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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-25-08 01:12 AM
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Clinton Helping Clinton Retire Debt
Source: ABC News

Sen. Hillary Clinton's in-the-red campaign committee has found an innovative way to pay down a slice of its debt -- and is getting help from President Clinton's foundation, among other groups, in making it happen.

The William J. Clinton Foundation this week became the latest outside group to buy access to the vast e-mail list compiled by the New York senator's campaign. Political insiders believe the list is second only to President-elect Barack Obama's in its size and efficiency in reaching potential donors.

Clinton political aides and officials with the foundation confirm that the foundation paid the campaign committee to send a fundraising solicitation Monday. In the e-mail to HillaryClinton.com users, Chelsea Clinton asks for year-end gifts to the

Aides declined to specify what the foundation paid the campaign committee for the list; the figure won't have to be reported publicly until next month. They said outside vendors were consulted to set a "fair market" price for the Clinton Foundation to rent the list, in keeping with federal law.

Since there's little precedent for a national political figures selling access to their lists, estimates of what such an e-mail list would cost vary wildly, and would depend in part on whether a group is trying to reach a full list or targeted segments.


Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6524465&page=1
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   Good.  Jim Sagle   Dec-25-08 01:16 AM   #1 
   We will find out soon enough how much the foundation paid the campaign.  dkf   Dec-25-08 02:25 AM   #2 
   It's the Clinton way...  Baby Snooks   Dec-25-08 07:09 AM   #4 
   That Saudi Arabian money's not ginna spend itself!  marshall   Dec-25-08 12:39 PM   #15 
   The Obama campaign was left with a lot of money, I thought  question everything   Dec-25-08 02:57 AM   #3 
   He already has....  Baby Snooks   Dec-25-08 07:13 AM   #5 
   Wonder if anyone will block her appointment, considering his donor list.  polichick   Dec-25-08 07:32 AM   #6 
      Of course not...  Baby Snooks   Dec-25-08 07:43 AM   #7 
   It's Illegal, For One Thing  Demeter   Dec-26-08 03:18 PM   #18 
   One hand washes the other.  ShortnFiery   Dec-25-08 07:44 AM   #8 
   All that matters....  Baby Snooks   Dec-25-08 07:49 AM   #9 
      True, it's also my understanding that Bill Clinton has at least 15 million squirreled away  ShortnFiery   Dec-25-08 07:54 AM   #10 
         Shameless  Baby Snooks   Dec-25-08 08:42 AM   #11 
         The nut never falls far  saigon68   Dec-25-08 08:57 AM   #12 
   It's nice to know  notesdev   Dec-25-08 10:00 AM   #13 
   Why should they?  Baby Snooks   Dec-25-08 10:56 AM   #14 
   This thread ain't nuthin' but shit.  Jim Sagle   Dec-25-08 07:00 PM   #16 
   Is this Kosher?  TEmperorHasNoClothes   Dec-25-08 07:06 PM   #17 
 
Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-25-08 01:16 AM
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1. Good.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-25-08 02:25 AM
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2. We will find out soon enough how much the foundation paid the campaign.
Sounds awfully cozy though, especially since the foundation can get donations from people the campaign can't.

I imagine that will be a tidy loophole someone can take advantage of in the future.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-25-08 07:09 AM
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4. It's the Clinton way...
Or the Bush way. The Clinton way is the Bush way. Set something up for this, then use it for that. It probably violates the law, but what the hell, who in this country respects the law anymore?

And Caroline Kennedy has refused to make finanical disclosure UNTIL she's appointed? And then won't release a tax return? The Princess of Camelot doesn't want us to know how much the King and Queen of Camelot left her? Some can pretty well estimate. And it's much more than the $100 million estimate by the NY Times.

Welcome to the new Democratic Party. Which isn't the Democratic Party at all. Merry Christmas they all say as they shoot the bird at us along with the Republicans.

So many terms. Oligarchy. Plutocracy. Dominionism. Republicratic. Bottom line is the only Democrats and Republicans in this country are the fools who believe there are Democrats and Republicans on the ballots.

Merry Christmas to the Clintons. Hope they realize some remember the bill he signed that deregulated Wall Street. And have no Christmas this year because of it. And may not have a home after New Year's Eve.

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marshall (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-25-08 12:39 PM
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15. That Saudi Arabian money's not ginna spend itself!
Really this is what should have happened in the beginning. I've lost count of all the emails I have gotten from Chelsea, Dorothy, Bill, Hillary, and the rest of the gang hitting me up for more and more money.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-25-08 02:57 AM
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3. The Obama campaign was left with a lot of money, I thought
why can't he help her?

I sent a small donation to Obama shortly before the elections; should have sent it to Hillary, instead.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-25-08 07:13 AM
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5. He already has....
He appointed her Secretary of State and she has expanded the role of Secretary of State to include "economics" which translated means Bubba of Arabia is loading some extra bags for the camel for their caravan and their "Two for One Sale." Not everyone is stupid and less so when they saw the names on the donor list he finally disclosed. Next maybe someone should ask where the money has gone. And watch him hem and haw and say it's none of anyone's business. Which is what he said about the donor list. That it was none of aynyone's business.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-25-08 07:32 AM
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6. Wonder if anyone will block her appointment, considering his donor list.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-25-08 07:43 AM
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7. Of course not...
Quite a few in the Senate would love to be rid of her. And the Republicans will have to be careful since quite a few Republicans are on the list. Never bite the hand that feeds you.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Dec-26-08 03:18 PM
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18. It's Illegal, For One ThingUpdated at 6:24 AM
Obama can only donate the limit that any other citizen can donate.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-25-08 07:44 AM
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8. One hand washes the other.
Not classy but legal, I guess? :(
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-25-08 07:49 AM
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9. All that matters....
One of our infamous mayors in Houston many years ago was asked whether something was ethical. He replied that it wasn't a matter of whether something was ethical but whether something was legal. A Democrat. On his way to becoming a Republicrat.

That's actually the old ethos. "Is it legal?" The new ethos is simply "Can I get away with it?"
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-25-08 07:54 AM
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10. True, it's also my understanding that Bill Clinton has at least 15 million squirreled away
in Europe. He's made "a small fortune" jetting around with a Canadian Billionaire and giving speeches.

Why doesn't Bill Clinton, THE INDIVIDUAL, do a noble thing and PERSONALLY help pay off his wife's debts?

This is just shameful and the fact that Chelsea is part of his "illustrious" Foundation makes it "All in the Family."

Well, I guess Chelsea had to come back to the home business because things aren't too great at her Hedge fund. :thumbsdown:
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-25-08 08:42 AM
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11. Shameless
The Clintons are shameless and they are one of the reasons why we are a shameful nation. They have always, really, been available to the highest bidder. And three guesses who the highest bidder was.

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-25-08 08:57 AM
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12. The nut never falls far
from the tree
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-25-08 10:00 AM
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13. It's nice to know
that our current Senator and soon-to-be Secretary of State is so easily bribed through her husband, and not a single damned person in the entire government has the balls to say something about it.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-25-08 10:56 AM
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14. Why should they?
Edited on Thu Dec-25-08 10:59 AM by Baby Snooks
Why dump it on the Congress or anyone else for that matter when it should be dumped in the lap of the Democratic Party.

The Democratic Party placed the Clintons on the pedestals. As for her being bribed, well, that's part of the problem. "Hillary is so innocent. She doesn't see she's being bribed by that mean old Bill." That's what some will say. Particularly the feminists. Without realizing that by saying it they are saying Hillary doesn't have enough common sense to know she's being bribed. Any more than she had enough common sense NOT to excuse a philandering husband. Hillary is about as innocent as Lady Macbeth. In fact that is what some called her during the primary.

Do you really think Gloria Steinhem would have put up with him? Makes you wonder what Gloria Steinhem's "vested interest" in Hillary has been all these years.

As soon as CBS left after filming that 60 Minutes "I'm not Tammy Wynette standing by her man" interview, Hillary ran out the door along with Bill and was handing him the money he was stuffing down Gennifer Flowers' mouth to shut her up. Handing him the money while humming "Stand By Your Man......"

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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-25-08 07:00 PM
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16. This thread ain't nuthin' but shit.
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TEmperorHasNoClothes (356 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-25-08 07:06 PM
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17. Is this Kosher?
Something doesn't sound right. A tax exempt charity foundation asking for money for a political campaign's debt. Does that mean other non profits like churches, scouts etc. can collect money to retire their candidates debts? The Clintons have always stretched the boundaries of ethics as far as they go while still being technically not illegal. I wonder if this will be brought up in her confirmation hearings.
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