109. sarcasm, yes. i posted that already
answering the first response, but it got deleted without explanation. i can't for the life of me imagine what i said that was objectionable. i try to be fair minded and avoid hyperbole, and i typed like two sentences. but obviously the moderator disagreed.

i thought the sarcasm was obvious, but i sometimes forget how text can be a tricky medium for dry humor.

SARCASM for sure :/
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Jan-10-09 09:47 AM
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158. lol... I at first thought you were serious
then, I read another post of yours down thread and realized I had better replace my response to your sarcasm with something else....
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bstender (295 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sat Jan-10-09 01:04 PM
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163. phew
i failed to imagine that there was any chance that it would not be seen as sarcasm until i saw that response that took it seriously. it's hard to remember that there are people who actually believe that some (other) human beings are 'untermenschen', but clearly they're out there. many apologies!

how does one evoke the dripping sarcasm thingy? i'm from the days of 2400 baud.


oh looky there, smilies lookup table, how convenient :bounce:
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 12:33 PM
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3. So the Senate approves of attacks on UN convoys...
And the denial of aid and medical assistance to children?

That's fantastic.
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subsuelo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:25 PM
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27. Yes, a big thumbs up to bombing children and to terrorism, generally
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 01:26 PM by subsuelo
Way to go, U.S. Senate. Way to go.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 11:17 PM
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115. And the House tomorrow.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 01:09 PM
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135. CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE TODAY.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 12:34 PM
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4. It appears the "Bush Doctrine" will be with us for a little while longer...
Why am I not surprised that Israeli state terrorism apes US state terrorism?
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subsuelo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:35 PM
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37. Obama better not be going along with this shit, once he gets in there
If Obama starts praising Israel's terrorism and defending their war crimes, I am done with the Democratic Party.
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ellisonz (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 05:55 AM
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119. Bye!
:hi:
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 08:30 AM
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127. Peace will come when Israelis love their children more than they covet Palestinian land..
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ellisonz (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 04:48 PM
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141. Which is way Hamas is dedicated to the extermination of the "Zionist entity"
It's not the Israelis who aren't willing to make a deal!
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 11:07 PM
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153. Or when Hamas loves their children more than they covet Israeli land. nt
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Jan-10-09 09:54 AM
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159. yes indeed
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 10:15 AM
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130. His Secretary of State supports it
so it is very unlikely that we are approaching a new policy.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 01:13 PM
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136. "Obama better not..."


:wow:
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156. Good riddance to you. n/t
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 12:35 PM
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5. disgusting. nt
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 12:37 PM
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6. Chickenshit enablers.
Fuck Reid, Pelosi, and the rest of the bastards on Capitol Hill. Not ONE Senator with the guts to vote against a piece of shit resolution like that?? How about a resolution of support for the innocent children of Gaza?? When is that coming??

I won't hold my breath.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 12:43 PM
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7. No doubt. I think they should also pass a measure of support for Bush's handling of Katrina.
After all, he denied food, shelter and medical care to civilians, just as Israel is doing to the Palestinians in Gaza.

If the Senate is so damned pleased with Israel's moral right in this issue, why not stand up and praise Bush as well?
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:31 PM
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31. It would be only fair, wouldn't it??
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Rayander (10 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 02:00 PM
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46. What about a resolution of support for the innocent old folks in the old-age facility?
Six Katyushas Strike Northern Israel, IDF RetaliatesAt least four Katyusha rockets hit northwestern Israel, in the area of the coastal city of Nahariya, around 7:35 a.m. Thursday morning. One of the missiles hit the roof of an old age facility in Nahariya. Two elderly people from the old-age facility are being treated in Nahariya Hospital for light shrapnel wounds in the legs, and four others are being treated for shock. The Home Front Command has ordered residents to enter shelters. Hizbullah has smuggled in from Syria three times more rockets than it possessed before the Second Lebanon War two years ago. It has not taken responsibility for the rocket attacks, which may have been initiated by another terrorist group with the approval of Hizbullah. Israeli media reported that the rockets were older models and probably were fired bya small terrorist group.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 05:17 PM
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83. How about a resolution supporting all the innocents
in Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, Lebanon, the West Bank, and Gaza?
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thewiseguy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 12:44 PM
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8. Take that "vigorous support" and shove it up your ass Harry
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 12:46 PM
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9. I am truly heartbroken at this and sickened by them beyond words.
I e-mail them and it does no good, they don't give a damn at all. I don't honestly know how they sleep at night.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 11:24 PM
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117. Have you written your Senators and Rep?
I'm working on it.

Marches planned in DC and maybe NYC, but 'we' should be confronting 'our' members, imo.
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 12:50 PM
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10. dance for your pennies monkey congress n/t
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 02:17 PM
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57. Senators like Ted Kennedy do not need 'pennies'
He must have some other reasons for this.
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 03:32 PM
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66. Yes he must
As much as I love my senators, I think they are incredibly, incredibly wrong on this.
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 03:37 PM
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67. Perhaps they actually thin supporting this resolution is the right thing to do
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subsuelo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 04:30 PM
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78. supporting War on Children is not the right thing to do.
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 05:14 PM
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82. Perhaps they view this a defensive war rather than a "War on Children"
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subsuelo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 06:50 PM
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90. No sane person paying the slightest bit of attention views it as a "defensive war"
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 06:53 PM
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91. Does that mean the Ted kennedy is insane?
:shrug:
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subsuelo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 07:13 PM
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99. One has to wonder...
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 07:14 PM by subsuelo
... about anyone supporting Israel's terrorist war crimes
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 11:27 PM
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118. The 'resolution' is very careful not to say anything untoward;
what it FAILS to say is the shocking part.
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 07:59 AM
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125. And if they do, then I am very disappointed in them
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SOS (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 07:24 PM
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101. It was a voice vote
Was Kennedy there today?

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nancyr (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 12:56 PM
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12. Repulsive.
If they manage it correctly they can get us mired down before Bush leaves. Still time left for WW3!
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ShadesOfGrey (646 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 12:57 PM
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13. I am so ashamed of my country right now...

this move is absolutely heartbreaking. :cry:
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balantz (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:00 PM
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14. Partners in terrorist war crimes n/t
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subsuelo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:27 PM
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28. Exactly
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jan-08-09 01:03 PM
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15. The Greatest Foreign Policy Blunder of the 20th century...
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 01:05 PM by AlbertCat
....the creation of Israel....will still be the gift that keeps on giving as it has since 1949.

I wonder what would have happened if back then they had decided to make Texas a Jewish State?

We all know they really aren't fighting over religion (they're fighting over the only decent oasis in the stinking desert), but religion determines the flavor of the conflict. Remember, Palestinians are Semites too!

If Bush had really wanted to establish a Jeffersonian Democracy in the Middle East, why didn't he ask our friends to do it before trying to force our enemies at gun point to do so? Why didn't he ask Israel or Saudi Arabia to change?

I'm so sick of the wretched Middle East, I can't stand it!
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marshall (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 04:34 PM
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80. People weren't thinking straight after WWII
After what has come to be known as the Holocaust, people acted with their hearts and not their brains and rewarded the remnants of the "chosen people" with some land in the desert.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 11:19 PM
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116. In all fairness, the guilt gift should have been along the banks of the Rhine
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ellisonz (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 06:12 AM
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122. Because the Germans were just so tolerant!
You should take a long walk to...a Holocaust museum.

Most Jews did not accept the prospect of remaining in Europe...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sh%27erit_ha-Pletah#A_comm...

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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 03:09 PM
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139. I don't believe the Germans were in very much of a position...
to make make further demands or further exert their intolerance.
They lost the war, y'know...
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ellisonz (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 04:50 PM
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142. So you would have supported the forcible removal of German familys?
Yeah, that's a path to peace!

Your argument is counter-factual and deprives Jews of any agency...
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 06:12 PM
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145. German Nazism was driven by a crazyass mythology and fanatic nationalism
Sound familiar?

Also, do you support the forcible removal of Palestinian families?
Yeah, that's a path to peace!
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ellisonz (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 09:26 PM
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148. The history of Israel-Palestine conflict is a lot more complex than that...
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 10:41 PM
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150. That is true; cousins often fight...
but that doesn't mean I should finance any part of that bloody family squabble.
Let their mythical skygod sort it out for them.
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ellisonz (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 06:02 AM
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121. That's like blaming the Slaves for Jim Crow...
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 10:43 PM
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151. No, that would be like giving the slaves...I dunno...Egypt...instead of Louisiana
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ellisonz (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 05:59 AM
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120. 1914.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jan-09-09 01:00 PM
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133. Yes, obviously, much worse than two fucking WORLD WARS!!!
:sarcasm:

And a lot of states were created after the end of British and French colonialism, and not all of the decisions worked well. The Partition of India and Pakistan resulted in a LOT more violence, massive relocations, and deaths than anything to do with this I/P conflict.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:05 PM
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16. I'm sorry...
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 01:08 PM by Turborama
...but what did we just vote for?

I was ready to wait until the 20th in the hope that things might change, but I'm starting feel quite disillusioned right now...

I'm also beginning to think Rev. Wright was onto something.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 01:13 PM
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137. What did Wright say that was factually incorrect?
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:06 PM
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17. Unanamous? That means Boxer, Feingold, Sanders, and Kerry supported this
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:32 PM
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33. Not to mention Biden and Clinton. nt
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34. It means that every single one of them is wrong.
I am surprised Russ Feingold supported this, as he voted against the Iraq War Resolution and has taken a stand in the past.
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42. It's Just Palestinian Lives,
no one really cares what happens to them. They are not important or human :sarcasm:.
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123. Feingold Statement on Gaza
Wednesday, January 7, 2009

"No country should tolerate terrorism and Israel has every right to protect its citizens from Hamas missile attacks. But I am concerned that the military operations in Gaza could backfire and lead to more violence. In addition, every effort must be made to allow innocent civilians in Gaza to receive humanitarian assistance. I hope a ceasefire can be reached as soon as possible so that serious progress can be made toward a two-state solution. To achieve that, there must be sustained diplomatic efforts including the appointment of a high-level U.S. official to work on this issue every day until a resolution can be reached.”

http://feingold.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=306409
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 06:59 PM
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94. It likely means it was a voice vote
brought up on the Senate floor by the leadership with no objection made by any of the people then on the floor - it may well be that the vast majority of the Senators were not even there.

(there are no votes this session listed in Thomas - there is a Vitter resolution backing Israel in Thomas introduced on the 1/6, that was referred to the SFRC - which has not yet met this year - unless I missed something. )
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:09 PM
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18. I'll send a note of thanks to my Senators n/t
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:13 PM
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19. Nobody ever notices the conflict until Palestine starts shooting back.
I hate to say it. But if you change the word Liberal to Israel. Ann Coulter is absolutely right. (Please don't shoot or ban me!) They are agressors that always play the victim. They bomb Gaza and play victim when Hamas starts firing rockets in defense.
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subsuelo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:33 PM
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35. I see your point, but.... don't go there
I don't ever want to read the words "Ann Coulter is right" here at DU again.
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 02:08 PM
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53. It isn't any fun writing it either.
I had to wash my hands and keyboard with bleach. :puke:
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specimenfred1984 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:16 PM
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20. Ka-ching, country with torture camps backs civilian killing for $$$$$
Now let's all talk about how great the South is, how we should all just offer war criminals redemption, how we should all "reach across the isle". BARF.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:22 PM
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21. The Senate is corrupt.
And this is what is wrong with America. A pathetically uneducated voter population has enabled a group of evil men to rule over the country.

Sorry if that's incorrect, but it's my simplistic observation. A group of wealthy men is not what we want in office. They don't serve well.
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RCinBrooklyn (421 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:22 PM
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22. And so, the USA is now sucked into the conflict. Coming up next: More Bombings.
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SOS (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:23 PM
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23. Senate unanimously supports the killing of 218 Gazan children
The lackeys have outdone themselves this time.


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eagertolearn Donating Member (937 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:25 PM
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26. This makes me so sick. I used to feel sorry for the people of
Israel but now i just feel disgust. I do not want another dollar (or another gun) to go over there from our taxes. I'm sorry but "Israel needs to protect itself"???? I don't like the idea of Hamas taking radical measures in the name of "helping" the Palestinians but Israel has been making it hard for the Palestinians to live in the small piece of land they have left and those in Gaza are fighting for their basic needs to live. This is why Hamas was able to take over. We should only give countries help if they are willing to negotiate for peace and come to an understanding over the land. Helping Israel is just as bad as helping Iraq. We just want a foot hold over there! This is only going to cause another problem with people hating the Jews and we've come to far for that! This could end up causing another Holocaust. This makes me just feel so sick to my stomach. How could are Senate do this? The Oregon senators better not of voted for this! Anyone have a list of who didn't support it?
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:34 PM
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36. The vote was unanimous.
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stranger81 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 06:11 PM
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89. there's not even ONE person of conscience on our side of the aisle?
That's even more disturbing.
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eagertolearn Donating Member (937 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 10:10 PM
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110. Sorry I read that wrong. n/a
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mimitabby Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Thu Jan-08-09 01:27 PM
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29. i can't believe it.
can i just leave the country now? sheesh
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:30 PM
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30. Shameful. Just shameful.
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subsuelo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:31 PM
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32. My question - how can *Democrats* support this?
Democrats should know better.

Democrats should support human rights, not terrorism.

Democrats should have a conscience, or at least some semblance of empathy for victims of terrorist war crimes.

Instead, we have pathetic war-mongering cowards representing this party.

God dammit it's TIME FOR CHANGE. But WHEN????????
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byeya (209 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:43 PM
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38. Time to Change to, or form, a new party if
this is all we're going to get.
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 02:00 PM
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47. I'm not sure home many votes Hamas or Hezbollah would get in most swing districts
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:59 PM
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45. It is the official policy of the Democratic Party to support Israel
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subsuelo (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 02:10 PM
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54. you left out the word 'blindly'.
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SOS (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 02:35 PM
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61. Only 31% of Democrats support the Israeli attack on Gaza
The lackeys in Congress are 100%.
The actual party members, 31%.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics...
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ShadesOfGrey (646 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 04:08 PM
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75. Israel is out of control. It's time to drop that policy. nt

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 07:26 PM
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102. The Dems get lots of money from AIPAC too
that's how
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jan-09-09 11:47 PM
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157. "Democrats" have always supported the State of Israel.
There has been great bipartisan support for Israel ever since Democratic President Harry Truman helped to form Israel. Every Dem president since then has followed suit.

But that's not good enough for some radicals who wish to destroy the Democratic Party by abandoning Israel and standing by and watching while the enemies of Israel drive her into the sea.
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:44 PM
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39. Fuck the US Senate and the House, too.
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:53 PM
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40. WTF????
:grr:What about the children, civilians and UN workers? This is beyond disgusting and sick. I love how they just voted to support mass murder. Twisted, self centered, ignorant, complicit and complacent idiots :argh:! This is sure to go a long way towards repairing our reputation around the world :sarcasm:.
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:57 PM
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43. ...
And then a few years down the road, or hell, even sooner
we get attacked again by terrorists.

A terrorist no doubt influenced by America's indifference to Palestine's plight and absolute blind support of Israel. There are plenty of orphaned children in Gaza right now who are filled with anger and ready to be indoctrinated. And then these fuckers in Congress wonder why did we get attacked? Its because they hate us for our freedom, they hate us for our freedom :sarcasm:

No! you shit for brains' its because of your fucking racist indifference to the killing of "brown" people and your policy of shoving your collective head up Israel's ass. Nuff said.
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robcon (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 01:58 PM
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44. Thank you, Senate.
Recognizing this is a defensive move by Israel against Palestinian rockets is the right thing to do.
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ShadesOfGrey (646 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 02:06 PM
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50. So what if they kill hundreds of children and innocents...
as long as they get one rocket shooter?

I'm sickened by that type of reasoning...

:thumbsdown:
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ellisonz (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 06:25 AM
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124. They're getting way more than one terrorist...
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ShadesOfGrey (646 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 08:44 AM
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128. ... and the babies are future terrorists so it's no biggie, right? nt
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ellisonz (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 04:53 PM
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143. It's not like Hamas goes to great lengths to protect the civilian population...
...they started this shit. Every civilian death is a tragedy.

How about you go strap some explosives to your chest and detonate yourself in an Israeli cafe? No?
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ShadesOfGrey (646 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 06:38 PM
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146. Wow! I should kill myself and innocent Israelis because ???

Sorry, I care about ALL innocent people. The Israeli government not so much. I use to hold them to a higher standard than Hamas. How foolish of me.
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ellisonz (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jan-09-09 09:27 PM
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149. That's what you're defending!
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bstender (295 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 02:06 PM
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51. and here is the proof
i never realized the size and power of those Hammas rockets before seeing the pictures for myself:

http://palestinian.ning.com/forum/topics/the-other-side...
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ShadesOfGrey (646 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 02:11 PM
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55. Thanks! Bookmarking that page. nt
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eagertolearn Donating Member (937 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 02:40 PM
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63. Thank-you for sharing that. we have to see this so this can eventually stop!
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 05:35 PM
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86. Those damned dirty Palestinians! The horror of those pics!
Yes, I can see clearly why Israel is justified in "defending" itself from those rockets! Gotta kill every single one of those Palestinian bastards! Why, those Hamas rockets are capable of inflicting hundreds of dollars worth of damage!
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 07:36 PM
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103. Thank you! I have asked many war apologists on these boards
to name even one person killed by those rockets, and all I have ever gotten is silence.

Now I see why. These really are somewhat overgrown nuisance hobby rockets....
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sat Jan-10-09 09:59 AM
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160. WOW
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The Stranger (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 03:45 PM
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70. Did you forget the sarcasm indicator?
Are you lost?
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stranger81 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 06:10 PM
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88. There's nothing "defensive" about what's going on in Gaza. . . . .
it's pretty fucking offensive, IMHO.

This latest move by Senate Dems is, frankly, disgusting and not worthy of our party. And I don't care what generalities our party platform might contain.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 07:03 PM
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96. Yes. Thank you, Senate, for supporting the killing of 257 innocent children.
Children represent 1/3 of the dead Palestinians thus far (over 750 total).

14 Israelis have died, mostly soldiers.

Defensive, my ass.
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Romulox (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 02:02 PM
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49. But "the votes aren't there" for a Resolution in support of American working people!
:puke:
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 02:23 PM
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60. Times2 !
These people are spineless wimps and need to get on the next plane to Gaza. We have more chicken *hit politicians ordering up bombs and war for others than is imaginable. Let them think what they want to but why was a formal resolution of this nature needed. Obama better have a huge set of balls pinned on on january 20th because this is not a direction this county needs to be going in !
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SOS (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 02:39 PM
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62. Exactly
Our economy will be destroyed in 2009 because the Congress is in the pocket of Wall Street.
They support whoever will grease them and keep them safe in their seat.


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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 02:06 PM
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52. Disguisting
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 02:18 PM
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58. All hail the Single Unified Capitalist War Party!
This is part of the reason I'm an independent, not a Democrat (or Republican).
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 03:02 PM
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65. Well this is interesting, does anyone want to make some calls...
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 03:02 PM by slipslidingaway
the offices of Biden and Sanders say there has not been a vote yet, Lautenberg's office says the vote is scheduled for later on today, the Bloomberg article says there was a unanimous vote in favor of the resolution.

:shrug:

posted here, but full post is above
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...



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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 03:44 PM
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69. Vote taken already per Reid's office S.Res. 10 - sorry for any
confusion.

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Zhade (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 03:46 PM
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71. Disgraceful partisanship.
NT!

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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 04:17 PM
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76. Why is the U.S. so beholden to Israel...?
Also, why does AIPAC seem to have such a stranglehold on America's political leaders?

Israel is a very expensive friend. Expensive in more ways than simply the billions of dollars and military hardware that just get given away to her every year. As we all know, in many (if not most) countries around the world, Israel is seen as America's kid brother and the US will stand behind them no matter what they do.

Why?

I have been trying to figure it out for sometime now but I can't seem to come up with a conclusive answer.

Is it really just simply having a 'friend in the Middle East'?

Is Israel essentially an American military foothold in the region?

Is it a kind of continued guilt for not stopping the holocaust?

Is it an embedded Judeo-Christian belief in bible prophecies?

Is it to ensure votes from the Jewish Americans during general elections?


Is it some of the above combined?

Is it all of the above combined?

If it's some or all of the above but something is missing, what else could it be?

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ShadesOfGrey (646 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 04:39 PM
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81. When you get an answer...

please let me know too. Something is seriously wrong here! How can ANYONE turn a blind eye on the humanitarian crisis in Gaza? What the hell is more important human lives?
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bstender (295 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 05:28 PM
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85. here is the most comprehensive scholarly analysis of that complex question
the very carefully worded scholarly analysis by profs. mearsheimer and walt published by the JFKennedy school of govt. at Harvard; "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy" also expanded into a best selling book by the same name:

http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/rw...
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Fri Jan-09-09 05:09 PM
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144. Right now, the American government uses Israel.
They are allies - or pawns - in the fight against the Muslim world in general and Iran in particular.

Britain plays a similar role in a somewhat different context.

Not that Hamas aren't absolutely disgusting, but the American politicians would do better to press both sides for peace, than to egg one side on.

I hope Obama will encourage real peacemaking.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 04:29 PM
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77. For every Gazan killed in this invasion, 1,000+ Iraqis were killed by the US invasion...
True, our "action" took 5 1/2 years and had the help of a Sunni/Shiite civil war, but to think that our Congress could, with a straight face, condemn Israel's actions is ludicrous.

Our Moral Authority, if we ever had it, is dead.
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SOS (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Jan-08-09 07:08 PM
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98. True
but at least on that catastrophic sell-out, 23 Senators had the guts to say NO.
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