White House suffers loss in e-mail case

[DogPoundPup]

Source: Yahoo

A federal judge has ruled against the Bush administration in a court battle over the White House's problem-plagued e-mail system.

U.S. District Judge Henry Kennedy says two private groups may pursue their case as they press the administration to recover millions of possibly missing electronic messages.

Kennedy rejected the government's request to throw out the lawsuits filed by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and the National Security Archive.

The Bush administration had argued that the courts did not have the power to order the White House to retrieve any missing e-mails.

NOTE: Complete article as posted here.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081110/ap_on_go_pr_wh/whit...

[librechik]

1. how embarrassed they all will be when they have to admit oops they destroyed them already.

sorry!

[Xipe Totec]

12. Don't worry, the Chinese have copies of the e-mails

They hack chimp long time!

[sofa king]

19. Yep, and the sociopaths within the GOP.

Of which there are many. The GOP will be beholden to those criminals long, long after we have repaired the damage of the Bush Administration.

Someone with a conscience and a crapload of money should just buy 'em now and make them all public.

[BlueEyedSon]

39. The NSA does too.

[apnu]

45. Now that would be funny. Bush: "Sorry they're gone" China: "No they aren't!" (nt)

[curiousdemo]

15. Here we go!!!

[demoborn47]

2. THAT'S GREAT....

but is anyone going to be held accountable? Will this ruling be enforced before they skip town? They've broken the law before and always seem to get away with it, I wish I could say this might be any different.

[renate]

22. welcome to DU!

[MadMaddie]

25. It will be different after our New President is sworn in.

They have to be careful about filing charges while the current * administration is still in office and he can pardon the suspects.

Welcome to Du!

[Barrett808]

3. Maybe China will be gracious enough to provide the "missing" emails

They did successfully hack the White House email system...

[Joe Chi Minh]

11. That would be funny.

[wordpix]

41. we can only hope

[The Doctor.]

4. PRA.

The truth of this administration's criminal conduct will become legendary.

They're AFRAID of the incoming Presidency.

That's not good.

I hope that BHO has 'put them at ease' about declassifying stuff.

[vinylsolution]

5. This is great news....

... All the information needed for impeachment of the Bush junta is contained within these 'missing' e-mails.

Let's get digging ASAP.

[gratuitous]

6. Format hard drive?

Yes No

Let's see: Take the rap for destroying evidence, or expose myself to culpability for treason, war crimes and crimes against humanity? What to do, what to do?

[aquart]

13. Expose yourself. We don't prosecute the big stuff.

Hadn't you noticed?

[RoccoR5955]

26. Formatting a hard drive does NOT destroy data!

It has to be rewritten with 1s and 0s at least 7 - 15 times before the data cannot be recovered. There are companies who do this for their livelihood.

[gratuitous]

28. I'm imagining some guy "just following orders"

And who knows? The White House might very well hire one or more of these companies to completely wipe hard drives.

[SpiralHawk]

43. "We can do that. Smirk." - Republicon Homelander Geeks

[Bushies gotta go]

7. Why do judges hate America so bad?

Geeze, seems like more and more of them are ruling against the shrub.... I guess it is not just us peons that are up in arms, ey?

[tanyev]

8. "problem-plagued e-mail system"

Oh, riiight. It's the system's fault, is it? What next, gremlins? Poltergeists?

Or HOW ABOUT deliberate, conscious, decisions made by the people running the e-mail system?????

[HopeHoops]

10. The shrub spilled his beer on the main e-mail server - oops!

[Bozvotros]

17. I noticed that right off too.

The press carrying his polluted water right to the end. Bush has stonewalled any and all attempts at getting inside information into his criminal junta. This has always included refusing, redacting or withholding information as they will. When the courts ordered the emails to be released they simply declared them lost, knowing that as always no one would hold them responsible. One more reason Lieberman has to go....along with others who refused to do their duty.

[ToolTex]

24. Did they hire Rose Mary Woods, Nixon's secretary, to design their email system?

[Veilex]

9. I cant say this enough...

e-mails are retrievable. It's VERY hard to eliminate all traces of an e-mail once it has been sent. Moreover, the same is true for hard-drives. Once information is stored, it is very hard to make it irretrievable.

In fact, there is an entire industry based on data recovery...for a reason.

[BumRushDaShow]

18. Unless you keep overwriting the backup tapes and never archive them.

[RoccoR5955]

27. You can always melt the harddrives into molten metal.

Or shred them into sand. THAT would erase them for sure.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

14. FORMAT

FORMAT
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[LaStrega]

16. "before they get carted off or destroyed as the current administration packs its bags to leave."

Pffffft. I'll bet they've already destroyed 'em.

But that 'leave' part ... YAY!

Jail the fuckers. IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH!

[smiley]

21. how bout'.....

imprison, imprison, imprison!!!

[LaStrega]

29. Even Better!!! n/t

[SpiralHawk]

20. "Thank you for upholding the rule of law, Judge K." - America

Ptoooey on republicon homelander OCCULT rule.

[Orsino]

23. Translation: White House still doesn't have to release e-mails.

Slow-walkin' it into next year.

[xochi]

30. Judge rules against White House in e-mail case

Source: The Seattle Times

Originally published Monday, November 10, 2008 at 3:21 PM

A federal judge on Monday ruled against the Bush administration in a court battle over the White House's problem-plagued e-mail system. With two-and-a-half months remaining before the Bush administration leaves office, U.S. District Judge Henry Kennedy ruled that two private groups may pursue their case as they press the government to recover millions of possibly missing electronic messages.

By PETE YOST
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON —

A federal judge on Monday ruled against the Bush administration in a court battle over the White House's problem-plagued e-mail system. With two-and-a-half months remaining before the Bush administration leaves office, U.S. District Judge Henry Kennedy ruled that two private groups may pursue their case as they press the government to recover millions of possibly missing electronic messages.

Kennedy rejected the government's request to throw out the lawsuits filed by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and the National Security Archive.

The government had argued that the courts did not have the authority to order the White House to retrieve any missing e-mails.

Kennedy, an appointee of President Clinton, said the two private groups seek precisely the relief outlined in the Federal Records Act and upheld in a previous case by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.

CREW and the National Security Archive want a court order directing the archivist of the United States to initiate action through the attorney general to restore deleted e-mails.

Read more: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/20083736...

[peacetalksforall]

31. Thank you for bringing us great news.

[xochi]

37. Thank you! Can you imagine what's in all those missing emails? n/t

[Hekate]

32. Slowly, but surely..... nt

[burrowowl]

33. I guess we will have to ask China

for the e-mails.

[Why Syzygy]

34. Yay! .. Keep digging! nt

[Judi Lynn]

35. This is outstanding news after so much trouble from the Bush calamity.

Salute to the two groups for not giving up the fight on this.

Looking forward to hearing they have complied wih the judge's ruling.

Welcome to D.U., xochi.

[xochi]

38. Why, thank you, Judi!

I hope we'll get to see what's in all those missing emails. It could be VERY implicating....

[newtothegame]

36. good n/t

[wordpix]

40. throw out the emails, throw out the lawsuits, throw out the laws---the BushCo legacy

[lonestarnot]

42. K & R

[helderheid]

44. K&R

[Supersedeas]

46. wonder what face that vile lady who testified to Congress is making right now