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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:12 PM
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Caroline Kennedy interested in NY Senate seat
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 05:15 PM by themartyred
Source: AP

WASHINGTON Caroline Kennedy has spoken to New York Gov. David Paterson about the Senate seat that will come open when Hillary Rodham Clinton becomes secretary of state, according to a person familiar with the conversation.

Kennedy reached out to the governor to discuss the Senate seat, according to the Democratic source, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the conversation was private. The source would not disclose the details of the conversation.

Kennedy is the daughter of President John F. Kennedy and a niece of brothers Edward and Robert. Robert Kennedy held the New York seat from 1965 until his assassination in 1968.

As a prominent member of the Kennedy clan, Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg is the kind of high-profile, historic figure who could overshadow many other New York politicians hoping to be Paterson's choice.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081205/ap_on_el_se/kennedy...



This is wonderful news! What an inspirational woman she is!

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:15 PM
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1. I dunno. I like Caroline and she is a bright accomplished woman but she
has no legislative or politcal experience and this certainly smacks of the dynasty thing I thought we were trying to get away from.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:25 PM
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9. Hey, I agree with you!
That hasn't happened in a while! :hi:

And Caroline is one of my top ten favorite people. But others have worked their whole lives in government and have earned their way into the Senate. Appointing Caroline is just not right.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:31 PM
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11. She's an attorney & she has written two books on civil liberties.
"In Our Defense: The Bill of Rights In Action" & "The Right to Privacy"

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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 07:55 PM
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37. In 2010 there will be an election. If New Yorkers share your concern they can vote her out.
Besides, you had no problem with dynasties when it was Hillary Clinton running.
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jrockford Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:48 PM
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39. Rather a Kennedy dynasty than a Bush or Clinton one. nt
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Sex Pistol Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 07:14 AM
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52. Well, I doubt she could do any worse than the present members of the Senate.
After all, the folks there right now are not exactly the brightest bulbs in the box.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:18 PM
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2. Teddy would probably love this.
"...Senator Kennedy from Massachusetts...Senator Kennedy from New York..." the roll call like the old days.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:18 PM
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3. So am I
AP?
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:20 PM
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4. First Hillary has to get around that constitutional thing.
I guess they are going to try to do it by rescinding the pay increase for the SoS office that she voted for.

We need to amend the constitution someday to get rid of that provision (you can't be appointed to a cabinet post that you just voted to increase the salary for while in Congress).

Jonathan Turley (who I respect on constitutional law) seemed to think that even rescinding the pay increase wouldn't do it for her. It's bound to come up in the confirmation process. And the constitution is quite clear on this one.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:22 PM
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5. Can she win two statewide elections in 4 ys?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:24 PM
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7. Who can challenge her?
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 05:24 PM by Jake3463
She's also a native NYer. She has more cover for being in that seat than the current occupant.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:38 PM
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12. Not sure. But I know Cuomo would be able to win those elections. And how would she fare
If Maloney, Lowey, or Velazquez challenged her in a Primary.

Would she beat Rudy in an election?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:54 PM
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16. Beat Rudy? Like a drum.
Rudy can't win in NY.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:23 PM
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21. I doubt they would challenge her
Edited on Fri Dec-05-08 06:24 PM by Jake3463
and if they did she'd still win. She'd have NY city as a native NYer. Upstate would only be difficult against Cuomo but if she took the time to campaign there as the incumbent she'd do pretty well.

Plus she'd have a huge money advantage based on her national name recognition and incumbency.

Beat Rudy in an election? Judging by Rudy's strength and campaigning ability outside of NY city in the Presidential election..like a drum. Rudy's image isn't what it was on 9/12/2002 anymore.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:43 PM
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27. Rudy Is The Most Overrated Pol In America
The man pissed off the entire city, but was widely praised for his handling of the aftermath of 9/11. Take away 9/11, and he's Bush.
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 07:20 PM
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34. And no one in Northern New York cares a bit about Rudy
..
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 05:58 AM
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51. Hillary ran. She wasn't appointed.
I still didn't like it. I like appointments even less.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:23 PM
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6. There is no denial yet from Caroline
So I think this might be happening :-)
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:25 PM
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8. Yea! Caroline is one smart and classy lady
:bounce:

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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:25 PM
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10. Um....Dynasty anyone?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:39 PM
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13. If she was Hillary's daughter, I'd agree
The fact that her mentor is Sen. Ted Kennedy doesn't bother me in the least. Coupled with the probability that we'd keep that seat, I could live with this appointment.

I like her and RFK Jr.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:55 PM
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17. Yeah, that dynasty meme only applies to Clintons.
Kennedys are exempt.

Especially to hypocrites.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:06 PM
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19. If she were Hillary's daughter taking that Senate seat, it would make sense
Doesn't matter what the last name. That's what a dynasty is.

Btw, are you calling me a hypocrite?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:44 PM
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28. SO true. nt
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #17
60. As you said.
The Clinton hate is absurd.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:35 PM
Response to Reply #10
22. It's been 40 years since her Uncle was in that seat
I think plenty of time has passed.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:56 PM
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31. She will have to face a vote like every temporary appointment - so a really short dynasty
and then an election.
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jetphixer Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:48 PM
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14. My prediction
If she takes this position she will also get her Dad's Job. As i am looking at this i'm thinking the huckster,non intelligence against Obamas intelligence in '12. Than the rewhat ever's will again try the Whitch Free lady from the tundra who will be totally outclassed by the Sen from NY,an She will slide in to her Dad's Position.... My Prediction an i believe this will happen.I Hope i live long enough to see this come to pass...
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 05:51 PM
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15. so a Senate seat is a political plum to be given away?
not a good thing to give it to her.... IMO
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:36 PM
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23. The question should be
1) Is she capable and support democratic policies.
2) Will she serve NY
3) Will she be elected in 2010.

I answer all questions with yes.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 07:36 PM
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35. Are you kidding me?
You obviously know nothing about the plumminess of politics. And it is a very plummy business.

And she would make a fantastic senator.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:33 PM
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38. A Political Plum?
I believe they call it an election, and the people of New York will decide if she gets the "plum" or not. Didn't she just work in the NY Education System doing something?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:02 PM
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18. My mom will be amused - She's been following Caroline since her birth
Caroline and I were born within a few weeks of each other.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:45 PM
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29. I used to see her and her mother and brother at the Newport Creamery in the 60s. nt
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 11:43 PM
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49. Newport Creamery was my first job. They had good
ice cream.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:13 PM
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20. Dynasty Schmeinasty
I watched this little girl standing at her mother's side when the horsedrawn caisson carrying her father's body passed.


This country has become more and more regressive - with the exception of civil rights progress - since then. The rightwingers have nearly destroyed the middle class, rolling back the gains of the New Deal. They STARTED that process by assassinating her dad (my opinion) and it would be only fitting that the seat vacated by the election of the modern-day RFK/JFK be occupied by her.

That is all.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 08:16 AM
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54. Camelot was a myth, people.
:(
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 11:01 AM
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56. bite me
that is all
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:39 PM
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24. That provision about pay is stupid; it limits the president from selecting
the person he/she wants, just because that individual voted for a tax increase for an office which he/she had no knowledge he/she would ever be appointed to at the time of the vote. It is detrimental to good government. The current situation is proof of that error. It has nothing to do with a particular person, but rather with good government.
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:39 PM
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25. You're cracking me up -- everyone's all p.o.'ed about Obama tapping "the same old faces" and here
comes a "new" voice -- someone with a experience in law and research and the "fringes" of government.

I just read a bunch of the above posts -- about choosing someone who's paid dues and headed up the ladder.
Are these the same voices who want 'change'?

I don't see the problem.

Another articulate, intelligent woman with an aptitude to lead.
What's not to like?

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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:41 PM
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26. a good stepping stone for the Presidency
so I fully expect to see Pres. Caroline Kennedy in office NLT 2016, after Pres. Obama is reelected.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 06:45 PM
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30. We could do a whole lot worse. nt
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 07:03 PM
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33. is that what the NY Senate seat is supposed to be? nt
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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 05:07 PM
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61. It seems to have helped Hillary get to the nomination
besides, compared to what we went during for the last 8 years, I'd be keeping all my options open.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 07:01 PM
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32. I am reading this thread incredulous - we have had actors
as senators and governors who were actors and one governor who ran the olympics and many senators who seem only to have knowledge of religion and a governor in alaska who knows nothing and people don't think she is a good choice

Her family has done so much good for this country and don't seem to be in it just for the money like the current occupant or the many others in the states like georgia who are not qualified at all

I would love to see her get this
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 07:40 PM
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36. I join you in your incredulosity
I begin to wonder what DU has become when I see threads like this.

What the hell is wrong with people?!

Caroline Kennedy has a top-notch mind, and a drive and passion for doing what is RIGHT for the country.

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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 09:57 PM
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44. And enough money that no one can buy her
(I know I'm cynical).

Makes me wish I still lived upstate so I could vote for her in 2010.

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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 05:27 PM
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63. That's a pretty strong factor in her favor.
She'll have to raise a little money for reelection but she won't have to spend millions to sell herself to the electorate like most other new pols.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 11:15 PM
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46. you're exactly right
I think she'd be a great choice for the position and she's a link between the old and the new and I think that we need that right now

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 09:04 AM
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55. Thank you, 28erl.
Well stated and absolutely correct.
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 05:13 PM
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62. Yes, no one batted an eye when Ahnuld supposedly got elected.
Edited on Sat Dec-06-08 05:13 PM by bottomtheweaver
Well nobody in the media at least. Anyway, Caroline is no Ahnuld, thanks be for that.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 08:55 PM
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40. Awesome. (nt)
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 09:06 PM
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41. It should be Caroline. I posted so last month.
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 09:07 PM
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42. I'm sure Caroline is bright and capable
But.....she has NO elective or governmental experience. There are at least 4 or 5 people I can think of in NY who have lots of experience and would be excellent selections. Picking her for her name is not enough.NY will be especially hard hit by this recession given its reliance on the financial sector. I mean no disrespect to Caroline, but the Senate is not a starting place for a political career.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 11:31 PM
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48. which people came to mind for you? nt
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 09:17 PM
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43. Why? n/t
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 10:00 PM
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45. She is Awesome
i adore her
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 11:31 PM
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47. As long as she doesn't use that godawful Neil Diamond tune in her election campaign in 2010.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 03:38 AM
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50. SWEEEEET CAROLINE! BAH-BAH-BAHHHH!
:)
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 04:09 PM
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57. Hear hear. nt
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 08:14 AM
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53. Would rather prefer RFK Junior.
Caroline doesn't have that wow factor.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 04:41 PM
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58. Bravo, Caroline!
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 04:51 PM
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59. Lousy picture, but this is good news.
Good news indeed, for us that is. Bad news for the crooks, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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Augdog20 Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-08 07:12 PM
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64. Dislike legacy senatorship idea? Vote in poll for NY senator replacement
Think that it smacks of aristocratic royalty for Caroline "no officeholder resume" Kennedy to become annointed senator?

Rep. Ackerman said that J. Lo. would make as good a senator.

Vote in my poll of your choice for NY senator replacement of Hillary Clinton:

http://bluesunited.blogspot.com
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