DogPoundPup
(1000+ posts)
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Thu Jan-08-09 12:30 PM
Original message |
| Senate Approves Resolution Backing Israel in Hamas Conflict |
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Source: Bloomberg Jan. 8 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Senate unanimously approved a resolution expressing support for Israel in its conflict with Hamas, while the House of Representatives prepared to act on a similar measure tomorrow. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, said the measure “expresses vigorous support” for Israel. “The Israelis have every right to defend themselves against these acts of terrorism,” said Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky. Israel is in its 13th day of military operations against the Islamic militant Hamas movement in the Gaza Strip in an effort to stop rocket attacks against southern Israeli towns. Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=aUh...
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Thank you AIPAC. nt |
bobd0 |
Jan-08-09 12:31 PM |
#1 |
 
honestly AIPAC has little to do with it |
subsuelo |
Jan-08-09 01:24 PM |
#24 |

bwahahahahahaha ! |
bstender |
Jan-08-09 02:01 PM |
#48 |
 
Stopping the oil price decline. n/t |
SimpleTrend |
Jan-08-09 03:41 PM |
#68 |
  
nice of Israel to help out! |
bstender |
Jan-08-09 03:58 PM |
#74 |
 
war. |
elleng |
Jan-08-09 11:13 PM |
#114 |

well, they certainly seem to be grateful... |
stephinrome |
Jan-08-09 02:44 PM |
#64 |

AIPAC had nothing to do with this? |
TOJ |
Jan-08-09 07:24 PM |
# |

While I would use different terminology... |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-10-09 11:28 AM |
#162 |

that should help |
bstender |
Jan-08-09 12:33 PM |
#2 |
 
as victims of the worst terror groups in the world? |
subsuelo |
Jan-08-09 01:25 PM |
#25 |
  
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Jan-08-09 02:15 PM |
#56 |
 
there you go. in fact, let's add cuba, mexico, half of so amer, france, africa, middle east,..... |
proud progressive |
Jan-08-09 01:53 PM |
#41 |
 
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Jan-08-09 03:47 PM |
#72 |
 
Have a Superiority Complex,eh? |
goforit |
Jan-08-09 06:54 PM |
#92 |
 
sarcasm? |
fascisthunter |
Jan-08-09 07:02 PM |
#95 |

sarcasm, yes. i posted that already |
bstender |
Jan-08-09 08:32 PM |
#109 |

lol... I at first thought you were serious |
fascisthunter |
Jan-10-09 09:47 AM |
#158 |

phew |
bstender |
Jan-10-09 01:04 PM |
#163 |

So the Senate approves of attacks on UN convoys... |
Kristi1696 |
Jan-08-09 12:33 PM |
#3 |
 
Yes, a big thumbs up to bombing children and to terrorism, generally |
subsuelo |
Jan-08-09 01:25 PM |
#27 |
 
And the House tomorrow. |
elleng |
Jan-08-09 11:17 PM |
#115 |

CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE TODAY. |
No Elephants |
Jan-09-09 01:09 PM |
#135 |

It appears the "Bush Doctrine" will be with us for a little while longer... |
KansDem |
Jan-08-09 12:34 PM |
#4 |
 
Obama better not be going along with this shit, once he gets in there |
subsuelo |
Jan-08-09 01:35 PM |
#37 |

Bye! |
ellisonz |
Jan-09-09 05:55 AM |
#119 |
 
Peace will come when Israelis love their children more than they covet Palestinian land.. |
Fumesucker |
Jan-09-09 08:30 AM |
#127 |

Which is way Hamas is dedicated to the extermination of the "Zionist entity" |
ellisonz |
Jan-09-09 04:48 PM |
#141 |

Or when Hamas loves their children more than they covet Israeli land. nt |
hack89 |
Jan-09-09 11:07 PM |
#153 |

yes indeed |
fascisthunter |
Jan-10-09 09:54 AM |
#159 |

His Secretary of State supports it |
spotbird |
Jan-09-09 10:15 AM |
#130 |

"Obama better not..." |
Window |
Jan-09-09 01:13 PM |
#136 |

Good riddance to you. n/t |
totodeinhere |
Jan-09-09 11:40 PM |
#156 |

disgusting. nt |
bowens43 |
Jan-08-09 12:35 PM |
#5 |

Chickenshit enablers. |
rateyes |
Jan-08-09 12:37 PM |
#6 |
 
No doubt. I think they should also pass a measure of support for Bush's handling of Katrina. |
Kristi1696 |
Jan-08-09 12:43 PM |
#7 |
  
It would be only fair, wouldn't it?? |
rateyes |
Jan-08-09 01:31 PM |
#31 |
 
What about a resolution of support for the innocent old folks in the old-age facility? |
Rayander |
Jan-08-09 02:00 PM |
#46 |

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Jan-08-09 02:19 PM |
#59 |

How about a resolution supporting all the innocents |
rateyes |
Jan-08-09 05:17 PM |
#83 |

Take that "vigorous support" and shove it up your ass Harry |
thewiseguy |
Jan-08-09 12:44 PM |
#8 |

I am truly heartbroken at this and sickened by them beyond words. |
Jefferson23 |
Jan-08-09 12:46 PM |
#9 |
 
Have you written your Senators and Rep? |
elleng |
Jan-08-09 11:24 PM |
#117 |

dance for your pennies monkey congress n/t |
Howardx |
Jan-08-09 12:50 PM |
#10 |
 
Senators like Ted Kennedy do not need 'pennies' |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jan-08-09 02:17 PM |
#57 |

Yes he must |
Marrah_G |
Jan-08-09 03:32 PM |
#66 |
 
Perhaps they actually thin supporting this resolution is the right thing to do |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jan-08-09 03:37 PM |
#67 |

supporting War on Children is not the right thing to do. |
subsuelo |
Jan-08-09 04:30 PM |
#78 |
 
Perhaps they view this a defensive war rather than a "War on Children" |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jan-08-09 05:14 PM |
#82 |

No sane person paying the slightest bit of attention views it as a "defensive war" |
subsuelo |
Jan-08-09 06:50 PM |
#90 |

Does that mean the Ted kennedy is insane? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jan-08-09 06:53 PM |
#91 |

One has to wonder... |
subsuelo |
Jan-08-09 07:13 PM |
#99 |

The 'resolution' is very careful not to say anything untoward; |
elleng |
Jan-08-09 11:27 PM |
#118 |

And if they do, then I am very disappointed in them |
Marrah_G |
Jan-09-09 07:59 AM |
#125 |

It was a voice vote |
SOS |
Jan-08-09 07:24 PM |
#101 |

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Jan-08-09 12:56 PM |
#11 |
 
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Jan-08-09 06:56 PM |
#93 |

Repulsive. |
nancyr |
Jan-08-09 12:56 PM |
#12 |

I am so ashamed of my country right now... |
ShadesOfGrey |
Jan-08-09 12:57 PM |
#13 |

Partners in terrorist war crimes n/t |
balantz |
Jan-08-09 01:00 PM |
#14 |
 
Exactly |
subsuelo |
Jan-08-09 01:27 PM |
#28 |

The Greatest Foreign Policy Blunder of the 20th century... |
AlbertCat |
Jan-08-09 01:03 PM |
#15 |
 
People weren't thinking straight after WWII |
marshall |
Jan-08-09 04:34 PM |
#80 |
  
In all fairness, the guilt gift should have been along the banks of the Rhine |
mitchum |
Jan-08-09 11:19 PM |
#116 |
   
Because the Germans were just so tolerant! |
ellisonz |
Jan-09-09 06:12 AM |
#122 |
  
I don't believe the Germans were in very much of a position... |
mitchum |
Jan-09-09 03:09 PM |
#139 |
  
So you would have supported the forcible removal of German familys? |
ellisonz |
Jan-09-09 04:50 PM |
#142 |
  
German Nazism was driven by a crazyass mythology and fanatic nationalism |
mitchum |
Jan-09-09 06:12 PM |
#145 |
  
The history of Israel-Palestine conflict is a lot more complex than that... |
ellisonz |
Jan-09-09 09:26 PM |
#148 |
  
That is true; cousins often fight... |
mitchum |
Jan-09-09 10:41 PM |
#150 |
  
That's like blaming the Slaves for Jim Crow... |
ellisonz |
Jan-09-09 06:02 AM |
#121 |
 
No, that would be like giving the slaves...I dunno...Egypt...instead of Louisiana |
mitchum |
Jan-09-09 10:43 PM |
#151 |
 
1914. |
ellisonz |
Jan-09-09 05:59 AM |
#120 |
 
Yes, obviously, much worse than two fucking WORLD WARS!!! |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-09-09 01:00 PM |
#133 |

I'm sorry... |
Turborama |
Jan-08-09 01:05 PM |
#16 |
 
What did Wright say that was factually incorrect? |
No Elephants |
Jan-09-09 01:13 PM |
#137 |

Unanamous? That means Boxer, Feingold, Sanders, and Kerry supported this |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jan-08-09 01:06 PM |
#17 |
 
Not to mention Biden and Clinton. nt |
rateyes |
Jan-08-09 01:32 PM |
#33 |
 
It means that every single one of them is wrong. |
The Stranger |
Jan-08-09 01:32 PM |
#34 |
  
It's Just Palestinian Lives, |
NikolaC |
Jan-08-09 01:55 PM |
#42 |
  
Feingold Statement on Gaza |
ellisonz |
Jan-09-09 06:20 AM |
#123 |
 
It likely means it was a voice vote |
karynnj |
Jan-08-09 06:59 PM |
#94 |

I'll send a note of thanks to my Senators n/t |
Mudoria |
Jan-08-09 01:09 PM |
#18 |

Nobody ever notices the conflict until Palestine starts shooting back. |
Wizard777 |
Jan-08-09 01:13 PM |
#19 |
 
I see your point, but.... don't go there |
subsuelo |
Jan-08-09 01:33 PM |
#35 |

It isn't any fun writing it either. |
Wizard777 |
Jan-08-09 02:08 PM |
#53 |

Ka-ching, country with torture camps backs civilian killing for $$$$$ |
specimenfred1984 |
Jan-08-09 01:16 PM |
#20 |

The Senate is corrupt. |
Gregorian |
Jan-08-09 01:22 PM |
#21 |

And so, the USA is now sucked into the conflict. Coming up next: More Bombings. |
RCinBrooklyn |
Jan-08-09 01:22 PM |
#22 |

Senate unanimously supports the killing of 218 Gazan children |
SOS |
Jan-08-09 01:23 PM |
#23 |

This makes me so sick. I used to feel sorry for the people of |
eagertolearn |
Jan-08-09 01:25 PM |
#26 |
 
The vote was unanimous. |
rateyes |
Jan-08-09 01:34 PM |
#36 |

there's not even ONE person of conscience on our side of the aisle? |
stranger81 |
Jan-08-09 06:11 PM |
#89 |

Sorry I read that wrong. n/a |
eagertolearn |
Jan-08-09 10:10 PM |
#110 |

i can't believe it. |
mimitabby |
Jan-08-09 01:27 PM |
#29 |

Shameful. Just shameful. |
cali |
Jan-08-09 01:30 PM |
#30 |

My question - how can *Democrats* support this? |
subsuelo |
Jan-08-09 01:31 PM |
#32 |
 
Time to Change to, or form, a new party if |
byeya |
Jan-08-09 01:43 PM |
#38 |
  
I'm not sure home many votes Hamas or Hezbollah would get in most swing districts |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jan-08-09 02:00 PM |
#47 |
 
It is the official policy of the Democratic Party to support Israel |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jan-08-09 01:59 PM |
#45 |
  
you left out the word 'blindly'. |
subsuelo |
Jan-08-09 02:10 PM |
#54 |
  
Only 31% of Democrats support the Israeli attack on Gaza |
SOS |
Jan-08-09 02:35 PM |
#61 |
  
Israel is out of control. It's time to drop that policy. nt |
ShadesOfGrey |
Jan-08-09 04:08 PM |
#75 |
 
The Dems get lots of money from AIPAC too |
TOJ |
Jan-08-09 07:26 PM |
#102 |
 
"Democrats" have always supported the State of Israel. |
totodeinhere |
Jan-09-09 11:47 PM |
#157 |

Fuck the US Senate and the House, too. |
McCamy Taylor |
Jan-08-09 01:44 PM |
#39 |

WTF???? |
NikolaC |
Jan-08-09 01:53 PM |
#40 |

... |
Libertas1776 |
Jan-08-09 01:57 PM |
#43 |

Thank you, Senate. |
robcon |
Jan-08-09 01:58 PM |
#44 |
 
So what if they kill hundreds of children and innocents... |
ShadesOfGrey |
Jan-08-09 02:06 PM |
#50 |
  
They're getting way more than one terrorist... |
ellisonz |
Jan-09-09 06:25 AM |
#124 |
 
... and the babies are future terrorists so it's no biggie, right? nt |
ShadesOfGrey |
Jan-09-09 08:44 AM |
#128 |
 
It's not like Hamas goes to great lengths to protect the civilian population... |
ellisonz |
Jan-09-09 04:53 PM |
#143 |
 
Wow! I should kill myself and innocent Israelis because ??? |
ShadesOfGrey |
Jan-09-09 06:38 PM |
#146 |
 
That's what you're defending! |
ellisonz |
Jan-09-09 09:27 PM |
#149 |
 
and here is the proof |
bstender |
Jan-08-09 02:06 PM |
#51 |
  
Thanks! Bookmarking that page. nt |
ShadesOfGrey |
Jan-08-09 02:11 PM |
#55 |
  
Thank-you for sharing that. we have to see this so this can eventually stop! |
eagertolearn |
Jan-08-09 02:40 PM |
#63 |
  
Those damned dirty Palestinians! The horror of those pics! |
Paint It Black |
Jan-08-09 05:35 PM |
#86 |
  
Thank you! I have asked many war apologists on these boards |
mbperrin |
Jan-08-09 07:36 PM |
#103 |
  
WOW |
fascisthunter |
Jan-10-09 09:59 AM |
#160 |
 
Did you forget the sarcasm indicator? |
The Stranger |
Jan-08-09 03:45 PM |
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Jan-08-09 03:49 PM |
#73 |
 
There's nothing "defensive" about what's going on in Gaza. . . . . |
stranger81 |
Jan-08-09 06:10 PM |
#88 |
 
Yes. Thank you, Senate, for supporting the killing of 257 innocent children. |
Kristi1696 |
Jan-08-09 07:03 PM |
#96 |

But "the votes aren't there" for a Resolution in support of American working people! |
Romulox |
Jan-08-09 02:02 PM |
#49 |
 
Times2 ! |
peace13 |
Jan-08-09 02:23 PM |
#60 |
 
Exactly |
SOS |
Jan-08-09 02:39 PM |
#62 |

Disguisting |
Irishonly |
Jan-08-09 02:06 PM |
#52 |

All hail the Single Unified Capitalist War Party! |
High Plains |
Jan-08-09 02:18 PM |
#58 |

Well this is interesting, does anyone want to make some calls... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-08-09 03:02 PM |
#65 |
 
Vote taken already per Reid's office S.Res. 10 - sorry for any |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-08-09 03:44 PM |
#69 |

Disgraceful partisanship. |
Zhade |
Jan-08-09 03:46 PM |
#71 |

Why is the U.S. so beholden to Israel...? |
Turborama |
Jan-08-09 04:17 PM |
#76 |
 
When you get an answer... |
ShadesOfGrey |
Jan-08-09 04:39 PM |
#81 |
 
here is the most comprehensive scholarly analysis of that complex question |
bstender |
Jan-08-09 05:28 PM |
#85 |
 
Right now, the American government uses Israel. |
LeftishBrit |
Jan-09-09 05:09 PM |
#144 |

For every Gazan killed in this invasion, 1,000+ Iraqis were killed by the US invasion... |
Junkdrawer |
Jan-08-09 04:29 PM |
#77 |
 
True |
SOS |
Jan-08-09 07:08 PM |
#98 |

WTF? I thought we were trying to repair our image in the world? |
TEmperorHasNoClothes |
Jan-08-09 04:34 PM |
#79 |
 
I thought we had half a sense of humanity |
subsuelo |
Jan-08-09 07:19 PM |
#100 |

Jakarta Post: Israeli strikes will only fuel radicalism |
Turborama |
Jan-08-09 05:22 PM |
#84 |

Can anyone find this mentioned in any other news? |
Pastiche423 |
Jan-08-09 06:01 PM |
#87 |
 
Not I. |
elleng |
Jan-08-09 10:48 PM |
#111 |

If it isn't being reported eslewhere - why not? |
Pastiche423 |
Jan-08-09 10:52 PM |
#112 |

u.s. public largely being kept in the blind |
elleng |
Jan-08-09 11:01 PM |
#113 |

Congress Doesn't Represent US Citizens |
fascisthunter |
Jan-08-09 07:05 PM |
#97 |

They don't care what we think |
Hardhead |
Jan-08-09 07:36 PM |
#104 |

Conyers is against Gupta but apparently voted for this? |
anonymous171 |
Jan-08-09 07:45 PM |
#105 |
 
This is the Senate |
Hardhead |
Jan-08-09 07:54 PM |
#106 |

My bad. |
anonymous171 |
Jan-08-09 07:56 PM |
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Jan-08-09 08:22 PM |
#108 |

ugh...you stay classy, congress.... |
Blue_Tires |
Jan-09-09 08:17 AM |
#126 |

Besides making radical Muslims even more likely to attack us, what is this non-binding |
No Elephants |
Jan-09-09 09:04 AM |
#129 |
 
Give right wing Jews and neo-con's a warm and fuzzy. |
harun |
Jan-09-09 11:52 AM |
#132 |

Great. That's really worth provoking people who enjoy killing us and/or raising the price of oil on |
No Elephants |
Jan-09-09 01:05 PM |
#134 |

the problem with Obama's promises of change is that . . . |
OneBlueSky |
Jan-09-09 11:50 AM |
#131 |

CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE TODAY! Then email your Senators and tell them you are angry. |
No Elephants |
Jan-09-09 01:17 PM |
#138 |

Change you can believe in! nt |
Marie26 |
Jan-09-09 03:10 PM |
#140 |

Thus declaring war on the rest of the world |
TOJ |
Jan-09-09 07:25 PM |
#147 |

But! But! |
burrowowl |
Jan-09-09 11:07 PM |
#152 |

well, they do have an army, navy, airforce and nukes |
okiru109 |
Jan-09-09 11:11 PM |
#154 |

My message to my Congressman, Andre Carson |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-09-09 11:38 PM |
#155 |

WTF is all I can say |
JCMach1 |
Jan-10-09 11:12 AM |
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bobd0
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Thu Jan-08-09 12:31 PM
Response to Original message |
subsuelo
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #1 |
| 24. honestly AIPAC has little to do with it |
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If the corporate fascist elite in the United States wanted a different outcome, they could have it, and AIPAC would be unable to stop it.
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bstender
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #24 |
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sounds like someone's had a little too much Chomsky in their diet.
and what exactly does the _corporate_fascist_elite_ gain from this little bloodbath?
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Trillo
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Thu Jan-08-09 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #48 |
| 68. Stopping the oil price decline. n/t |
bstender
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Thu Jan-08-09 03:58 PM
Response to Reply #68 |
| 74. nice of Israel to help out! |
elleng
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Thu Jan-08-09 11:13 PM
Response to Reply #48 |
stephinrome
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #24 |
| 64. well, they certainly seem to be grateful... |
Doctor_J
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Thu Jan-08-09 07:24 PM
Original message |
| AIPAC had nothing to do with this? |
LeftishBrit
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Sat Jan-10-09 11:28 AM
Response to Reply #24 |
| 162. While I would use different terminology... |
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I think you are right here. The American Right has a lot more influence over foreign policy than any 'furriners' or their friends. And America influences Israel far more than the other way around. America is bigger *and* holds the purse strings.
And in response to your critics, I would much rather have an overdose of Chomsky than an overdose of Walt and Mearsheimer, or worse, an overdose of Ron Paul.
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bstender
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Thu Jan-08-09 12:33 PM
Response to Original message |
subsuelo
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #2 |
| 25. as victims of the worst terror groups in the world? |
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:15 PM
Response to Reply #25 |
proud progressive
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:53 PM
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| 41. there you go. in fact, let's add cuba, mexico, half of so amer, france, africa, middle east,..... |
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indonesia, spain, and anyone in the rest of the world who somehow believe that we, and by extension, israel, DO NOT OWN THE FUCKING WORLD!
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Thu Jan-08-09 03:47 PM
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goforit
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Thu Jan-08-09 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #2 |
| 92. Have a Superiority Complex,eh? |
fascisthunter
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Thu Jan-08-09 07:02 PM
Response to Reply #2 |
bstender
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Thu Jan-08-09 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #95 |
| 109. sarcasm, yes. i posted that already |
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answering the first response, but it got deleted without explanation. i can't for the life of me imagine what i said that was objectionable. i try to be fair minded and avoid hyperbole, and i typed like two sentences. but obviously the moderator disagreed.
i thought the sarcasm was obvious, but i sometimes forget how text can be a tricky medium for dry humor.
SARCASM for sure :/
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fascisthunter
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Sat Jan-10-09 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #109 |
| 158. lol... I at first thought you were serious |
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then, I read another post of yours down thread and realized I had better replace my response to your sarcasm with something else....
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bstender
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Sat Jan-10-09 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #158 |
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i failed to imagine that there was any chance that it would not be seen as sarcasm until i saw that response that took it seriously. it's hard to remember that there are people who actually believe that some (other) human beings are 'untermenschen', but clearly they're out there. many apologies! how does one evoke the dripping sarcasm thingy? i'm from the days of 2400 baud. oh looky there, smilies lookup table, how convenient
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Barack_America
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Thu Jan-08-09 12:33 PM
Response to Original message |
| 3. So the Senate approves of attacks on UN convoys... |
subsuelo
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #3 |
| 27. Yes, a big thumbs up to bombing children and to terrorism, generally |
elleng
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Thu Jan-08-09 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #3 |
| 115. And the House tomorrow. |
No Elephants
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Fri Jan-09-09 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #115 |
| 135. CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE TODAY. |
KansDem
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Thu Jan-08-09 12:34 PM
Response to Original message |
| 4. It appears the "Bush Doctrine" will be with us for a little while longer... |
subsuelo
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #4 |
| 37. Obama better not be going along with this shit, once he gets in there |
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If Obama starts praising Israel's terrorism and defending their war crimes, I am done with the Democratic Party.
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ellisonz
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Fri Jan-09-09 05:55 AM
Response to Reply #37 |
Fumesucker
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Fri Jan-09-09 08:30 AM
Response to Reply #119 |
| 127. Peace will come when Israelis love their children more than they covet Palestinian land.. |
ellisonz
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Fri Jan-09-09 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #127 |
| 141. Which is way Hamas is dedicated to the extermination of the "Zionist entity" |
hack89
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Fri Jan-09-09 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #127 |
| 153. Or when Hamas loves their children more than they covet Israeli land. nt |
fascisthunter
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Sat Jan-10-09 09:54 AM
Response to Reply #127 |
spotbird
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Fri Jan-09-09 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #37 |
| 130. His Secretary of State supports it |
Window
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Fri Jan-09-09 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #37 |
| 136. "Obama better not..." |
totodeinhere
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Fri Jan-09-09 11:40 PM
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| 156. Good riddance to you. n/t |
bowens43
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Thu Jan-08-09 12:35 PM
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rateyes
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Thu Jan-08-09 12:37 PM
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Fuck Reid, Pelosi, and the rest of the bastards on Capitol Hill. Not ONE Senator with the guts to vote against a piece of shit resolution like that?? How about a resolution of support for the innocent children of Gaza?? When is that coming??
I won't hold my breath.
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Thu Jan-08-09 12:43 PM
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| 7. No doubt. I think they should also pass a measure of support for Bush's handling of Katrina. |
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After all, he denied food, shelter and medical care to civilians, just as Israel is doing to the Palestinians in Gaza.
If the Senate is so damned pleased with Israel's moral right in this issue, why not stand up and praise Bush as well?
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rateyes
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:31 PM
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| 31. It would be only fair, wouldn't it?? |
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:00 PM
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| 46. What about a resolution of support for the innocent old folks in the old-age facility? |
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Six Katyushas Strike Northern Israel, IDF RetaliatesAt least four Katyusha rockets hit northwestern Israel, in the area of the coastal city of Nahariya, around 7:35 a.m. Thursday morning. One of the missiles hit the roof of an old age facility in Nahariya. Two elderly people from the old-age facility are being treated in Nahariya Hospital for light shrapnel wounds in the legs, and four others are being treated for shock. The Home Front Command has ordered residents to enter shelters. Hizbullah has smuggled in from Syria three times more rockets than it possessed before the Second Lebanon War two years ago. It has not taken responsibility for the rocket attacks, which may have been initiated by another terrorist group with the approval of Hizbullah. Israeli media reported that the rockets were older models and probably were fired bya small terrorist group.
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:19 PM
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rateyes
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Thu Jan-08-09 05:17 PM
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| 83. How about a resolution supporting all the innocents |
thewiseguy
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Thu Jan-08-09 12:44 PM
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| 8. Take that "vigorous support" and shove it up your ass Harry |
Jefferson23
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Thu Jan-08-09 12:46 PM
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| 9. I am truly heartbroken at this and sickened by them beyond words. |
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I e-mail them and it does no good, they don't give a damn at all. I don't honestly know how they sleep at night.
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elleng
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Thu Jan-08-09 11:24 PM
Response to Reply #9 |
| 117. Have you written your Senators and Rep? |
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I'm working on it.
Marches planned in DC and maybe NYC, but 'we' should be confronting 'our' members, imo.
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Howardx
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Thu Jan-08-09 12:50 PM
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| 10. dance for your pennies monkey congress n/t |
Freddie Stubbs
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #10 |
| 57. Senators like Ted Kennedy do not need 'pennies' |
Marrah_G
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Thu Jan-08-09 03:32 PM
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As much as I love my senators, I think they are incredibly, incredibly wrong on this.
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Freddie Stubbs
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Thu Jan-08-09 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #66 |
| 67. Perhaps they actually thin supporting this resolution is the right thing to do |
subsuelo
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Thu Jan-08-09 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #67 |
| 78. supporting War on Children is not the right thing to do. |
Freddie Stubbs
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Thu Jan-08-09 05:14 PM
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| 82. Perhaps they view this a defensive war rather than a "War on Children" |
subsuelo
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Thu Jan-08-09 06:50 PM
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| 90. No sane person paying the slightest bit of attention views it as a "defensive war" |
Freddie Stubbs
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Thu Jan-08-09 06:53 PM
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| 91. Does that mean the Ted kennedy is insane? |
subsuelo
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Thu Jan-08-09 07:13 PM
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Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 07:14 PM by subsuelo
... about anyone supporting Israel's terrorist war crimes
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elleng
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Thu Jan-08-09 11:27 PM
Response to Reply #67 |
| 118. The 'resolution' is very careful not to say anything untoward; |
Marrah_G
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Fri Jan-09-09 07:59 AM
Response to Reply #67 |
| 125. And if they do, then I am very disappointed in them |
SOS
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Thu Jan-08-09 07:24 PM
Response to Reply #57 |
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Thu Jan-08-09 12:56 PM
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Thu Jan-08-09 06:56 PM
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nancyr
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Thu Jan-08-09 12:56 PM
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If they manage it correctly they can get us mired down before Bush leaves. Still time left for WW3!
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ShadesOfGrey
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Thu Jan-08-09 12:57 PM
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| 13. I am so ashamed of my country right now... |
balantz
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:00 PM
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| 14. Partners in terrorist war crimes n/t |
subsuelo
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:27 PM
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AlbertCat
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:03 PM
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| 15. The Greatest Foreign Policy Blunder of the 20th century... |
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Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 01:05 PM by AlbertCat
....the creation of Israel....will still be the gift that keeps on giving as it has since 1949.
I wonder what would have happened if back then they had decided to make Texas a Jewish State?
We all know they really aren't fighting over religion (they're fighting over the only decent oasis in the stinking desert), but religion determines the flavor of the conflict. Remember, Palestinians are Semites too!
If Bush had really wanted to establish a Jeffersonian Democracy in the Middle East, why didn't he ask our friends to do it before trying to force our enemies at gun point to do so? Why didn't he ask Israel or Saudi Arabia to change?
I'm so sick of the wretched Middle East, I can't stand it!
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marshall
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Thu Jan-08-09 04:34 PM
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| 80. People weren't thinking straight after WWII |
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After what has come to be known as the Holocaust, people acted with their hearts and not their brains and rewarded the remnants of the "chosen people" with some land in the desert.
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mitchum
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Thu Jan-08-09 11:19 PM
Response to Reply #80 |
| 116. In all fairness, the guilt gift should have been along the banks of the Rhine |
ellisonz
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Fri Jan-09-09 06:12 AM
Response to Reply #116 |
| 122. Because the Germans were just so tolerant! |
mitchum
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Fri Jan-09-09 03:09 PM
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| 139. I don't believe the Germans were in very much of a position... |
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to make make further demands or further exert their intolerance. They lost the war, y'know...
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ellisonz
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Fri Jan-09-09 04:50 PM
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| 142. So you would have supported the forcible removal of German familys? |
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Yeah, that's a path to peace!
Your argument is counter-factual and deprives Jews of any agency...
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mitchum
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Fri Jan-09-09 06:12 PM
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| 145. German Nazism was driven by a crazyass mythology and fanatic nationalism |
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Sound familiar?
Also, do you support the forcible removal of Palestinian families? Yeah, that's a path to peace!
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ellisonz
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Fri Jan-09-09 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #145 |
| 148. The history of Israel-Palestine conflict is a lot more complex than that... |
mitchum
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Fri Jan-09-09 10:41 PM
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| 150. That is true; cousins often fight... |
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but that doesn't mean I should finance any part of that bloody family squabble. Let their mythical skygod sort it out for them.
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ellisonz
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Fri Jan-09-09 06:02 AM
Response to Reply #80 |
| 121. That's like blaming the Slaves for Jim Crow... |
mitchum
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Fri Jan-09-09 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #121 |
| 151. No, that would be like giving the slaves...I dunno...Egypt...instead of Louisiana |
ellisonz
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Fri Jan-09-09 05:59 AM
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LeftishBrit
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Fri Jan-09-09 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #15 |
| 133. Yes, obviously, much worse than two fucking WORLD WARS!!! |
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 And a lot of states were created after the end of British and French colonialism, and not all of the decisions worked well. The Partition of India and Pakistan resulted in a LOT more violence, massive relocations, and deaths than anything to do with this I/P conflict.
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Turborama
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:05 PM
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Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 01:08 PM by Turborama
...but what did we just vote for?
I was ready to wait until the 20th in the hope that things might change, but I'm starting feel quite disillusioned right now...
I'm also beginning to think Rev. Wright was onto something.
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No Elephants
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Fri Jan-09-09 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #16 |
| 137. What did Wright say that was factually incorrect? |
Freddie Stubbs
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:06 PM
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| 17. Unanamous? That means Boxer, Feingold, Sanders, and Kerry supported this |
rateyes
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #17 |
| 33. Not to mention Biden and Clinton. nt |
The Stranger
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:32 PM
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| 34. It means that every single one of them is wrong. |
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I am surprised Russ Feingold supported this, as he voted against the Iraq War Resolution and has taken a stand in the past.
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NikolaC
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #34 |
| 42. It's Just Palestinian Lives, |
ellisonz
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Fri Jan-09-09 06:20 AM
Response to Reply #34 |
| 123. Feingold Statement on Gaza |
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Wednesday, January 7, 2009 "No country should tolerate terrorism and Israel has every right to protect its citizens from Hamas missile attacks. But I am concerned that the military operations in Gaza could backfire and lead to more violence. In addition, every effort must be made to allow innocent civilians in Gaza to receive humanitarian assistance. I hope a ceasefire can be reached as soon as possible so that serious progress can be made toward a two-state solution. To achieve that, there must be sustained diplomatic efforts including the appointment of a high-level U.S. official to work on this issue every day until a resolution can be reached.” http://feingold.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=306409
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karynnj
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Thu Jan-08-09 06:59 PM
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| 94. It likely means it was a voice vote |
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brought up on the Senate floor by the leadership with no objection made by any of the people then on the floor - it may well be that the vast majority of the Senators were not even there.
(there are no votes this session listed in Thomas - there is a Vitter resolution backing Israel in Thomas introduced on the 1/6, that was referred to the SFRC - which has not yet met this year - unless I missed something. )
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Mudoria
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:09 PM
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| 18. I'll send a note of thanks to my Senators n/t |
Wizard777
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:13 PM
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| 19. Nobody ever notices the conflict until Palestine starts shooting back. |
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I hate to say it. But if you change the word Liberal to Israel. Ann Coulter is absolutely right. (Please don't shoot or ban me!) They are agressors that always play the victim. They bomb Gaza and play victim when Hamas starts firing rockets in defense.
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subsuelo
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:33 PM
Response to Reply #19 |
| 35. I see your point, but.... don't go there |
Wizard777
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #35 |
| 53. It isn't any fun writing it either. |
specimenfred1984
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:16 PM
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| 20. Ka-ching, country with torture camps backs civilian killing for $$$$$ |
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Now let's all talk about how great the South is, how we should all just offer war criminals redemption, how we should all "reach across the isle". BARF.
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Gregorian
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:22 PM
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| 21. The Senate is corrupt. |
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And this is what is wrong with America. A pathetically uneducated voter population has enabled a group of evil men to rule over the country.
Sorry if that's incorrect, but it's my simplistic observation. A group of wealthy men is not what we want in office. They don't serve well.
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RCinBrooklyn
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:22 PM
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| 22. And so, the USA is now sucked into the conflict. Coming up next: More Bombings. |
SOS
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:23 PM
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| 23. Senate unanimously supports the killing of 218 Gazan children |
eagertolearn
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:25 PM
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| 26. This makes me so sick. I used to feel sorry for the people of |
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Israel but now i just feel disgust. I do not want another dollar (or another gun) to go over there from our taxes. I'm sorry but "Israel needs to protect itself"???? I don't like the idea of Hamas taking radical measures in the name of "helping" the Palestinians but Israel has been making it hard for the Palestinians to live in the small piece of land they have left and those in Gaza are fighting for their basic needs to live. This is why Hamas was able to take over. We should only give countries help if they are willing to negotiate for peace and come to an understanding over the land. Helping Israel is just as bad as helping Iraq. We just want a foot hold over there! This is only going to cause another problem with people hating the Jews and we've come to far for that! This could end up causing another Holocaust. This makes me just feel so sick to my stomach. How could are Senate do this? The Oregon senators better not of voted for this! Anyone have a list of who didn't support it?
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rateyes
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:34 PM
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| 36. The vote was unanimous. |
stranger81
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Thu Jan-08-09 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #36 |
| 89. there's not even ONE person of conscience on our side of the aisle? |
eagertolearn
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Thu Jan-08-09 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #36 |
| 110. Sorry I read that wrong. n/a |
mimitabby
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:27 PM
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cali
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:30 PM
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| 30. Shameful. Just shameful. |
subsuelo
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:31 PM
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| 32. My question - how can *Democrats* support this? |
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Democrats should know better.
Democrats should support human rights, not terrorism.
Democrats should have a conscience, or at least some semblance of empathy for victims of terrorist war crimes.
Instead, we have pathetic war-mongering cowards representing this party.
God dammit it's TIME FOR CHANGE. But WHEN????????
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byeya
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #32 |
| 38. Time to Change to, or form, a new party if |
Freddie Stubbs
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:00 PM
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| 47. I'm not sure home many votes Hamas or Hezbollah would get in most swing districts |
Freddie Stubbs
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:59 PM
Response to Reply #32 |
| 45. It is the official policy of the Democratic Party to support Israel |
subsuelo
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #45 |
| 54. you left out the word 'blindly'. |
SOS
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:35 PM
Response to Reply #45 |
| 61. Only 31% of Democrats support the Israeli attack on Gaza |
ShadesOfGrey
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Thu Jan-08-09 04:08 PM
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| 75. Israel is out of control. It's time to drop that policy. nt |
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Thu Jan-08-09 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #32 |
| 102. The Dems get lots of money from AIPAC too |
totodeinhere
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Fri Jan-09-09 11:47 PM
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| 157. "Democrats" have always supported the State of Israel. |
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There has been great bipartisan support for Israel ever since Democratic President Harry Truman helped to form Israel. Every Dem president since then has followed suit.
But that's not good enough for some radicals who wish to destroy the Democratic Party by abandoning Israel and standing by and watching while the enemies of Israel drive her into the sea.
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McCamy Taylor
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:44 PM
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| 39. Fuck the US Senate and the House, too. |
NikolaC
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:53 PM
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 What about the children, civilians and UN workers? This is beyond disgusting and sick. I love how they just voted to support mass murder. Twisted, self centered, ignorant, complicit and complacent idiots  ! This is sure to go a long way towards repairing our reputation around the world  .
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Libertas1776
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:57 PM
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And then a few years down the road, or hell, even sooner we get attacked again by terrorists. A terrorist no doubt influenced by America's indifference to Palestine's plight and absolute blind support of Israel. There are plenty of orphaned children in Gaza right now who are filled with anger and ready to be indoctrinated. And then these fuckers in Congress wonder why did we get attacked? Its because they hate us for our freedom, they hate us for our freedom No! you shit for brains' its because of your fucking racist indifference to the killing of "brown" people and your policy of shoving your collective head up Israel's ass. Nuff said.
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robcon
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Thu Jan-08-09 01:58 PM
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Recognizing this is a defensive move by Israel against Palestinian rockets is the right thing to do.
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ShadesOfGrey
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #44 |
| 50. So what if they kill hundreds of children and innocents... |
ellisonz
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Fri Jan-09-09 06:25 AM
Response to Reply #50 |
| 124. They're getting way more than one terrorist... |
ShadesOfGrey
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Fri Jan-09-09 08:44 AM
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| 128. ... and the babies are future terrorists so it's no biggie, right? nt |
ellisonz
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Fri Jan-09-09 04:53 PM
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| 143. It's not like Hamas goes to great lengths to protect the civilian population... |
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...they started this shit. Every civilian death is a tragedy.
How about you go strap some explosives to your chest and detonate yourself in an Israeli cafe? No?
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ShadesOfGrey
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Fri Jan-09-09 06:38 PM
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| 146. Wow! I should kill myself and innocent Israelis because ??? |
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Sorry, I care about ALL innocent people. The Israeli government not so much. I use to hold them to a higher standard than Hamas. How foolish of me.
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ellisonz
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Fri Jan-09-09 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #146 |
| 149. That's what you're defending! |
bstender
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #44 |
| 51. and here is the proof |
ShadesOfGrey
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:11 PM
Response to Reply #51 |
| 55. Thanks! Bookmarking that page. nt |
eagertolearn
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #51 |
| 63. Thank-you for sharing that. we have to see this so this can eventually stop! |
Hugabear
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Thu Jan-08-09 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #51 |
| 86. Those damned dirty Palestinians! The horror of those pics! |
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Yes, I can see clearly why Israel is justified in "defending" itself from those rockets! Gotta kill every single one of those Palestinian bastards! Why, those Hamas rockets are capable of inflicting hundreds of dollars worth of damage!
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mbperrin
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Thu Jan-08-09 07:36 PM
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| 103. Thank you! I have asked many war apologists on these boards |
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to name even one person killed by those rockets, and all I have ever gotten is silence.
Now I see why. These really are somewhat overgrown nuisance hobby rockets....
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fascisthunter
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Sat Jan-10-09 09:59 AM
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The Stranger
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Thu Jan-08-09 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #44 |
| 70. Did you forget the sarcasm indicator? |
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Thu Jan-08-09 03:49 PM
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stranger81
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Thu Jan-08-09 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #44 |
| 88. There's nothing "defensive" about what's going on in Gaza. . . . . |
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it's pretty fucking offensive, IMHO.
This latest move by Senate Dems is, frankly, disgusting and not worthy of our party. And I don't care what generalities our party platform might contain.
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Barack_America
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Thu Jan-08-09 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #44 |
| 96. Yes. Thank you, Senate, for supporting the killing of 257 innocent children. |
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Children represent 1/3 of the dead Palestinians thus far (over 750 total).
14 Israelis have died, mostly soldiers.
Defensive, my ass.
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Romulox
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:02 PM
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| 49. But "the votes aren't there" for a Resolution in support of American working people! |
peace13
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:23 PM
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These people are spineless wimps and need to get on the next plane to Gaza. We have more chicken *hit politicians ordering up bombs and war for others than is imaginable. Let them think what they want to but why was a formal resolution of this nature needed. Obama better have a huge set of balls pinned on on january 20th because this is not a direction this county needs to be going in !
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SOS
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:39 PM
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Our economy will be destroyed in 2009 because the Congress is in the pocket of Wall Street. They support whoever will grease them and keep them safe in their seat.
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Irishonly
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:06 PM
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High Plains
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Thu Jan-08-09 02:18 PM
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| 58. All hail the Single Unified Capitalist War Party! |
slipslidingaway
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Thu Jan-08-09 03:02 PM
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| 65. Well this is interesting, does anyone want to make some calls... |
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Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 03:02 PM by slipslidingaway
the offices of Biden and Sanders say there has not been a vote yet, Lautenberg's office says the vote is scheduled for later on today, the Bloomberg article says there was a unanimous vote in favor of the resolution.  posted here, but full post is above http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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slipslidingaway
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Thu Jan-08-09 03:44 PM
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| 69. Vote taken already per Reid's office S.Res. 10 - sorry for any |
Zhade
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Thu Jan-08-09 03:46 PM
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| 71. Disgraceful partisanship. |
Turborama
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Thu Jan-08-09 04:17 PM
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| 76. Why is the U.S. so beholden to Israel...? |
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Also, why does AIPAC seem to have such a stranglehold on America's political leaders?
Israel is a very expensive friend. Expensive in more ways than simply the billions of dollars and military hardware that just get given away to her every year. As we all know, in many (if not most) countries around the world, Israel is seen as America's kid brother and the US will stand behind them no matter what they do.
Why?
I have been trying to figure it out for sometime now but I can't seem to come up with a conclusive answer.
Is it really just simply having a 'friend in the Middle East'?
Is Israel essentially an American military foothold in the region?
Is it a kind of continued guilt for not stopping the holocaust?
Is it an embedded Judeo-Christian belief in bible prophecies?
Is it to ensure votes from the Jewish Americans during general elections?
Is it some of the above combined?
Is it all of the above combined?
If it's some or all of the above but something is missing, what else could it be?
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ShadesOfGrey
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Thu Jan-08-09 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #76 |
| 81. When you get an answer... |
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please let me know too. Something is seriously wrong here! How can ANYONE turn a blind eye on the humanitarian crisis in Gaza? What the hell is more important human lives?
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bstender
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Thu Jan-08-09 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #76 |
| 85. here is the most comprehensive scholarly analysis of that complex question |
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the very carefully worded scholarly analysis by profs. mearsheimer and walt published by the JFKennedy school of govt. at Harvard; "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy" also expanded into a best selling book by the same name: http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/rw...
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LeftishBrit
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Fri Jan-09-09 05:09 PM
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| 144. Right now, the American government uses Israel. |
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They are allies - or pawns - in the fight against the Muslim world in general and Iran in particular.
Britain plays a similar role in a somewhat different context.
Not that Hamas aren't absolutely disgusting, but the American politicians would do better to press both sides for peace, than to egg one side on.
I hope Obama will encourage real peacemaking.
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Junkdrawer
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Thu Jan-08-09 04:29 PM
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| 77. For every Gazan killed in this invasion, 1,000+ Iraqis were killed by the US invasion... |
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True, our "action" took 5 1/2 years and had the help of a Sunni/Shiite civil war, but to think that our Congress could, with a straight face, condemn Israel's actions is ludicrous.
Our Moral Authority, if we ever had it, is dead.
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SOS
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Thu Jan-08-09 07:08 PM
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