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Mumbai police to use truth serum on 'baby-faced' terrorist Azam Amir Kasab

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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-04-08 03:55 AM
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Mumbai police to use truth serum on 'baby-faced' terrorist Azam Amir Kasab
Source: Times Online

Indian police interrogators are preparing to administer a "truth serum" on the sole Islamic militant captured during last week's terror attacks on Mumbai to settle once and for all the question of where he is from.

The mystery of the man dubbed "the baby-faced gunman" has weighed heavily on India's relations with Pakistan as the nuclear-armed neighbours dispute each other's accounts of his origin.

Police interrogators in Mumbai told The Times that they have "verified" that Azam Amir Kasab, who was captured after a shoot-out in a Mumbai railway station on Wednesday night, is from Faridkot, a small village in Pakistan's impoverished south Punjab region. They say that the nine dead gunmen are also Pakistani.

Disputing that account, President Asif Ali Zardari of Pakistan told CNN last night: "We have not been given any tangible proof to say that he is definitely a Pakistani. I very much doubt it … that he is a Pakistani."

Read more: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/articl...
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   Oh, well then it's okay. As long as they announce it. "We're going to drug this guy now."  truthisfreedom   Dec-04-08 05:33 AM   #1 
   in a twisted way, I wish they would televise it. Why? We've been teetering on the brink of this for  cryingshame   Dec-04-08 10:13 AM   #8 
      Truth serum footage has been televised  paagal kutta   Dec-04-08 01:43 PM   #14 
   Who knows what they've already done to him?  tekisui   Dec-04-08 06:20 AM   #2 
   A crack team of Bush interrogators from Guantanamo Bay is on their way  machI   Dec-04-08 06:38 AM   #3 
   I could care less about that guy  jbane   Dec-04-08 08:32 AM   #4 
   I'm sorry, but one does not "give up rights...."  mike_c   Dec-04-08 09:39 AM   #5 
   Act like a human, you get rights.  jbane   Dec-04-08 10:57 AM   #11 
   The Constitution called...it said "Thanks for missing the point!"  bullwinkle428   Dec-04-08 09:59 AM   #7 
   Are you pro-torture, too?  PassingFair   Dec-04-08 10:56 AM   #10 
   their country  melm00se   Dec-04-08 09:43 AM   #6 
   If citizens have NO Rights  saigon68   Dec-04-08 10:39 AM   #9 
      according to the Supreme Court of India,  melm00se   Dec-04-08 10:58 AM   #12 
   Better to use truth serum then straight old torture  Jennicut   Dec-04-08 11:13 AM   #13 
 
truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-04-08 05:33 AM
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1. Oh, well then it's okay. As long as they announce it. "We're going to drug this guy now."
That makes it fine. Great. I'm thrilled.

In the day, you'd just drug the guy and find out what you needed to know, but now... NOOOOO... you have to TELL EVERYBODY you're going to BREAK OUT THE NEEDLE and the SODIUM PENTATHOL and DOSE the dude, just to be politically correct.

Why not televise it, India? World-wide?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-04-08 10:13 AM
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8. in a twisted way, I wish they would televise it. Why? We've been teetering on the brink of this for
a while now.

At least they're being honest.

Actually, I wouldn't be shocked to find footage leaked of this. I am pretty sure it'll be taped.

We got to see Saddam Hussein's last few minutes.
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Bhaisahab (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-04-08 01:43 PM
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14. Truth serum footage has been televised
in India before. The tapes were 'leaked' to a vernac news channel and boy was it trippy. The suspect was lying on a bed and looked stoned. A female doctor asked him questions; and a cop beside her was taking notes IIRC. How much of the truth came out? they never showed that.

But if the truth serum fails, the Indian police also specializes in pulling out nails with pliers.

Ouch.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-04-08 06:20 AM
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2. Who knows what they've already done to him?Updated at 3:19 PM
They keep saying that they got all this information from him. They are using his "confessions" to point to Pakistan. If they used 'harsh interrogation' techniques, torture, he would have told them that all of the attackers were from Mars, trained on Venus.
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machI (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-04-08 06:38 AM
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3. A crack team of Bush interrogators from Guantanamo Bay is on their way
The highly trained and skilled Republican investigators need a 'working vacation' from Camp X-Ray. A Government funded trip to India is just what the Doctor ordered.
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jbane (668 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-04-08 08:32 AM
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4. I could care less about that guy
All that needs to be heard from him is how did you do it and where are the rest of the creeps.
It's an ugly business folks, they give up all rights when they do stuff like what happened in Mumbai.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-04-08 09:39 AM
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5. I'm sorry, but one does not "give up rights...."
Human rights are the things we agree that everyone has, simply by benefit of existing. We can deny those rights to others, but as long as they're alive, they "own" them. Extending the list of circumstances in which someone "gives up" their rights is a very dangerous thing for us all, IMO.
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jbane (668 posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-04-08 10:57 AM
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11. Act like a human, you get rights.
Act like those people that killed innocents in Mumbai and to hell with you.
If someone had information about where a bomb was that was about to kill members
of my family I would do whatever necessary to get that info and deal with the
the terrorist later. Error should be on the side of protecting innocent lives.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-04-08 09:59 AM
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7. The Constitution called...it said "Thanks for missing the point!"
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-04-08 10:56 AM
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10. Are you pro-torture, too?
The real world is not like the TV series
"24" you know.

There are repercussions for torture.

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melm00se (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-04-08 09:43 AM
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6. their country
their laws...

If it's legal in that country they can use the technique.

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-04-08 10:39 AM
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9. If citizens have NO Rights
The government deserves to be overthrown
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melm00se (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-04-08 10:58 AM
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12. according to the Supreme Court of India,
which balanced the use of narco-analysis with Article 20 of the Constitution of India (similar to the 5th Amendment in the USA) found that it's use, as an investigatory tool but not as a method of obtaining an incriminatory statement, found that it's use is legal. case closed.

Sources:
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1146898
http://indiacode.nic.in/coiweb/fullact1.asp?tfnm=00%202...

I find your response hyperbolic, inflammatory and contrary to established rights detailed in the Constitution of India and the relevant Indian Supreme Court decision (all of which, as you can see, is easily accessible via google)

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec-04-08 11:13 AM
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13. Better to use truth serum then straight old torture
What does that stuff do, make you give up your inhibitions? better then water boarding him, etc Might actually get something more truthful. I think many lie under torture to make the torture stop.
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